Zone1 do you believe in a god?

[Meriweather]

I've heard all those stories since childhood. Read them again without religious blinders

I wasn't speaking of other Bible stories. As you know, I don't recommend reading, but studying. After one seeks and finds God.

 

[alang1216]

How so? Do you think I come here to make fun of atheists?

Got any examples of me disrespecting theists?

Actually you can see energy. Everything is energy, e=mc^2. You just don't perceive everything as energy. I understand that incorporeal does not mean supernatural. The supernatural is incorporeal though. Information and energy are inseparable as energy contains information and information requires energy. Everything contains information. So how do you know everything isn't just information which is incorporeal? You don't.

We can certainly embed information in electrical energy, as in the telephone, but I don't think that is what you mean. Got a example of information in energy that is not put there by man? Does lightening contain information?

Any time you want to debate my religion in the Bull Ring, I'm more than happy to oblige. Now let's see who the coward is.

Catholicism is a BIG topic and I fear committing too much time to the Ring (where I've never been). Can you narrow the scope?

 

[Meriweather]

Atheists think that they are smart. They actually dumb fools

No, absolutely not.

As a child, I heard we were to love God above everyone else. As I was seeking God, I took this very seriously, and made a list of all those I loved (it was a long list), and there God was, at the bottom. To me, this explained why God spoke to old people like Moses and Abraham. Obviously, it took a long time before loving God rose to the top of anyone's list. As a teen I came face-to-face with another realization. How can someone love another without first coming to know them?

The Baltimore Catechism taught children to know God, love God, and serve God. I asked my atheist family members why they did not believe in God. The reply was consistently the same: They said they just couldn't believe. Kids understand 'can't' because as kids there is quite a lot we are not capable of doing. I believed in God, yet I couldn't love him above all else, and as I couldn't meet him, I couldn't know him.

All the atheists in my family were/are good, intelligent people. The question is (for everything) why can some people do things and others can't? Why can some believe and others can't?

 

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Got any examples of me disrespecting theists?

None you will accept. It’s passive aggressive.

 

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We can certainly embed information in electrical energy, as in the telephone, but I don't think that is what you mean. Got a example of information in energy that is not put there by man? Does lightening contain information?

Everything contains information. Maybe google it? I don’t see a need to convince you.

 

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Catholicism is a BIG topic and I fear committing too much time to the Ring (where I've never been). Can you narrow the scope?

The God of Abraham?

 

[alang1216]

The God of Abraham?

Does he exist or something more specific?

 

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Does he exist or something more specific?

You tell me. You are the one who has the problem.

 

[alang1216]

You tell me. You are the one who has the problem.

I don't have a problem, you are the one who challenged me. I just want to know what I'm being challenged on. Seems only fair or is that not how the Bull Ring works?

 

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I don't have a problem, you are the one who challenged me. I just want to know what I'm being challenged on. Seems only fair or is that not how the Bull Ring works?

But you do have a problem with believing in the God of Abraham. So however you want to state it, I’ll be happy to debate it in the bull ring.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

But you do have a problem with believing in the God of Abraham

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I have evidence for my beliefs.

what evidence do you have that proves Yahweh (mind) chose Abraham and his Tribe as favorites.?

 

[alang1216]

But you do have a problem with believing in the God of Abraham. So however you want to state it, I’ll be happy to debate it in the bull ring.

I suspect we've already been down this path but I'm happy to join you in the ring.

 

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I suspect we've already been down this path but I'm happy to join you in the ring.

Great. What belief of yours are we going to debate?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Another part of this legitimate process is that, you either put your faith to CNN to believe that Biden won, or put your faith to Fox News to believe that Trump won.

Tump did not win’

50 states including those run by Republicans like Georgis’ Wisconsin and Arizona certified their elections in mid December 2021 concluding that Trump’s big lie was nothing more than that a big lie in a plot to hold onto power against the will of the people and the constitution of the United States.

I never watch CNN’

The Republican Party is a lawless party and a lying party.

I am a rational theist, and I believe in the rule of law, which includes Republican president loses an election. He respects the people, and he leaves office without trying to overturn it.

We do not have a king or want a king who has no respect for the law

"The Age of Reason," by Thomas Paine, is a deistic treatise that critiques organized religion, particularly Christianity, and advocates for a belief in God based on reason rather than revelation. Paine argues that the Bible is not divinely inspired but a collection of myths, and that true religious duties involve reason, justice, mercy, and promoting human happiness. He rejects the concept of miracles and divine revelation, emphasizing that God's existence is knowable through observation of nature and reason, not through supernatural claims

 

[Meriweather]

what evidence do you have that proves Yahweh (mind) chose Abraham and his Tribe as favorites.?

Yahweh chose Abraham and his tribe for a specific task; it wasn't about selecting a "favorite". Analogy: Does a parent select the favorite child to perform a grueling task that no one else would consider doing?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Yahweh chose Abraham and his tribe for a specific task; it wasn't about selecting a "favorite". Analogy: Does a parent select the favorite child to perform a grueling task that no one else would consider doing?

Dispensationalism has two primary distinctives: 1) a consistently literal interpretation of Scripture, especially Bible prophecy, and 2) a view of the uniqueness of Israel as separate from the Church in God’s program.

What is the unique reason 50 million Republican Party Christian voters believe that Jewish people are God’s chosen prople?
Christians

 

[BULLDOG]

Dispensationalism has two primary distinctives: 1) a consistently literal interpretation of Scripture, especially Bible prophecy, and 2) a view of the uniqueness of Israel as separate from the Church in God’s program.

What is the unique reason 50 million Republican Party Christian voters believe that Jewish people are God’s chosen prople?
Christians

The reason is that MAGA rhetoric told them such was the case. Before MAGA, that belief was not so widespread among rep party.

 

[Meriweather]

What is the unique reason 50 million Republican Party Christian voters believe that Jewish people are God’s chosen prople?
Christians

That is certainly unique as there are only 36 million registered Republican voters, and less than forty percent of these are fundamental Evangelicals who may or may not hold such a belief.

 

[alang1216]

Great. What belief of yours are we going to debate?

Why I believe the God of Abraham is a myth and why you believe he is real?