Zone1 Does Jesus Love Everyone? Does He Love Everyone EQUALLY?

[forkintheroad7]

My belief is that after the original apostles were killed or taken from the earth the church that Jesus established fell into a state of apostacy and the priesthood and apostleship was lost.

Jesus does not establish a Church that can be destroyed by evildoers. All the un-Christian stuff going on at the Vatican makes it LOOK LIKE that has happened, but it only looks that way until you have studied the matter... as I have... as Most Holy Family Monastery has

Jesus said He would build His Church and the very gates of Hell would not prevail against it. . Mt 16:18

The Catholic Church perdures in a small remnant of true Catholics. They may be hard to find, as yours truly well knows... but they are out there. And it could be that only for their sakes has God "postponed" as it were.. the Judgment. When Christ comes again, He will come in judgment.

 

[forkintheroad7]

I don't believe that you and many others interpret Matthew 16 correctly. What Matthew 16 says is:

Matthew 16:13-18
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Cæsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Here Jesus asks his disciples whom they would say he is. Simon Peter said, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God". To this Jesus replied that flesh and blood did not reveal that truth unto him but it was revealed to him by the Father which is in heaven. Jesus then tells Peter that he is Peter, and upon this rock (the rock of revelation) that he would build his church; and the gates of hell would not prevail against it.

We believe that revelation is the rock upon which Christ would build his church. Satan was able to cause a great apostacy but he did not prevail against the church because of the doctrine of revelation. Through another prophet Jesus Christ would again establish his church again on the earth and thus it was not prevailed against. Revelation brought the church back and Satan could not prevail against revelation. In other words, Satan could not keep the church down due to the rock of revelation which allows God to again and again have the power to reestablish his church and to never have it prevailed against.

Well, I hesitate to delve into any of this because 1) I've heard it all before. It is HERESY and

2) you have not studied the information I myself have studied re the Catholic faith, and so, we can only talk past each other and get nowhere

which process does not appeal to me in the slightest.

I know what non-Catholics know. I was outside the True Church for way too long (a day is too long). I have heard it all before.

But you have never studied what I have... therefore, we are not on an equal footing in regards to having a productive conversation..

 

[forkintheroad7]

My belief is that after the original apostles were killed or taken from the earth the church that Jesus established fell into a state of apostacy and the priesthood and apostleship was lost. Later in the early 1800's the Father and Son restored their church to the earth through the Prophet Joseph Smith. This restoration was prophesied of in the book of Acts.

Acts 3:19-21
19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

We believe that Joseph Smith was the prophet through whom Jesus restored his true church and that he ushered in the times of the restitution of all things. My belief is that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the true church of Jesus Christ restored to the earth in these last days. The great apostasy from the original church was prophesied by the prophet Amos:

Amos 8:11-12
11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.

I believe Martin Luther and many others could recognize that the Catholic Church was in accordance with the word of God and left the Catholic church. However, I don't believe that they were called to restore the true church of Jesus Christ. They simply held to their own interpretations of the Bible.

Anything that deviates from what Christ's True Church has taught for 2000 years (not referring to the Vatican city-state but the True Catholic Church)

is

HERESY

+

 

[forkintheroad7]

Great video

A Prophet Explains The Vatican II Apostasy From Catholicism

This is an important video. We strongly encourage people to watch it all the way through.

endtimes.video

Again, I had to watch it several times, stopping it here and there to take notes because it has a lot of info and while Bro Peter can probably make these videos in his sleep LOL

the rest of us are still trying to catch up

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Yes.

"You are my friend, if you do whatsoever I command you "

Do you believe YOU do"whatsoever He commands you"???