Does it really matter who becomes President?

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Presidents aren't kings or dictators, what they can do is restricted by Congress and the Constitution. So does it actually matter who wins? Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative? Isn't it all the same? President Obama made many grandiose promises in his candidate speeches, some of which he totally waffled on. Is it because his character itself is bad, or as President he simply doesn't have the power to actually end a war a previous President began? Or is it something more likely than that, and during the first week of every President someone tells the new President there are some things even President Kennedy couldn't do, and if you don't wanna be remembered like he is, don't try doing certain things...:)

President Kennedy ordered CIA to share its UFO files with KGB. A few days later he was assassinated. Coincidence? I'm not saying one way or the other. But I wouldn't tell CIA what to order for lunch. :)
 
absolutely not .. The U.S. is ran by banks & military complex ..

In a way, think we would be better off if we'd lost WWII. Look at our enemies back then, all powerhouse economies now and not going around the world dropping bombs on anyone that disagrees with them. Whereas the victors of WWII are doing exactly what we opposed the AXIS countries for 70 years ago.
 
No not until Obama came along and had to sign up at work for useless to me health care .now I am wasting $200 bucks month $2,400 a year , that's.fucking vacation money

Obama sucks
 
Interesting question - hope it makes for an interesting discussion.

My two cents: A person's perception of The power of the president seems to be directly related to how much you like the president.

If you LIKE the president, then it's those bastards at SCOTUS or Congress who are screwing things up so bad and your president doesn't seem to have enough power to counteract them.

If you HATE the president, HE's the one screwing everything up.

Just MHO
 
absolutely not .. The U.S. is ran by banks & military complex ..

In a way, think we would be better off if we'd lost WWII. Look at our enemies back then, all powerhouse economies now and not going around the world dropping bombs on anyone that disagrees with them. Whereas the victors of WWII are doing exactly what we opposed the AXIS countries for 70 years ago.
This is the most creepy post I have read In 15 years on the net .dude you are a sicko if you think it would have been better if Hitler had won
 
absolutely not .. The U.S. is ran by banks & military complex ..

In a way, think we would be better off if we'd lost WWII. Look at our enemies back then, all powerhouse economies now and not going around the world dropping bombs on anyone that disagrees with them. Whereas the victors of WWII are doing exactly what we opposed the AXIS countries for 70 years ago.

Like Madelaine Albright said, what good is this giant military we have if we can't use it? Not her exact words but close enough.
 
Interesting question - hope it makes for an interesting discussion.

My two cents: A person's perception of The power of the president seems to be directly related to how much you like the president.

If you LIKE the president, then it's those bastards at SCOTUS or Congress who are screwing things up so bad and your president doesn't seem to have enough power to counteract them.

If you HATE the president, HE's the one screwing everything up.

Just MHO

Haven't liked or disliked a President of my own lifetime (43 years.) But then, I don'tbelieve President are kings with the power we say they have. No President can wake up on the wrong side of the bed and go to war willy-nilly or launch an ICBM because he feels like it. In addition to the many people around him who'd advise against it, there are people with guns who'd shoot him if he tried. At least in my idealistic version of reality that's what'd happen. I'd rather be shot in response than let a President launch nukes somewhere just for the hell of it.

Consequently, every President is bound both by the law, and reality. And consequently aren't responsible for every little thing. If they were then everyone would have to applaud President Obama since the DOW's never been higher. And gas is now cheaper than ever (adjusted for inflation.) So if Presidents are really so powerful, everyone should be on their knees and in line to suck off the current President. But some still say how they hate him. Apparently then they believe Presidents are omnipotent, or they're just stupid and ignorant.
 
God damn you get all the nutso crazy ass weirdos on here, so ignorant of facts and history, that's why it repeats
 
absolutely not .. The U.S. is ran by banks & military complex ..

In a way, think we would be better off if we'd lost WWII. Look at our enemies back then, all powerhouse economies now and not going around the world dropping bombs on anyone that disagrees with them. Whereas the victors of WWII are doing exactly what we opposed the AXIS countries for 70 years ago.

Like Madelaine Albright said, what good is this giant military we have if we can't use it? Not her exact words but close enough.

As I've said, if we've written into law under what very limited circumstances we could nuclear weapons, why pay so much to maintain a non-usable arsenal if just a few as credible deterrent would suffice? Further, if your would-be enemies know you can't use your superpowers, are you still a superpower? Wont they just do everything up to the point they know you can then use nukes?
 
Yes, we need to bring back accountability & promote the ideas of hard work & determination.

8 years of the free loading attitude desperately need to be countered.

The freeloading was going on before Obama, that's for sure. More and more wealth has been shifting to those at the top at the expense of the average citizen for decades.
 
'Does It Really Matter' is the greatest voter suppression tool ever devised for use against Republicans and other Patriots.

Of course it matters. It matters a lot. Really a lot if we have an intelligent Republican or a Cargo Cult bunch of monkeys leading the Republic.

Look at what's happened in Greece? socialist scum DESTROYED that Country....

Socialist Destruction Unleashed in Greece FrontPage Magazine

5 Ways Socialism Destroys Societies - John Hawkins - Page full

The Political Dynasties That Destroyed Greece And The Real Reason The Country Is Such A Mess - Business Insider

They have massive unemployment and the people are so incredible stupid (like ALL socialists) that they're about to turn back toward socialism. It might be their only hope..... Commence the starvation, the intellectual flight, the 'brain drain' from what used to be the cradel of Western Civilization.

Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Italy are doing better, by varying degrees, because they've realized that socialism isn't for civilized humans, it's for scumbags.

So yeah, it matters.

BTW, Conservatives don't like goobermint.

And we don't like Politicians, not even our own.

So if you want to convince a Patriot to stay home, make him or her think "They're all the same"

Whatever lie works for dimocrap scum is all that counts, right?
 
Interesting question - hope it makes for an interesting discussion.

My two cents: A person's perception of The power of the president seems to be directly related to how much you like the president.

If you LIKE the president, then it's those bastards at SCOTUS or Congress who are screwing things up so bad and your president doesn't seem to have enough power to counteract them.

If you HATE the president, HE's the one screwing everything up.

Just MHO

That's just false. 100% wrong.

Without the votes to impeach the president, Congress and the Judicial don't have jack-shit to say about this Country.

Period.

The POTUS can do ANY goddam thing he wants to do.

Anything the Congress or the Judicial have to say about it is less important than that shit I'm about to take.
 
absolutely not .. The U.S. is ran by banks & military complex ..

In a way, think we would be better off if we'd lost WWII. Look at our enemies back then, all powerhouse economies now and not going around the world dropping bombs on anyone that disagrees with them. Whereas the victors of WWII are doing exactly what we opposed the AXIS countries for 70 years ago.

Gotta bail on this one.

Germany and Japan benefited tremendously under the Marshal Plan in which we helped them rebuild their industrial base. So they turned out to be more modern and more competitive than we were. (trend continuing .... ?????)

We kicked their ass because we were attack and because they were committing atrocities throughout China and Europe. Thank goodness there was a nation (or nations) strong enough and willing to stand up to them.

If you know anything about where these two societies were trying to take the world - you wouldn't have to question who "the good guys" were.

Just MHO
 
absolutely not .. The U.S. is ran by banks & military complex ..

In a way, think we would be better off if we'd lost WWII. Look at our enemies back then, all powerhouse economies now and not going around the world dropping bombs on anyone that disagrees with them. Whereas the victors of WWII are doing exactly what we opposed the AXIS countries for 70 years ago.

Gotta bail on this one.

Germany and Japan benefited tremendously under the Marshal Plan in which we helped them rebuild their industrial base. So they turned out to be more modern and more competitive than we were. (trend continuing .... ?????)

We kicked their ass because we were attack and because they were committing atrocities throughout China and Europe. Thank goodness there was a nation (or nations) strong enough and willing to stand up to them.

If you know anything about where these two societies were trying to take the world - you wouldn't have to question who "the good guys" were.

Just MHO

Historically speaking, at least in the Pacific theatre, we started that fight. Pearl Harbor wasn't the first military operation. We supported China military against Japan, and strictly speaking fired first at Pearl Harbor sinking a midget submarine hours before the naval planes arrived. To say nothing of the oil embargo on Japan even today considered an act of war. Pearl Harbor was in response to this and other US acts against Japan leaving a military solution the only option (as they saw it.)
 
Does it really matter who becomes President?

Hello Obamacare. Illegals pouring across our borders. Executive order amnesty for millions of illegals ignoring the will of the people, our elected representatives on congress, and the law. So yes.
 
Interesting question - hope it makes for an interesting discussion.

My two cents: A person's perception of The power of the president seems to be directly related to how much you like the president.

If you LIKE the president, then it's those bastards at SCOTUS or Congress who are screwing things up so bad and your president doesn't seem to have enough power to counteract them.

If you HATE the president, HE's the one screwing everything up.

Just MHO

Haven't liked or disliked a President of my own lifetime (43 years.) But then, I don'tbelieve President are kings with the power we say they have. No President can wake up on the wrong side of the bed and go to war willy-nilly or launch an ICBM because he feels like it. In addition to the many people around him who'd advise against it, there are people with guns who'd shoot him if he tried. At least in my idealistic version of reality that's what'd happen. I'd rather be shot in response than let a President launch nukes somewhere just for the hell of it.

Consequently, every President is bound both by the law, and reality. And consequently aren't responsible for every little thing. If they were then everyone would have to applaud President Obama since the DOW's never been higher. And gas is now cheaper than ever (adjusted for inflation.) So if Presidents are really so powerful, everyone should be on their knees and in line to suck off the current President. But some still say how they hate him. Apparently then they believe Presidents are omnipotent, or they're just stupid and ignorant.

That is just simply nonsensical and juvenile.

The POTUS can launch a Nuclear Strike any time he's in the mood.

He can order a sub-launch. He can order an Aircraft Carrier launch. He could probably order a Medium Range Nuclear Launch -- All without Congressional approval.

The president controls the Military, he controls EVERY SINGLE BRANCH of the US Government. Every one of them.

EVERY FUCKING ONE!!

Am I getting through to you?

The ONLY thing that stands in the way of a criminal President is his honor and commitment to the Constitution and The People it is supposed to protect.

So far, the Lying Cocksucker in Chief has shown limited respect for any of those -- At best.

You people just have no clue what you're talking about.

Seriously
 

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