Do you Believe Kavanaugh's Rape Accuser?

[Slade3200]

I think it shows that she didn’t want her life picked apart by the media. I’m sure we can all understand that... I don’t think it is as nefarious of a move as many are trying to make it be

She is not telling the truth....she is lying and will never allow herself to be placed under oath....but I guess you libs feel its okay for her to ruin a decent man from afar...like lobbing grenades from the edge.....that is wrong no matter how one slices it.....if this happened and it was Kavanaugh she should have been in DC on Monday...its a dem stall tactic which will not work....she had better be very careful.....she is playing with fire....if she thinks the dems will stand by her when this lie is exposed to the public she is as nuts as a loon.....

Isn’t she testifying under oath on Thursday to congress?

Ill do some of that speculating you are so fond of.

Ford is such a terrible witness because her case is a non starter (she may even be a reluctant witness as I think she believed she could do the damage whilst remaining anonymous - and reluctant witnesses don’t often give the desired performance), that the Dems have been rooting around and found another woman or two with equally vague unverifiable allegations, so they can now say these new ‘developments’ mean we simply must delay Fords testimony and the vote.

This too was predictable and predicted.

We shall see... now that I finally got you speculating, which I’m very excited about so thank you, let me ask... if another accuser comes out with credible evidence that Kav is a slimeball would you accept it? Or are you locked in that anything that comes out about him at this point is fabricated?

Presumption of innocence. We're gonna need some proof besides her witnesses and lifelong friend saying she's full of shit.

Yes, that’s obvious

 

[Slade3200]

Presumption of innocence. We're gonna need some proof besides her witnesses and lifelong friend saying she's full of shit.

According to leftists, the burden is on accused to prove the innocence. For that reason they're demanding that Kavanaugh should testify first.

However, back in 1991, at the Thomas hearings, Joe Biden said: “And lastly, Judge, with me, from the beginning and at this moment, until the end, the presumption [of innocence] is with you."

But it doesn't matter if leftist said something 30 years ago, or yesterday, today they'll say whatever is needed to get it their way, including lies, and deception.

Those who are saying that are full of shit and should be ashamed at the suggestion

 

[BigTruck]

Deny it if you want but these are /exactly/ the kinds of groups that organize this sort of shit, always have, always will.

I won’t deny it because I have no way of knowing. Same goes for you. So if you going to try and make the accusations you should be able to back them up with something that makes sense... more than a one word answer.

Ah, clearly I've misjudged your intelligence, my apologies. Let's try again, this time I'll explain for ya, and what the hell I'll even give ya a little more to chew on:

Q: "Who coordinates all of that and how do they do it?!"

A: Political groups would coordinate these kinds of opposition attacks. They often pay for buses to get voters to the booths, or even to get protesters on the streets. Protesters have also been paid by such organizations for their participation on numerous occasions - advertisements looking for protesters have been found as well (I believe the last one I saw was paying $15/hour.) Some have argued that the protesters are not "being paid" but rather that the organizations are paying their fees and bails - this supposedly was the case when the Kavanaugh protesters were arrested in the hearing just a few weeks ago. Considering this, it is not at all unfathomable that political organizations would be paying for "victims" to come forward in the same manner - be that paying them outright, or "just" paying their fees to do so. Not that it even requires payment for some folks, in other sexual assault and rape accusations we've had cases where women simply wanted attention.

As for the organization part; one could look at the political groups that were organizing and funding the violence of ANTIFA. It's not very hard to troll social media for folks willing to say something bad about Kavanaugh - especially when the far left not only absolutely hates Kavanaugh because of the lies the MSM has told them (aka he'll overturn Roe vs Wade!!!) but has also completely lost their grip on reality the past couple years; to the point of silencing any conservative views in colleges, mob reporting conservative YouTube and Twitters to get those folks banned, enacting violence upon folks attending Trump rally's, mobbing and harassing anyone that works for Trump in public (I hear they harassed Cruz at a public restaurant just yesterday,) a teacher brought a gun into their school and shot themselves in the foot to protest the 2nd, a lefty shot up a baseball game trying to kill republicans. You cannot tell me that you don't see that some of these folks are unhinged and acting stupid because of the MSM's bullshit riling them up... Given all that, how is it at all difficult to believe that some folks might lie for "the political cause"?

Well I do thank you for giving a real answer and explaining yourself. I respect that. I do feel that organizing protests and marketing campaigns is quite different than coordinating a conspiratorial lie to discredit a SCOTUS nominee that includes 6 year old records and Swiss cheese accounts, and calls for FBI investigations. If they made this thing up I’d assume they would cook up a more solid story, wouldn’t you? Accuse just Kavanaugh and put them in a one on one situation so it was truly he said she said. Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it’s a lie? That puts criminal charges into play. If I was cooking a lie I’d just play this thing out in the media and try to sway public opinion. Can you acknowledge that it is difficult to make sense out of the story and actions of this were all made up?! It would be the worst fabrication ever right above the dog ate my homework!

