Do you Believe Kavanaugh's Rape Accuser?

[Tilly]

Even if she is telling the truth, I don't believe its a big deal that he tried to dry hump a girl when he was 17...

I know that the Democrats are trying to derail any SC pick that Trump makes -- but..................Merrick Garland......the end...

See I agree with you there. I don’t think the accusation is a deal killer. But once he denied being at the party and I’m essence called Ford a liar he picked his side and if it comes out that the allegations are true he loses all credibility for truth telling and that IMO is disqualifying.

How will the allegations be proven true? 36 yrs ago. No credible witnesses. He said/She said? Are we bringing in mind readers? A time machine?

Just going round in circles here, Az.
Some people seem to think a magical something will occur on the 7th/8th/9th.....check, even though Kavs been checked by the FBI 6 times already, which includes school records, uni records, employment records, and talking to teachers, friends, employees, employers etc etc etc.

 

[Rambunctious]

I think it shows that she didn’t want her life picked apart by the media. I’m sure we can all understand that... I don’t think it is as nefarious of a move as many are trying to make it be

She is not telling the truth....she is lying and will never allow herself to be placed under oath....but I guess you libs feel its okay for her to ruin a decent man from afar...like lobbing grenades from the edge.....that is wrong no matter how one slices it.....if this happened and it was Kavanaugh she should have been in DC on Monday...its a dem stall tactic which will not work....she had better be very careful.....she is playing with fire....if she thinks the dems will stand by her when this lie is exposed to the public she is as nuts as a loon.....

 

[Slade3200]

If you are talking about deleting social media accounts then that is standard protocol that any attorney would direct their client to do. For your second point, I don’t see how making the accusation is something that causes one to lose credibility.

Her own witnesses cause her to lose credibility.

And why scrub your previous words?

Any lawyer would direct their client to get off social media. They do that for high profile cases and divorce cases

That's nice. Can you answer the question now?

So you don’t give fuel to the media that will be looking for any reason to disparage your character

Whilst busy disparaging someone else’s on the baisis of no evidence.
Nice.

If she knows it’s true then it isn’t really disparaging, it’s her telling her truth.

 

[Slade3200]

I think it shows that she didn’t want her life picked apart by the media. I’m sure we can all understand that... I don’t think it is as nefarious of a move as many are trying to make it be

She is not telling the truth....she is lying and will never allow herself to be placed under oath....but I guess you libs feel its okay for her to ruin a decent man from afar...like lobbing grenades from the edge.....that is wrong no matter how one slices it.....if this happened and it was Kavanaugh she should have been in DC on Monday...its a dem stall tactic which will not work....she had better be very careful.....she is playing with fire....if she thinks the dems will stand by her when this lie is exposed to the public she is as nuts as a loon.....

Isn’t she testifying under oath on Thursday to congress?

 

[iceberg]

they lose cred when they scrub their history and attack someone esles.

If you are talking about deleting social media accounts then that is standard protocol that any attorney would direct their client to do. For your second point, I don’t see how making the accusation is something that causes one to lose credibility.

Her own witnesses cause her to lose credibility.

And why scrub your previous words?

Any lawyer would direct their client to get off social media. They do that for high profile cases and divorce cases

it wasn't just facebook, slade. she tried to "ghost" her entire past. for that alone she's going to need to have very good reasons of why that happened. if you don't see that is a huge flag then yes, we are at an impasse.

I think it shows that she didn’t want her life picked apart by the media. I’m sure we can all understand that... I don’t think it is as nefarious of a move as many are trying to make it be.

we wont know will we? given her sign with NOT MY PRESIDENT and activities we know calls it all into question. her word is simply not enough.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Even if she is telling the truth, I don't believe its a big deal that he tried to dry hump a girl when he was 17...

I know that the Democrats are trying to derail any SC pick that Trump makes -- but..................Merrick Garland......the end...

See I agree with you there. I don’t think the accusation is a deal killer. But once he denied being at the party and I’m essence called Ford a liar he picked his side and if it comes out that the allegations are true he loses all credibility for truth telling and that IMO is disqualifying.

How will the allegations be proven true? 36 yrs ago. No credible witnesses. He said/She said? Are we bringing in mind readers? A time machine?

