Zone1 Does Jesus Love Everyone? Does He Love Everyone EQUALLY?

[SweetSue92]

Christians slaughtered the Gnostics persecuted Jews and Muslims for centuries. So nice to have God of peace and love.

If someone is a terrible driver, do we go back and prosecute the driver's school where they learned to drive?

 

[Hafar1014]

If someone is a terrible driver, do we go back and prosecute the driver's school where they learned to drive?

Yes if they lied and were incompetent.

 

[SweetSue92]

Yes if they lied and were incompetent.

Who lied? The instructor? The driving tester? If we don't blame the instructors for how the students end up driving, why do you blame God when people sin?

 

[Hafar1014]

Who lied? The instructor? The driving tester? If we don't blame the instructors for how the students end up driving, why do you blame God when people sin?

Youre analogy doesnt work. I dont blame God for anything. Christianity is based on the lie of original sin and the threat of hell to force obedience. It was violent all in the name of Jesus a god of peace. Tell that to the Jews and Muslims they slaughtered

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Jesus did not love His disciples more than He loved the Pharisees?

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Did he sit and take meals with the Pharisees?

This was a much more profoundly meaningful act for them than such a thing would be for us today.

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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

In my experience neither Jesus nor his Father give a **** about anyone. Thst has been my personal experience and likewise the experience of many others around me, whether they recognize it or not.

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Thanks for sharing.

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[MarcATL]

Interesting. So Jesus loves the J6 protestors as much as He loves trans people?

Who knew?

John 3:16

Are you upset about it?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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Luke 15:2
Mark 2:17
1 John 1:9

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[ding]

Youre analogy doesnt work. I dont blame God for anything. Christianity is based on the lie of original sin and the threat of hell to force obedience. It was violent all in the name of Jesus a god of peace. Tell that to the Jews and Muslims they slaughtered

You have become what you hate.

 

[The Irish Ram]

In my experience neither Jesus nor his Father give a **** about anyone. Thst has been my personal experience and likewise the experience of many others around me, whether they recognize it or not.

So, redeeming your soul for eternal bliss isn't enough?
He's not your personal genie. He's not Santa.
This is earth, shit happens.
No one promised you a rose garden...

 

[Anathema]

So, redeeming your soul for eternal bliss isn't enough?
He's not your personal genie. He's not Santa.
This is earth, shit happens.
No one promised you a rose garden...

I could not care less about eternal this or that. I got screwed literally from the moment of my conception. My father, the most truly good and faithful person I’ve ever met got fucked over the moment he was finally going to be able to start living for himself and my mom. My wife became a pre-teen rape victim on the night she lost the grandfather she was very close to. I see very little goodness in this world. I’ve come to accept that; but I’m not going to waste my time worshipping the ************ who runs the house of horrors.

 

[SweetSue92]

Youre analogy doesnt work. I dont blame God for anything. Christianity is based on the lie of original sin and the threat of hell to force obedience. It was violent all in the name of Jesus a god of peace. Tell that to the Jews and Muslims they slaughtered

Christianity is the only religion where God sacrificed Himself to save us, rather than the other way around

 

[SweetSue92]

So, redeeming your soul for eternal bliss isn't enough?
He's not your personal genie. He's not Santa.
This is earth, shit happens.
No one promised you a rose garden...

....I beg your pardon

(I HAD TO! ha)

 

[Hafar1014]

Christianity is the only religion where God sacrificed Himself to save us, rather than the other way around

Actually thats false. The Jesus myth is a very common story thats been repeated many times in different cultures. Virgin birth resurrection apostles is a theme thats been told many times. its not original. Joseph Campbell calls this the hero story.

 

[The Irish Ram]

I see very little goodness in this world

John 16:33 “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”

It's not God's job to spare us from man's inhumanity to man.
Our lives here are just a vapor, and then this portion of our eternity is behind us. God isn't the source of all your troubles, but He will get you through them.

 

[Anathema]

John 16:33 “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”

It's not God's job to spare us from man's inhumanity to man.
Our lives here are just a vapor, and then this portion of our eternity is behind us. God isn't the source of all your troubles, but He will get you through them.

Sorry, I don’t believe in deferred payment. If you want me to do something for you I need payment at time of service. Doesn’t matter if you’re my neighbor, my boss, of God. I get paid when I put the work in.

I thought like you do for 27 years. I believed the lie. I grabbed it hook, line, sinker and bobber. Then I watched my father literally waste away in front of me while he continued to worship like a ******* priest. It didn’t earn him a bit of gratitude or assistance or even the mercy of a quick death. Thsts when I realized that if his God couldn’t find a way to help my father, there was no way he would find any pity for me, a far less righteous and upstanding individual. So I walked away. It took me almost 4 years but I found something I believe in again that actually meets the realities I see every day in the world around me. A spiritual life without the trappings of religion.

 

[SweetSue92]

Actually thats false. The Jesus myth is a very common story thats been repeated many times in different cultures. Virgin birth resurrection apostles is a theme thats been told many times. its not original. Joseph Campbell calls this the hero story.

The Virgin Birth is not what I said. What other major religion has God coming down to save us, and proposes that we can do nothing to save ourselves, which is the reason He had to come?

 

[sparky]

Does He love everyone equally?

i'd like to think so Sue.....

Then why verses like this?

because that is an terrestrial interpretation of celestial intent

Do you love all kids equally? Do you love neighbors' kids as much as your own?

the 'bigger man' would ........just not sure if i am that man.....

~S~

 

[The Irish Ram]

Actually thats false. The Jesus myth is a very common story thats been repeated many times in different cultures. Virgin birth resurrection apostles is a theme thats been told many times. its not original. Joseph Campbell calls this the hero story.

Which one died and then came back? His words will endure forever.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Sorry, I don’t believe in deferred payment. If you want me to do something for you I need payment at time of service. Doesn’t matter if you’re my neighbor, my boss, of God. I get paid when I put the work in.

I thought like you do for 27 years. I believed the lie. I grabbed it hook, line, sinker and bobber. Then I watched my father literally waste away in front of me while he continued to worship like a ******* priest. It didn’t earn him a bit of gratitude or assistance or even the mercy of a quick death. Thsts when I realized that if his God couldn’t find a way to help my father, there was no way he would find any pity for me, a far less righteous and upstanding individual. So I walked away. It took me almost 4 years but I found something I believe in again that actually meets the realities I see every day in the world around me. A spiritual life without the trappings of religion.

God agrees. In fact, He forgives us while we are committing a sin. It's payment we don't deserve.
Tell me about your spiritual life. What is it like?