Q: "Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it's a lie?"

A: Because the D senators already knew the FBI had refused to investigate it kido. It's a local matter, the politicians know how this shit works and they knew that the general public would fall for their little outrage game when the FBI said, again, that it wasn't their jurisdiction. Now they can twist all the folks who don't know any better into knots about it for the mid-terms. It's working since you and many others apparently think that bullshit request lends some lick of credibility to the story. It's the same with the lie detector thing, also bullshit and useless, but that's why the D's had her take one in... August wasn't it? D's aren't stupid, they know the story doesn't have to be air-tight. they know that their followers won't look into the story too much because the public in general doesn't particularly care about Kavanaugh's nomination, it's not a big thing to them (even the D's) - It's only the activist protester/radical types that are even paying attention to this shit-show. The 30some% who are paying attention hated Kavanaugh anyway so they don't really care about "all" the facts, they, like the D's, just want to push this nomination out until after midterms in the hopes that they can get the Senate and install more activist judges for themselves.

It's why the Kavanaugh nomination is even a problem for the left in the first place remember. The D's are the ones that got ya'll needlessly freaking out about Kavanaugh over-turning Roe vs Wade, it's settled law and he's said as much more than once. Even if he did though, abortion would go back to state decision - aka people would actually get to vote on it for their state, ya know, that democracy thing the left always /says/ they're for? Hell abortion was even legal up here in Alaska back in the 80s-90s, and we're /still/ to this day 70% Christian. The entire D uproar about Roe vs Wade is complete bullshit specifically designed to rile lefties up to vote in the mid-terms and retain D power and control over everyone's lives, via the SCOTUS in this case.

This is exactly the kind of shit that politicians do every single day of every single year; twist stories, cause outrage/anger/high emotions, and profit from it at the polls. They are very good at this game so its zero trouble for them to set something like this up even years in advance - recall they had a protest ready to go before Kavanaugh was even nominated <insert name here> and stuff?

Best wise up kido or they'll be leading you around by the nose for your entire life. Ya know, like Ms. Ford here, who's being used like a tampon and will be flushed very shortly; her life in shambles and none for the wiser of it...

That’s not true. Then FBI can certainly do background checks. They already done 6. This accusation brings new info to light that needs to be vetted. The FBI can easily conduct a couple of interviews and present their findings to congress. You are conflating a background check with a criminal investigation. The White House or congress can request for the FBI to do this at any time

Why should the FBI reopen a background check when the committee is doing exactly what the FBI would do? The only thing the FBI can do is ask the lying ***** questions and the same for Judge Kavanaugh. Everyone else who’s been named have already refuted her statements, some under penalty of perjury.

 

[Slade3200]

With almost 1200 posts approaching and no end in sight, is there anything beside Ford's letter to Feinstein presented that demonstrate or prove Kavanaugh is guilty?

And in a case of second woman Ramirez, Democrats found her and worked her out for six days to make her testify.

Don’t forget about the creepy porn lawyers client who’s accusations will be announced tomorrow.

 

[Slade3200]

I won’t deny it because I have no way of knowing. Same goes for you. So if you going to try and make the accusations you should be able to back them up with something that makes sense... more than a one word answer.

Ah, clearly I've misjudged your intelligence, my apologies. Let's try again, this time I'll explain for ya, and what the hell I'll even give ya a little more to chew on:

Q: "Who coordinates all of that and how do they do it?!"

A: Political groups would coordinate these kinds of opposition attacks. They often pay for buses to get voters to the booths, or even to get protesters on the streets. Protesters have also been paid by such organizations for their participation on numerous occasions - advertisements looking for protesters have been found as well (I believe the last one I saw was paying $15/hour.) Some have argued that the protesters are not "being paid" but rather that the organizations are paying their fees and bails - this supposedly was the case when the Kavanaugh protesters were arrested in the hearing just a few weeks ago. Considering this, it is not at all unfathomable that political organizations would be paying for "victims" to come forward in the same manner - be that paying them outright, or "just" paying their fees to do so. Not that it even requires payment for some folks, in other sexual assault and rape accusations we've had cases where women simply wanted attention.

As for the organization part; one could look at the political groups that were organizing and funding the violence of ANTIFA. It's not very hard to troll social media for folks willing to say something bad about Kavanaugh - especially when the far left not only absolutely hates Kavanaugh because of the lies the MSM has told them (aka he'll overturn Roe vs Wade!!!) but has also completely lost their grip on reality the past couple years; to the point of silencing any conservative views in colleges, mob reporting conservative YouTube and Twitters to get those folks banned, enacting violence upon folks attending Trump rally's, mobbing and harassing anyone that works for Trump in public (I hear they harassed Cruz at a public restaurant just yesterday,) a teacher brought a gun into their school and shot themselves in the foot to protest the 2nd, a lefty shot up a baseball game trying to kill republicans. You cannot tell me that you don't see that some of these folks are unhinged and acting stupid because of the MSM's bullshit riling them up... Given all that, how is it at all difficult to believe that some folks might lie for "the political cause"?