They likely won’t prove it either way unless a witness comes forward. We will hear out each side and it will likely be ruled in the court of public opinion. 1/3 of the puppet partisans already have their minds made up on each side of the issue. So it will be the 1/3 that sit in the middle that it will have the biggest impact on.

Agreed. What is interesting is no one cares about Ford. They just want Kavanaugh out. No one is asking for jail time for Kavanaugh.

 

[iceberg]

they lose cred when they scrub their history and attack someone esles.

If you are talking about deleting social media accounts then that is standard protocol that any attorney would direct their client to do. For your second point, I don’t see how making the accusation is something that causes one to lose credibility.

Her own witnesses cause her to lose credibility.

And why scrub your previous words?

Any lawyer would direct their client to get off social media. They do that for high profile cases and divorce cases

That's nice. Can you answer the question now?

So you don’t give fuel to the media that will be looking for any reason to disparage your character

so she can openly disparage someone elses.

 

[iceberg]

they lose cred when they scrub their history and attack someone esles.

If you are talking about deleting social media accounts then that is standard protocol that any attorney would direct their client to do. For your second point, I don’t see how making the accusation is something that causes one to lose credibility.

but she didn't go to the local law or let her attorney do it. she made it political by writing to a representative to FW *TO* DiFi. sending directly to DiFi would subject her to penalties for lying. so all this, given the "prep work" is 100% political.

and as for "hey - standard protocol" - not going to buy into that one. and even if so then again - pre-planned to be political and not legal in nature. you want justice, you go to the law enforcement agency. in this case, 36 years ago. if a "resister" hires a "resister" lawyer, deletes her social history, and works the system like she has, the yes slade this is political and ergo, i don't believe a word shes saying.

I agree it is very much political. If the assault happened I can find it very plausible that she came forward soley to block him from ascending to the Supreme Court. Just as a dozen ladies came out about Trump when he was running for Prez. I don’t think that just because The accusations are being used for political reasons it makes them automatically lies. You are fine to be more skeptical about them but they could very well be true.

i'd be a lot more inclined to believe her *if*
1) any of her named witnesses corroborated it
2) the 6 FBI background checks had found he's exhibited this behavior before
3) she wasn't a member of the RESIST movement with pics of her doing the NOT MY PRESIDENT thing
4) her lawyer wasn't an active part of RESIST as well
5) it didn't take 6 days to get a name out of the "next" witness

all of that is just shady as hell. i do agree the political process has gotten nastyass dirty but these tactics, if allowed, will only be amplified as we move forward. is that what you or anyone *really* wants? when the dems get to appoint someone again - and they will - do they not think the right will not do the very same shit in a "hold my beer" fashion to one-up it?

and around we'll continue to go down the drain.

I agree this is an ugly thing to amplify as a political tactic. The tit for tat game is on and I’m sure this is the Dems getting back for the Garland fiasco. That doesn’t justify it. I don’t know what’s going to stop it. Perhaps if we ever get a mature honorable leader that sets an example for proper etiquette and calls out the games. That is certainly not the current Presidents strong suit so unfortunately I see these games only getting worse

it wasnt the last presidents either.

 

[Tilly]

Her own witnesses cause her to lose credibility.

And why scrub your previous words?

Any lawyer would direct their client to get off social media. They do that for high profile cases and divorce cases

That's nice. Can you answer the question now?

So you don’t give fuel to the media that will be looking for any reason to disparage your character

Whilst busy disparaging someone else’s on the baisis of no evidence.
Nice.

If she knows it’s true then it isn’t really disparaging, it’s her telling her truth.

Even if true, she knows she has absolutley no evidence, she knows she never reported the incident, she knows she never ever spoke of it to anyone for 30+ years, she knows the SoLs has passed and she knows she will destroy a man’s reputation, his career and possibly his family life on the basis of not being able to prove a thing whilst scrubbing all of her own social media in the process so no one can evaluate her.
Like I said, nice.
Not.

 

[iceberg]

By the way.................I have a question.......................

It's in reference to Kavanaugh's interview on FOX last night.

I went to high school. I was friends with some of the varsity football players, and damn near every one of the football players was getting laid on a regular basis.

