The Koran confirms the Gospel but attacks the Trinity. The Trinity was introduced three centuries after Jesus. It has no basis in the Gospel and contradicts it.
You will not find anything in the Koran to contradict what I stated. The Sects believe these verses about freedom were ABROGATED by verse 9-29. But to show that they had to rely on sources OUTSIDE the Koran. Sources that secular historians deemed unreliable and too sectarian to trust. After all Sunnis have conflicting oral traditions than Shias do with each accusing the other of lies and fabrication. Yet they have the same Koran.
But in recent years, probably after 9-11, these oral sources found new audience in the West. Probably because its easier to attack Islam from them than the Koran.
Wanna bet I cannot contradict it?
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
Another person that thinks they know what I think, I love it. Where did I say anything about the Trinity? What I said was that, compared to the Quran, the Bible is well plotted and contains only minor errors. Anyone that has ever had to deal with a tech manual knows that they are almost always full of errors, and make statements that contradict reality, not to mention itself.
Regardless, the Quran is worse.
When you quote the Koran you must quote it the verses in its entirety or else you are trying to change its meaning for an agenda.
So you quoted verse 2.191, but only partially. Why is that?
Lets see what it ACTUALLY SAYS:
190. Fight in the cause of Allah
those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not
transgressors.
191. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out
from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque,
unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
192.
But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
193. And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah.
but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression
The Quran also says:
9.13.
Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is Allah Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe!
It also tells us:
As for such who do not fight you on account of faith, or drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to deal with them with equity, for God loves those who act equitably. God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of faith and drive you forth from your homelands or aid in driving you forth. As for those from among you who turn towards them for alliance, it is they who are wrongdoers. 60:8-9
It also clarifies further by stating:
Permission (to fight) is given to those against whom war is being wrongfully waged, and verily, God has indeed the power to aid them. Those who have been driven from their homelands in defiance of right for no other reason than their saying, �Our Lord is God.� 22:39-40
It is crystal clear that the Koran is talking about fighting when you are forced to fight because of your religious believes. Muhammad was seen by the Arab pagans as an apostate you defied the traditions of his people, tribe and family. He was seen as a denouncer of the gods of Mecca. We are given in the Koran many such scenarios that tells us about the tribalistic attitude of the semitic peoples who saw religion as a national identity to be followed by every member and who denounces that as a traitor to hiw own people.
We are told:
19.44-47. "O my father! serve not Satan: for Satan is a rebel against God Most Gracious. "O my father! I fear lest a Penalty afflict thee from God Most Gracious, so that thou become to Satan a friend." (The father) replied:
"Dost thou hate my gods, O Abraham? If thou forbear not, I will indeed stone thee: Now get away from me for a good long while!". Abraham said: "Peace be on thee: I will pray to my Lord for thy forgiveness: for He is to me Most Gracious.
Also concerning the prophets we are told:
36.16. They said: "Our Lord doth know that we have been sent on a mission to you: "And our duty is only to proclaim the clear Message." The (people) said:
"for us, we augur an evil omen from you: if ye desist not, we will certainly stone you. And a grievous punishment indeed will be inflicted on you by us."
We are told concerning Moses and the Pharoah:
26.27-29. (Pharaoh) said: "Truly your apostle who has been sent to you is a veritable madman!" (Moses) said: "Lord of the East and the West, and all between! if ye only had sense!" (Pharaoh) said:
"If thou dost put forward any god other than me, I will certainly put thee in prison!"
26.45-49. Then Moses threw his rod, when, behold, it straightway swallows up all the falsehoods which they fake! Then did the sorcerers fall down, prostrate in adoration, Saying: "We believe in the Lord of the Worlds, "The Lord of Moses and Aaron."
Said (Pharaoh): "Believe ye in Him before I give you permission? surely he is your leader, who has taught you sorcery! but soon shall ye know! Be sure I will cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides, and I will cause you all to die on the cross!"
Also concerning Noah and his people we are told:
26.115-116 "I am sent only to warn plainly in public." T
hey said: "If thou desist not, O Noah! thou shalt be stoned (to death)."
We also have the story of Jesus and the Pharisees in the Gospel. So there is an attitude that prevailed in semitic cultures. Where religion was seen as an identity, a national identity.
When people entered Islam in large numbers they brought that attitude with them. Failing to find it in the Koran they came up with hadiths to justify it. They saw that as something normal. The reality is Muhammad's followers were a few, the minority. He was forced into exile after persecution. When they saw him still continuing preaching they decided to kill him. Before that they tried to struck a bargain with him.
We are told about such bargains:
10.15-16. But when Our Clear Signs are rehearsed unto them,
those who rest not their hope on their meeting with Us, Say: "Bring us a reading other than this, or change this," Say: "It is not for me, of my own accord, to change it: I follow naught but what is revealed unto me: if I were to disobey my Lord, I should myself fear the penalty of a Great Day (to come)." Say: "If Allah had so willed, I should not have rehearsed it to you, nor would He have made it known to you. A whole life-time before this have I tarried amongst you: will ye not then understand?"
Another words, bring us ANOTHER KORAN. Another revelation. Another Islam.
You know, Sunni and Shia and Ahmedi and so on. You know, hadith, fiqh, sira and sufism and so on. You know.
Koran is peace!