Well I do thank you for giving a real answer and explaining yourself. I respect that. I do feel that organizing protests and marketing campaigns is quite different than coordinating a conspiratorial lie to discredit a SCOTUS nominee that includes 6 year old records and Swiss cheese accounts, and calls for FBI investigations. If they made this thing up I’d assume they would cook up a more solid story, wouldn’t you? Accuse just Kavanaugh and put them in a one on one situation so it was truly he said she said. Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it’s a lie? That puts criminal charges into play. If I was cooking a lie I’d just play this thing out in the media and try to sway public opinion. Can you acknowledge that it is difficult to make sense out of the story and actions of this were all made up?! It would be the worst fabrication ever right above the dog ate my homework!

Q: "Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it's a lie?"

A: Because the D senators already knew the FBI had refused to investigate it kido. It's a local matter, the politicians know how this shit works and they knew that the general public would fall for their little outrage game when the FBI said, again, that it wasn't their jurisdiction. Now they can twist all the folks who don't know any better into knots about it for the mid-terms. It's working since you and many others apparently think that bullshit request lends some lick of credibility to the story. It's the same with the lie detector thing, also bullshit and useless, but that's why the D's had her take one in... August wasn't it? D's aren't stupid, they know the story doesn't have to be air-tight. they know that their followers won't look into the story too much because the public in general doesn't particularly care about Kavanaugh's nomination, it's not a big thing to them (even the D's) - It's only the activist protester/radical types that are even paying attention to this shit-show. The 30some% who are paying attention hated Kavanaugh anyway so they don't really care about "all" the facts, they, like the D's, just want to push this nomination out until after midterms in the hopes that they can get the Senate and install more activist judges for themselves.

It's why the Kavanaugh nomination is even a problem for the left in the first place remember. The D's are the ones that got ya'll needlessly freaking out about Kavanaugh over-turning Roe vs Wade, it's settled law and he's said as much more than once. Even if he did though, abortion would go back to state decision - aka people would actually get to vote on it for their state, ya know, that democracy thing the left always /says/ they're for? Hell abortion was even legal up here in Alaska back in the 80s-90s, and we're /still/ to this day 70% Christian. The entire D uproar about Roe vs Wade is complete bullshit specifically designed to rile lefties up to vote in the mid-terms and retain D power and control over everyone's lives, via the SCOTUS in this case.

This is exactly the kind of shit that politicians do every single day of every single year; twist stories, cause outrage/anger/high emotions, and profit from it at the polls. They are very good at this game so its zero trouble for them to set something like this up even years in advance - recall they had a protest ready to go before Kavanaugh was even nominated <insert name here> and stuff?

Best wise up kido or they'll be leading you around by the nose for your entire life. Ya know, like Ms. Ford here, who's being used like a tampon and will be flushed very shortly; her life in shambles and none for the wiser of it...

That’s not true. Then FBI can certainly do background checks. They already done 6. This accusation brings new info to light that needs to be vetted. The FBI can easily conduct a couple of interviews and present their findings to congress. You are conflating a background check with a criminal investigation. The White House or congress can request for the FBI to do this at any time

Why should the FBI reopen a background check when the committee is doing exactly what the FBI would do? The only thing the FBI can do is ask the lying ***** questions and the same for Judge Kavanaugh. Everyone else who’s been named have already refuted her statements, some under penalty of perjury.

Because the FBI are trained professionals and the committee is full of partisan puppets

 

[skookerasbil]

Trump says Kavanaugh accusers are part of Democrats’ ‘con game’

Lol....grease up s0n!! Next week gonna suck for you!! Nobody cares about Dr Ford!

Trump's retarded so I don't know what you're trying to say with that link

Trump says Kavanaugh accusers are part of Democrats’ ‘con game’

 

[skookerasbil]

Deny it if you want but these are /exactly/ the kinds of groups that organize this sort of shit, always have, always will.

I won’t deny it because I have no way of knowing. Same goes for you. So if you going to try and make the accusations you should be able to back them up with something that makes sense... more than a one word answer.

Ah, clearly I've misjudged your intelligence, my apologies. Let's try again, this time I'll explain for ya, and what the hell I'll even give ya a little more to chew on:

Q: "Who coordinates all of that and how do they do it?!"