Kavanaugh played varsity football in high school.

Do any of you believe that Kavanaugh was a virgin all through high school and college?

dont care. his sex life or fords is none of our business.

 

[Tilly]

I think it shows that she didn’t want her life picked apart by the media. I’m sure we can all understand that... I don’t think it is as nefarious of a move as many are trying to make it be

She is not telling the truth....she is lying and will never allow herself to be placed under oath....but I guess you libs feel its okay for her to ruin a decent man from afar...like lobbing grenades from the edge.....that is wrong no matter how one slices it.....if this happened and it was Kavanaugh she should have been in DC on Monday...its a dem stall tactic which will not work....she had better be very careful.....she is playing with fire....if she thinks the dems will stand by her when this lie is exposed to the public she is as nuts as a loon.....

Isn’t she testifying under oath on Thursday to congress?

Ill do some of that speculating you are so fond of.

Ford is such a terrible witness because her case is a non starter (she may even be a reluctant witness as I think she believed she could do the damage whilst remaining anonymous - and reluctant witnesses don’t often give the desired performance), that the Dems have been rooting around and found another woman or two with equally vague unverifiable allegations, so they can now say these new ‘developments’ mean we simply must delay Fords testimony and the vote.

This too was predictable and predicted.

 

[BigTruck]

By the way.................I have a question.......................

It's in reference to Kavanaugh's interview on FOX last night.

I went to high school. I was friends with some of the varsity football players, and damn near every one of the football players was getting laid on a regular basis.

Kavanaugh played varsity football in high school.

Do any of you believe that Kavanaugh was a virgin all through high school and college?

So, do you think Tim Tebow was screwing every slut around?

Just because Kavanaugh was a football player doesn’t mean he was having sex.

 

[EverCurious]

Q: "Who coordinates all of that and how do they do it?!"

A: Moveon.org etc...

Weak answer

Deny it if you want but these are /exactly/ the kinds of groups that organize this sort of shit, always have, always will.

I won’t deny it because I have no way of knowing. Same goes for you. So if you going to try and make the accusations you should be able to back them up with something that makes sense... more than a one word answer.

Ah, clearly I've misjudged your intelligence, my apologies. Let's try again, this time I'll explain for ya, and what the hell I'll even give ya a little more to chew on:

Q: "Who coordinates all of that and how do they do it?!"

A: Political groups would coordinate these kinds of opposition attacks. They often pay for buses to get voters to the booths, or even to get protesters on the streets. Protesters have also been paid by such organizations for their participation on numerous occasions - advertisements looking for protesters have been found as well (I believe the last one I saw was paying $15/hour.) Some have argued that the protesters are not "being paid" but rather that the organizations are paying their fees and bails - this supposedly was the case when the Kavanaugh protesters were arrested in the hearing just a few weeks ago. Considering this, it is not at all unfathomable that political organizations would be paying for "victims" to come forward in the same manner - be that paying them outright, or "just" paying their fees to do so. Not that it even requires payment for some folks, in other sexual assault and rape accusations we've had cases where women simply wanted attention.

As for the organization part; one could look at the political groups that were organizing and funding the violence of ANTIFA. It's not very hard to troll social media for folks willing to say something bad about Kavanaugh - especially when the far left not only absolutely hates Kavanaugh because of the lies the MSM has told them (aka he'll overturn Roe vs Wade!!!) but has also completely lost their grip on reality the past couple years; to the point of silencing any conservative views in colleges, mob reporting conservative YouTube and Twitters to get those folks banned, enacting violence upon folks attending Trump rally's, mobbing and harassing anyone that works for Trump in public (I hear they harassed Cruz at a public restaurant just yesterday,) a teacher brought a gun into their school and shot themselves in the foot to protest the 2nd, a lefty shot up a baseball game trying to kill republicans. You cannot tell me that you don't see that some of these folks are unhinged and acting stupid because of the MSM's bullshit riling them up... Given all that, how is it at all difficult to believe that some folks might lie for "the political cause"?

