Andylusion
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# reply to #913.1Let's even pretend that every single person in government in 1776, was an avowed Unitarian, and John Adams wrote instead that the founding principals were not Christian, and were Unitarian instead.
What difference does that make to us today?
Then the actual lie that you are defending would easily be rejected and not exist today.
This is the lie. Don’t substitute your own words. Read it as it is so you can eventually come to understand why it is a lie and why it matters today.
It is a lie when 21st Century white evangelical Protestant Christians tell you that America was founded as a sin and salvation Christian NATION.
The actual shorter version slogan is a lie too:
America was founded as a Christian NATION.
Adams was not a sin and salvation believing Christian in 1787. Are you a sin and salvation believing Christian in 2020? It matters. How about a straight yes or no answer?
Thethe actual lie that you are defending would easily rejected
But I just posted clear undeniable truth, straight from the words of one of the founding fathers, that said their basis for designing this country, was Christian belief.
So... you seem to be splitting hairs on something that doesn't matter.
Adams was not a sin and salvation believing Christian in 1787.
Again, does not matter.
This is like saying I designed a car that is not based on the principals that were pioneered by Henry Ford, even though the fundamentals of my manufacturing, would be undeniably based Ford's mass manufacturing methods.
Just because I didn't base my production facility directly on the design documents of the Model T, doesn't mean that the core fundamental principals are not the same.
They are the same.
The Declaration of Independence says openly "rights endowed by our creator". Those rights, were the fundamental basis of the Constitution.
When the Declaration of Independence says "our creator" who are they referring to?
Even congregationalists, believed in the Christian G-d. They just didn't believe in the 3-in-1 Trinity, that included Jesus as the Son of G-d.
So there really is no way to look at the founding of this country, and not conclude that is was based on fundamental Christian ideology. At least not if you are honest.
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