A: Political groups would coordinate these kinds of opposition attacks. They often pay for buses to get voters to the booths, or even to get protesters on the streets. Protesters have also been paid by such organizations for their participation on numerous occasions - advertisements looking for protesters have been found as well (I believe the last one I saw was paying $15/hour.) Some have argued that the protesters are not "being paid" but rather that the organizations are paying their fees and bails - this supposedly was the case when the Kavanaugh protesters were arrested in the hearing just a few weeks ago. Considering this, it is not at all unfathomable that political organizations would be paying for "victims" to come forward in the same manner - be that paying them outright, or "just" paying their fees to do so. Not that it even requires payment for some folks, in other sexual assault and rape accusations we've had cases where women simply wanted attention.

As for the organization part; one could look at the political groups that were organizing and funding the violence of ANTIFA. It's not very hard to troll social media for folks willing to say something bad about Kavanaugh - especially when the far left not only absolutely hates Kavanaugh because of the lies the MSM has told them (aka he'll overturn Roe vs Wade!!!) but has also completely lost their grip on reality the past couple years; to the point of silencing any conservative views in colleges, mob reporting conservative YouTube and Twitters to get those folks banned, enacting violence upon folks attending Trump rally's, mobbing and harassing anyone that works for Trump in public (I hear they harassed Cruz at a public restaurant just yesterday,) a teacher brought a gun into their school and shot themselves in the foot to protest the 2nd, a lefty shot up a baseball game trying to kill republicans. You cannot tell me that you don't see that some of these folks are unhinged and acting stupid because of the MSM's bullshit riling them up... Given all that, how is it at all difficult to believe that some folks might lie for "the political cause"?

Well I do thank you for giving a real answer and explaining yourself. I respect that. I do feel that organizing protests and marketing campaigns is quite different than coordinating a conspiratorial lie to discredit a SCOTUS nominee that includes 6 year old records and Swiss cheese accounts, and calls for FBI investigations. If they made this thing up I’d assume they would cook up a more solid story, wouldn’t you? Accuse just Kavanaugh and put them in a one on one situation so it was truly he said she said. Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it’s a lie? That puts criminal charges into play. If I was cooking a lie I’d just play this thing out in the media and try to sway public opinion. Can you acknowledge that it is difficult to make sense out of the story and actions of this were all made up?! It would be the worst fabrication ever right above the dog ate my homework!

Q: "Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it's a lie?"

A: Because the D senators already knew the FBI had refused to investigate it kido. It's a local matter, the politicians know how this shit works and they knew that the general public would fall for their little outrage game when the FBI said, again, that it wasn't their jurisdiction. Now they can twist all the folks who don't know any better into knots about it for the mid-terms. It's working since you and many others apparently think that bullshit request lends some lick of credibility to the story. It's the same with the lie detector thing, also bullshit and useless, but that's why the D's had her take one in... August wasn't it? D's aren't stupid, they know the story doesn't have to be air-tight. they know that their followers won't look into the story too much because the public in general doesn't particularly care about Kavanaugh's nomination, it's not a big thing to them (even the D's) - It's only the activist protester/radical types that are even paying attention to this shit-show. The 30some% who are paying attention hated Kavanaugh anyway so they don't really care about "all" the facts, they, like the D's, just want to push this nomination out until after midterms in the hopes that they can get the Senate and install more activist judges for themselves.

It's why the Kavanaugh nomination is even a problem for the left in the first place remember. The D's are the ones that got ya'll needlessly freaking out about Kavanaugh over-turning Roe vs Wade, it's settled law and he's said as much more than once. Even if he did though, abortion would go back to state decision - aka people would actually get to vote on it for their state, ya know, that democracy thing the left always /says/ they're for? Hell abortion was even legal up here in Alaska back in the 80s-90s, and we're /still/ to this day 70% Christian. The entire D uproar about Roe vs Wade is complete bullshit specifically designed to rile lefties up to vote in the mid-terms and retain D power and control over everyone's lives, via the SCOTUS in this case.

This is exactly the kind of shit that politicians do every single day of every single year; twist stories, cause outrage/anger/high emotions, and profit from it at the polls. They are very good at this game so its zero trouble for them to set something like this up even years in advance - recall they had a protest ready to go before Kavanaugh was even nominated <insert name here> and stuff?

Best wise up kido or they'll be leading you around by the nose for your entire life. Ya know, like Ms. Ford here, who's being used like a tampon and will be flushed very shortly; her life in shambles and none for the wiser of it...

That’s not true. Then FBI can certainly do background checks. They already done 6. This accusation brings new info to light that needs to be vetted. The FBI can easily conduct a couple of interviews and present their findings to congress. You are conflating a background check with a criminal investigation. The White House or congress can request for the FBI to do this at any time

Dang s0n.....

I'm laughing.....there are some out there who still think this is a legal matter!

 

[Ame®icano]

I agree. In this case her word alone is not enough. Which is why I think it’s fair to have a hearing where we can hear each persons account and also have the FBI do a basic check on her claims. I dont see why people have a problem with the investigation?

* Not relevant for up/down confirmation vote.
* Not federal jurisdiction.
* No reason to delay confirmation vote.

