Do You Want War Or Do You Want Peace With Iran?

[sparky]

I suppose i'm a tad idealistic voting for peace here....~S~

 

[ChristisKing]

I suppose i'm a tad idealistic voting for peace here....~S~

That would be great don't get me wrong, I just don't think that it's very realistic considering who we're dealing with here.

 

[Failzero]

Peace through Victory ( War)

 

[Stryder50]

Again, whose fault is that?

We let the Shah systematically wipe out any credible secular oppossition, until the Clergy were the only ones left.

Were that true, the "clergy opposition" should have/would have been the first focus of the Shah's "repression".
It's a shared fault since those who could have suppressed/removed the theocratic opposition, didn't !

Despite errors of the past, can we assume you support removal of theocratic regime and it's oppression now in the present, or are you just posturing to avoid looking like your radical Leftist persona has been here ???

 

[Stryder50]

Peace through Victory ( War)

a.k.a. removal of theocratic based violent opposition that would block/hinder a more egalitarian restructure of the government ruling the nation of Iran.
???

 

[Stryder50]

I suppose i'm a tad idealistic voting for peace here....~S~

"Peace" at what Price ????

 

[Bleipriester]

You mean the both part?

Yes. I believe this war is necessary for peace.

 

[Stryder50]

Yes. I believe this war is necessary for peace.

For 47+ years Iran has been the source of turmoil, violence, and hostility towards Peace in the Middle East, hence long overdue for de-fang and dis-enfranchise the current ruling regime and replace with more peaceful, humane and rational one.

 

[ChristisKing]

Yes. I believe this war is necessary for peace.

So then you agree with me and your answer would be war... To get to the peace afterwards.

 

[ChristisKing]

Live Updates: U.S. and Iranian negotiators meet as Trump threatens to "hit Iran very hard again" over Hezbollah

The appearance was a rare face-to-face meeting between U.S. and Iranian officials as they launched a 60-day sprint to negotiate over the fate of Iran's nuclear program.

www.cbsnews.com

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-if-tehran-doesnt-stop-hezbollah-making-trouble-well-hit-iran-very-hard-again/

Well I was going to post that it looks like Trump is FINALLY going to get them and then I saw this.

https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=Trump+hit+Iran+hard

 

[sparky]

I don't see Iran having the means to fight back here........~S~

 

[Stryder50]

I don't see Iran having the means to fight back here........~S~

They are exhaling their last gasp at this time ...

 

[JoeB131]

A pittance compared to how many the mad mullahs have murdered you ridiculous buffoon.

Right, they don't agree with your values, so they must be mad.

I mean, who would want a state based on religious fundamentalism with harsh punishments... oh, wait, you guys want that, just for a different religion.

 

[JoeB131]

I don't see Iran having the means to fight back here........~S~

All they have to do is blow up tankers with $10,000 drones and they bring the world economy to its knees.

That's why Trump signed a surrender.

 

[EMH]

For 47+ years Iran has been the source of turmoil, violence, and hostility towards Peace in the Middle East, hence long overdue for de-fang and dis-enfranchise the current ruling regime and replace with more peaceful, humane and rational one.

Substitute Israel for Iran and the statement becomes accurate.

 

[eagle1462010]

Iran now publicly states that before it will consider any concessions to the US, the US must first meet it's obligations of restraining Israel in Lebanon, free up billions in funding and accept that Iran and not the USA controls the Strait of Hormuz.

After those conditions are met and verified, Iran might resume peace talks. If the US does not "behave", then Iran may consider further actions until such compliance is demonstrated by the US.

IRAN can go to fcking Hell

 

[eagle1462010]

Um, the IRANIAN PEOPLE themselves are kind, generous, warm hearted people.
It's the DICTATORS that are evil.

I want no harm to come to the Iranian people. Take out the RG and hardliner leaders.
I could support helping Iran rebuild if a moderate, democratic leadership was installed.

Im sure there were good people in Germany WWII.

But when you go to War ....You go to War with that country.

 

[JoeB131]

Were that true, the "clergy opposition" should have/would have been the first focus of the Shah's "repression".
It's a shared fault since those who could have suppressed/removed the theocratic opposition, didn't !

Actually, it's a lot more complicated than that.

When the CIA overthrew the democratically elected Mossedegh, they found allies in Iran's Shi'ite Clergy. The Shah saw the Clergy as an ally in supporting the Pahlevi Dynasty (as they had the previous Qajar and Safavid dynasties)

The clergy turned on the Shah for two reasons. 1) His utter incompetence in running the country and 2) his attempts to impose decadent western values on it.

Despite errors of the past, can we assume you support removal of theocratic regime and it's oppression now in the present, or are you just posturing to avoid looking like your radical Leftist persona has been here ???

Actually, I think our foreign policy should be like Star Trek's Prime Directive. We shouldn't interfere in any country's internal affairs.
I also think we should stop propping up Ukraine because that thing is dragging out for years with no resolution in sight. Which is hardly a leftist position.

We should also stop propping up Taiwan, given our own legal position is that it is part of China.

 

[Stryder50]

Substitute Israel for Iran and the statement becomes accurate.

Go to hell Nazi !

 

[Stryder50]

Actually, it's a lot more complicated than that.

When the CIA overthrew the democratically elected Mossedegh, they found allies in Iran's Shi'ite Clergy. The Shah saw the Clergy as an ally in supporting the Pahlevi Dynasty (as they had the previous Qajar and Safavid dynasties)

The clergy turned on the Shah for two reasons. 1) His utter incompetence in running the country and 2) his attempts to impose decadent western values on it.



Actually, I think our foreign policy should be like Star Trek's Prime Directive. We shouldn't interfere in any country's internal affairs.
I also think we should stop propping up Ukraine because that thing is dragging out for years with no resolution in sight. Which is hardly a leftist position.

We should also stop propping up Taiwan, given our own legal position is that it is part of China.

You are in the wrong nation and wrong part of the world Komrade Joe.
You'd be more at home in China, or Russia.