Well I do thank you for giving a real answer and explaining yourself. I respect that. I do feel that organizing protests and marketing campaigns is quite different than coordinating a conspiratorial lie to discredit a SCOTUS nominee that includes 6 year old records and Swiss cheese accounts, and calls for FBI investigations. If they made this thing up I’d assume they would cook up a more solid story, wouldn’t you? Accuse just Kavanaugh and put them in a one on one situation so it was truly he said she said. Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it’s a lie? That puts criminal charges into play. If I was cooking a lie I’d just play this thing out in the media and try to sway public opinion. Can you acknowledge that it is difficult to make sense out of the story and actions of this were all made up?! It would be the worst fabrication ever right above the dog ate my homework!

Q: "Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it's a lie?"

A: Because the D senators already knew the FBI had refused to investigate it kido. It's a local matter, the politicians know how this shit works and they knew that the general public would fall for their little outrage game when the FBI said, again, that it wasn't their jurisdiction. Now they can twist all the folks who don't know any better into knots about it for the mid-terms. It's working since you and many others apparently think that bullshit request lends some lick of credibility to the story. It's the same with the lie detector thing, also bullshit and useless, but that's why the D's had her take one in... August wasn't it? D's aren't stupid, they know the story doesn't have to be air-tight. they know that their followers won't look into the story too much because the public in general doesn't particularly care about Kavanaugh's nomination, it's not a big thing to them (even the D's) - It's only the activist protester/radical types that are even paying attention to this shit-show. The 30some% who are paying attention hated Kavanaugh anyway so they don't really care about "all" the facts, they, like the D's, just want to push this nomination out until after midterms in the hopes that they can get the Senate and install more activist judges for themselves.

It's why the Kavanaugh nomination is even a problem for the left in the first place remember. The D's are the ones that got ya'll needlessly freaking out about Kavanaugh over-turning Roe vs Wade, it's settled law and he's said as much more than once. Even if he did though, abortion would go back to state decision - aka people would actually get to vote on it for their state, ya know, that democracy thing the left always /says/ they're for? Hell abortion was even legal up here in Alaska back in the 80s-90s, and we're /still/ to this day 70% Christian. The entire D uproar about Roe vs Wade is complete bullshit specifically designed to rile lefties up to vote in the mid-terms and retain D power and control over everyone's lives, via the SCOTUS in this case.

This is exactly the kind of shit that politicians do every single day of every single year; twist stories, cause outrage/anger/high emotions, and profit from it at the polls. They are very good at this game so its zero trouble for them to set something like this up even years in advance - recall they had a protest ready to go before Kavanaugh was even nominated <insert name here> and stuff?

Best wise up kido or they'll be leading you around by the nose for your entire life. Ya know, like Ms. Ford here, who's being used like a tampon and will be flushed very shortly; her life in shambles and none for the wiser of it...

 

[ABikerSailor]

By the way.................I have a question.......................

It's in reference to Kavanaugh's interview on FOX last night.

I went to high school. I was friends with some of the varsity football players, and damn near every one of the football players was getting laid on a regular basis.

Kavanaugh played varsity football in high school.

Do any of you believe that Kavanaugh was a virgin all through high school and college?

So, do you think Tim Tebow was screwing every slut around?

Just because Kavanaugh was a football player doesn’t mean he was having sex.

Actually, in addition to being a football player, his best pal was a drunken slob who wrote about being an alcoholic in the book "Wasted: Tales of a Gen X Drunk". I'd be willing that Kavanaugh was like most other football players I've known and was a party animal.

 

[Ame®icano]

Mark Levin found this... Watch and listen carefully.

 

[WEATHER53]

Maybe this is the first time she’s been off the booze and she’s having DT hallucinations?

 

[Tilly]

Greg Stohr (@GregStohr) on Twitter


NEW: Grassley sets committee vote on Kavanaugh for 9:30 a.m. Friday.

 

[Rambunctious]

Isn’t she testifying under oath on Thursday to congress?

That's anyone's guess...I've not heard for sure that she will...

 

[WEATHER53]

They are going to schedule the vote BEFORE she testifies????
That’s Russian collusion at its worst and Steamy Daniels says so!

 

[Aba Incieni]

They are going to schedule the vote BEFORE she testifies????
That’s Russian collusion at its worst and Steamy Daniels says so!

That's like her accusing him after he testifies lol.