Good enough?

Good enough for you and all who just want him on the SCOTUS. Pretty weak for those who want to take the accusers claim seriously and vet this thing out

What's to take seriously, making demand after demand to delay the confirmation vote until after Supreme Court start its session, or even until after the election.If Dems succeed in that, Ford wont even show up before committee.

How something that hasn't happened can be investigated?

Well, they could ask Kavanaugh something like: "Can you prove you were not at the unknown location, on unknown date, and unknown time?" What could be his answer to that?

 

[Ame®icano]

Presumption of innocence. We're gonna need some proof besides her witnesses and lifelong friend saying she's full of shit.

According to leftists, the burden is on accused to prove the innocence. For that reason they're demanding that Kavanaugh should testify first.

However, back in 1991, at the Thomas hearings, Joe Biden said: “And lastly, Judge, with me, from the beginning and at this moment, until the end, the presumption [of innocence] is with you."

But it doesn't matter if leftist said something 30 years ago, or yesterday, today they'll say whatever is needed to get it their way, including lies, and deception.

Those who are saying that are full of shit and should be ashamed at the suggestion

Those who are saying that are Democrats.

 

[Doc7505]

With almost 1200 posts approaching and no end in sight, is there anything beside Ford's letter to Feinstein presented that demonstrate or prove Kavanaugh is guilty?

And in a case of second woman Ramirez, Democrats found her and worked her out for six days to make her testify.

Don’t forget about the creepy porn lawyers client who’s accusations will be announced tomorrow.

~~~~~~
Word is that Creepy Porn Lawyer Avenatti Got Punked By Internet Trolls On Kavanaugh Gang-Rape Ring Allegation?

 

[Ame®icano]

With almost 1200 posts approaching and no end in sight, is there anything beside Ford's letter to Feinstein presented that demonstrate or prove Kavanaugh is guilty?

And in a case of second woman Ramirez, Democrats found her and worked her out for six days to make her testify.

Don’t forget about the creepy porn lawyers client who’s accusations will be announced tomorrow.

After being duped by 4chan twice, I can't wait to see him getting publicly fucked on national media.

 

[toobfreak]

IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THIS NOW:

Either Kavanaugh is lying or Ford and Ramirez are.

Either Kavanaugh with a sterling, distinguished, spotless lifetime judicial career to the US Court of Appeals as a US Circuit Judge where the Supreme Court has taken his position on thirteen instances while only reversing his position ONCE has all been to hide his reckless youth where he held down girls and assaulted them while waving his pee pee in their face so well that the FBI failed to uncover any of this on SIX background investigations and not a single documentation, piece of evidence or culpable witness can be found, and the guy has the world's best "Who, me?" poker face,

- OR -

Ford and Ramirez, two hardcore Left-wing Trump haters who claim they were assaulted by this guy 36 years ago and never reported it, never said a word to anyone about it all that time, have mounds of conflicting statements and allegations, and cannot turn up a single corroborating witness to back up their stories who now waited until the week before Kavanaugh's confirmation when they had months to act, ARE LYING to try to derail another much-hated conservative from being appointed to the Supreme Court!

WHICH-O-WHICH CAN IT BE?

 

[WEATHER53]

Here’s the win win
Dems-let him get confirmed but still continue to pursue him
Is it not more fun to screw with a sitting SC judge than it is to screw up him becoming one ?

 

[EverCurious]

Deny it if you want but these are /exactly/ the kinds of groups that organize this sort of shit, always have, always will.

I won’t deny it because I have no way of knowing. Same goes for you. So if you going to try and make the accusations you should be able to back them up with something that makes sense... more than a one word answer.

Ah, clearly I've misjudged your intelligence, my apologies. Let's try again, this time I'll explain for ya, and what the hell I'll even give ya a little more to chew on:

Q: "Who coordinates all of that and how do they do it?!"

A: Political groups would coordinate these kinds of opposition attacks. They often pay for buses to get voters to the booths, or even to get protesters on the streets. Protesters have also been paid by such organizations for their participation on numerous occasions - advertisements looking for protesters have been found as well (I believe the last one I saw was paying $15/hour.) Some have argued that the protesters are not "being paid" but rather that the organizations are paying their fees and bails - this supposedly was the case when the Kavanaugh protesters were arrested in the hearing just a few weeks ago. Considering this, it is not at all unfathomable that political organizations would be paying for "victims" to come forward in the same manner - be that paying them outright, or "just" paying their fees to do so. Not that it even requires payment for some folks, in other sexual assault and rape accusations we've had cases where women simply wanted attention.

As for the organization part; one could look at the political groups that were organizing and funding the violence of ANTIFA. It's not very hard to troll social media for folks willing to say something bad about Kavanaugh - especially when the far left not only absolutely hates Kavanaugh because of the lies the MSM has told them (aka he'll overturn Roe vs Wade!!!) but has also completely lost their grip on reality the past couple years; to the point of silencing any conservative views in colleges, mob reporting conservative YouTube and Twitters to get those folks banned, enacting violence upon folks attending Trump rally's, mobbing and harassing anyone that works for Trump in public (I hear they harassed Cruz at a public restaurant just yesterday,) a teacher brought a gun into their school and shot themselves in the foot to protest the 2nd, a lefty shot up a baseball game trying to kill republicans. You cannot tell me that you don't see that some of these folks are unhinged and acting stupid because of the MSM's bullshit riling them up... Given all that, how is it at all difficult to believe that some folks might lie for "the political cause"?

Well I do thank you for giving a real answer and explaining yourself. I respect that. I do feel that organizing protests and marketing campaigns is quite different than coordinating a conspiratorial lie to discredit a SCOTUS nominee that includes 6 year old records and Swiss cheese accounts, and calls for FBI investigations. If they made this thing up I’d assume they would cook up a more solid story, wouldn’t you? Accuse just Kavanaugh and put them in a one on one situation so it was truly he said she said. Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it’s a lie? That puts criminal charges into play. If I was cooking a lie I’d just play this thing out in the media and try to sway public opinion. Can you acknowledge that it is difficult to make sense out of the story and actions of this were all made up?! It would be the worst fabrication ever right above the dog ate my homework!

Q: "Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it's a lie?"

A: Because the D senators already knew the FBI had refused to investigate it kido. It's a local matter, the politicians know how this shit works and they knew that the general public would fall for their little outrage game when the FBI said, again, that it wasn't their jurisdiction. Now they can twist all the folks who don't know any better into knots about it for the mid-terms. It's working since you and many others apparently think that bullshit request lends some lick of credibility to the story. It's the same with the lie detector thing, also bullshit and useless, but that's why the D's had her take one in... August wasn't it? D's aren't stupid, they know the story doesn't have to be air-tight. they know that their followers won't look into the story too much because the public in general doesn't particularly care about Kavanaugh's nomination, it's not a big thing to them (even the D's) - It's only the activist protester/radical types that are even paying attention to this shit-show. The 30some% who are paying attention hated Kavanaugh anyway so they don't really care about "all" the facts, they, like the D's, just want to push this nomination out until after midterms in the hopes that they can get the Senate and install more activist judges for themselves.

It's why the Kavanaugh nomination is even a problem for the left in the first place remember. The D's are the ones that got ya'll needlessly freaking out about Kavanaugh over-turning Roe vs Wade, it's settled law and he's said as much more than once. Even if he did though, abortion would go back to state decision - aka people would actually get to vote on it for their state, ya know, that democracy thing the left always /says/ they're for? Hell abortion was even legal up here in Alaska back in the 80s-90s, and we're /still/ to this day 70% Christian. The entire D uproar about Roe vs Wade is complete bullshit specifically designed to rile lefties up to vote in the mid-terms and retain D power and control over everyone's lives, via the SCOTUS in this case.

This is exactly the kind of shit that politicians do every single day of every single year; twist stories, cause outrage/anger/high emotions, and profit from it at the polls. They are very good at this game so its zero trouble for them to set something like this up even years in advance - recall they had a protest ready to go before Kavanaugh was even nominated <insert name here> and stuff?

Best wise up kido or they'll be leading you around by the nose for your entire life. Ya know, like Ms. Ford here, who's being used like a tampon and will be flushed very shortly; her life in shambles and none for the wiser of it...

That’s not true. Then FBI can certainly do background checks. They already done 6. This accusation brings new info to light that needs to be vetted. The FBI can easily conduct a couple of interviews and present their findings to congress. You are conflating a background check with a criminal investigation. The White House or congress can request for the FBI to do this at any time

Like I said before kido, you best wisen up and stop letting the media and politicians lead you around by the nose...

On Sunday evening, September 16th, Ford identified herself.

On Monday evening, September 17th, AP relayed the following statement from the DOJ regarding the FBI's involvement (specifically note the bold part and think about what it says):

The Justice Department says the sexual assault allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh "does not involve any potential federal crime" for the FBI to investigate.

The department said in a statement Monday night that the FBI's role during background investigations is to evaluate whether the nominee could pose a national security risk and then provide that information "for the use of the decision makers."

The department says it's not the job of the FBI to judge the significance or the credibility of an accusation.


In the case of Kavanaugh, the FBI received a letter Sept. 12 with allegations of misconduct in the 1980s, when both Kavanaugh and his accuser were teenagers.

The Justice Department says the FBI forwarded the letter to the White House counsel's office.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...kavanaugh-accuser-willing-to-talk-to-congress

 

[iceberg]

That's nice. Can you answer the question now?

So you don’t give fuel to the media that will be looking for any reason to disparage your character

Whilst busy disparaging someone else’s on the baisis of no evidence.
Nice.

If she knows it’s true then it isn’t really disparaging, it’s her telling her truth.

Even if true, she knows she has absolutley no evidence, she knows she never reported the incident, she knows she never ever spoke of it to anyone for 30+ years, she knows the SoLs has passed and she knows she will destroy a man’s reputation, his career and possibly his family life on the basis of not being able to prove a thing whilst scrubbing all of her own social media in the process so no one can evaluate her.
Like I said, nice.
Not.

If true I don’t think she really cares about any of that shit. She’s been living with it for 30+ years.

living with an offense you just said isnt that bad.

 

[Dragonlady]

Why don’t Republicans want an Investigation. There are now two credible accusations and potentially a third woman coming forward today.

I seriously doubt the Senate will approve this nomination without an investigation. It would be totally irresponsible of them to do so.

Not that I ever expect McConnell to behave as anything other than a blind partisan hack. Reasonable and responsible isn’t in McConnell’s vocabulary.

 

[BigTruck]

Why don’t Republicans want an Investigation. There are now two credible accusations and potentially a third woman coming forward today.

I seriously doubt the Senate will approve this nomination without an investigation. It would be totally irresponsible of them to do so.

Not that I ever expect McConnell to behave as anything other than a blind partisan hack. Reasonable and responsible isn’t in McConnell’s vocabulary.

There are zero credible accusations and none of them involve a potential federal crime.

The only thing for the committee to do is listen to the lying women and then hold a vote on whether or not to send the confirmation to the full senate.

 

[Slade3200]

I won’t deny it because I have no way of knowing. Same goes for you. So if you going to try and make the accusations you should be able to back them up with something that makes sense... more than a one word answer.

Ah, clearly I've misjudged your intelligence, my apologies. Let's try again, this time I'll explain for ya, and what the hell I'll even give ya a little more to chew on:

Q: "Who coordinates all of that and how do they do it?!"

A: Political groups would coordinate these kinds of opposition attacks. They often pay for buses to get voters to the booths, or even to get protesters on the streets. Protesters have also been paid by such organizations for their participation on numerous occasions - advertisements looking for protesters have been found as well (I believe the last one I saw was paying $15/hour.) Some have argued that the protesters are not "being paid" but rather that the organizations are paying their fees and bails - this supposedly was the case when the Kavanaugh protesters were arrested in the hearing just a few weeks ago. Considering this, it is not at all unfathomable that political organizations would be paying for "victims" to come forward in the same manner - be that paying them outright, or "just" paying their fees to do so. Not that it even requires payment for some folks, in other sexual assault and rape accusations we've had cases where women simply wanted attention.

As for the organization part; one could look at the political groups that were organizing and funding the violence of ANTIFA. It's not very hard to troll social media for folks willing to say something bad about Kavanaugh - especially when the far left not only absolutely hates Kavanaugh because of the lies the MSM has told them (aka he'll overturn Roe vs Wade!!!) but has also completely lost their grip on reality the past couple years; to the point of silencing any conservative views in colleges, mob reporting conservative YouTube and Twitters to get those folks banned, enacting violence upon folks attending Trump rally's, mobbing and harassing anyone that works for Trump in public (I hear they harassed Cruz at a public restaurant just yesterday,) a teacher brought a gun into their school and shot themselves in the foot to protest the 2nd, a lefty shot up a baseball game trying to kill republicans. You cannot tell me that you don't see that some of these folks are unhinged and acting stupid because of the MSM's bullshit riling them up... Given all that, how is it at all difficult to believe that some folks might lie for "the political cause"?

Well I do thank you for giving a real answer and explaining yourself. I respect that. I do feel that organizing protests and marketing campaigns is quite different than coordinating a conspiratorial lie to discredit a SCOTUS nominee that includes 6 year old records and Swiss cheese accounts, and calls for FBI investigations. If they made this thing up I’d assume they would cook up a more solid story, wouldn’t you? Accuse just Kavanaugh and put them in a one on one situation so it was truly he said she said. Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it’s a lie? That puts criminal charges into play. If I was cooking a lie I’d just play this thing out in the media and try to sway public opinion. Can you acknowledge that it is difficult to make sense out of the story and actions of this were all made up?! It would be the worst fabrication ever right above the dog ate my homework!

Q: "Why push so hard for the FBI to investigate if it's a lie?"

A: Because the D senators already knew the FBI had refused to investigate it kido. It's a local matter, the politicians know how this shit works and they knew that the general public would fall for their little outrage game when the FBI said, again, that it wasn't their jurisdiction. Now they can twist all the folks who don't know any better into knots about it for the mid-terms. It's working since you and many others apparently think that bullshit request lends some lick of credibility to the story. It's the same with the lie detector thing, also bullshit and useless, but that's why the D's had her take one in... August wasn't it? D's aren't stupid, they know the story doesn't have to be air-tight. they know that their followers won't look into the story too much because the public in general doesn't particularly care about Kavanaugh's nomination, it's not a big thing to them (even the D's) - It's only the activist protester/radical types that are even paying attention to this shit-show. The 30some% who are paying attention hated Kavanaugh anyway so they don't really care about "all" the facts, they, like the D's, just want to push this nomination out until after midterms in the hopes that they can get the Senate and install more activist judges for themselves.

It's why the Kavanaugh nomination is even a problem for the left in the first place remember. The D's are the ones that got ya'll needlessly freaking out about Kavanaugh over-turning Roe vs Wade, it's settled law and he's said as much more than once. Even if he did though, abortion would go back to state decision - aka people would actually get to vote on it for their state, ya know, that democracy thing the left always /says/ they're for? Hell abortion was even legal up here in Alaska back in the 80s-90s, and we're /still/ to this day 70% Christian. The entire D uproar about Roe vs Wade is complete bullshit specifically designed to rile lefties up to vote in the mid-terms and retain D power and control over everyone's lives, via the SCOTUS in this case.

This is exactly the kind of shit that politicians do every single day of every single year; twist stories, cause outrage/anger/high emotions, and profit from it at the polls. They are very good at this game so its zero trouble for them to set something like this up even years in advance - recall they had a protest ready to go before Kavanaugh was even nominated <insert name here> and stuff?

Best wise up kido or they'll be leading you around by the nose for your entire life. Ya know, like Ms. Ford here, who's being used like a tampon and will be flushed very shortly; her life in shambles and none for the wiser of it...

That’s not true. Then FBI can certainly do background checks. They already done 6. This accusation brings new info to light that needs to be vetted. The FBI can easily conduct a couple of interviews and present their findings to congress. You are conflating a background check with a criminal investigation. The White House or congress can request for the FBI to do this at any time

Like I said before kido, you best wisen up and stop letting the media and politicians lead you around by the nose...

On Sunday evening, September 16th, Ford identified herself.

On Monday evening, September 17th, AP relayed the following statement from the DOJ regarding the FBI's involvement (specifically note the bold part and think about what it says):

The Justice Department says the sexual assault allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh "does not involve any potential federal crime" for the FBI to investigate.

The department said in a statement Monday night that the FBI's role during background investigations is to evaluate whether the nominee could pose a national security risk and then provide that information "for the use of the decision makers."

The department says it's not the job of the FBI to judge the significance or the credibility of an accusation.


In the case of Kavanaugh, the FBI received a letter Sept. 12 with allegations of misconduct in the 1980s, when both Kavanaugh and his accuser were teenagers.

The Justice Department says the FBI forwarded the letter to the White House counsel's office.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...kavanaugh-accuser-willing-to-talk-to-congress

I’m not letting anybody lead me around, I’m just using common sense and basic comprehension. You point to an FBI statement regarding a federal crime. I just wrote that you are dishonestly conflating a background check with a criminal investigation, then you post this and do the exact same thing again. It’s called doubling down on dishonesty. Don’t know who you think you’re fooling.

 

[Slade3200]

So you don’t give fuel to the media that will be looking for any reason to disparage your character

Whilst busy disparaging someone else’s on the baisis of no evidence.
Nice.

If she knows it’s true then it isn’t really disparaging, it’s her telling her truth.

Even if true, she knows she has absolutley no evidence, she knows she never reported the incident, she knows she never ever spoke of it to anyone for 30+ years, she knows the SoLs has passed and she knows she will destroy a man’s reputation, his career and possibly his family life on the basis of not being able to prove a thing whilst scrubbing all of her own social media in the process so no one can evaluate her.
Like I said, nice.
Not.

If true I don’t think she really cares about any of that shit. She’s been living with it for 30+ years.

living with an offense you just said isnt that bad.

My judgement on the criminality of an event have nothing to do with the psychological effects it may of had on a victim. I’m no where near qualified to pass judgement on that.

 

[iceberg]

Whilst busy disparaging someone else’s on the baisis of no evidence.
Nice.

If she knows it’s true then it isn’t really disparaging, it’s her telling her truth.

Even if true, she knows she has absolutley no evidence, she knows she never reported the incident, she knows she never ever spoke of it to anyone for 30+ years, she knows the SoLs has passed and she knows she will destroy a man’s reputation, his career and possibly his family life on the basis of not being able to prove a thing whilst scrubbing all of her own social media in the process so no one can evaluate her.
Like I said, nice.
Not.

If true I don’t think she really cares about any of that shit. She’s been living with it for 30+ years.

living with an offense you just said isnt that bad.

My judgement on the criminality of an event have nothing to do with the psychological effects it may of had on a victim. I’m no where near qualified to pass judgement on that.

well my main point is 2 posts ago you said something to the effect of 2 drunks teens rolling around on a bed. your next post was this - she's had to live with it for 30 years.

quite a swap in just (2) posts.