Did Trump Incite Insurrection?

[meaner gene]

I'm referring to who started the Q movement itself, not the people at the protest.

Yes, but what hath God wrought?

Gunman in ‘Pizzagate’ Shooting Is Sentenced to 4 Years in Prison (Published 2017)

The man, Edgar Maddison Welch, fired a gun inside the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria in December after reading fake stories about a child abuse scheme led by Hillary Clinton.

www.nytimes.com

A 29-year-old North Carolina man who fired a military-style assault rifle inside a popular Washington pizzeria in December, wrongly believing he was saving children trapped in a sex-slave ring, was sentenced on Thursday to four years in prison.

The conspiracy theories about Comet and a child-trafficking ring quickly spread on online message boards and in YouTube videos in the weeks before the November presidential election.

Qanon's first strike.

 

[meaner gene]

Vote audits of the 2020 election are still in process. Rumors are some definitely serious malfeasance has been found.

The same people telling you that, are the one's who laso claimed proof the 2020 election was stolen.

Until actual proof is produced, you're just clutching at straws.

 

[AntonToo]

Telling supporters to march to the capitol does not mean break into it...not in any language...Even the nations of Germany Spain and France and Canada are warning the dems to not do another impeachment....

“We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

By gosh, who could have ever thought that a call to fight would result in fighting!

I can’t seem to remember one politician who never used the work “fight”.

You probably also can't remember a policitician that kept claiming that he won election in a landlside after losing and then sat back and watched his supporters conduct a violent break into the Capitol.

Vote audits of the 2020 election are still in process. Rumors are some definitely serious malfeasance has been found.

Trump often says stuff that gets ridiculed initially but later proves true. The latest example is that the coronavirus virus came from a lab in Wuhan, China.

Tommorow Tommorow Tommorow it's all I hear from Trumpsters since Biden was declared the winner last November.

They keep talking about lawsuits and recounts that will tommorow show findings of fraud. These come and go, come and go, come and go, with nothing to show for it...except more promises about tommorow from poor dupe Trumpsters that cannot come to terms with very simple reality - Trump lost.

 

[meaner gene]

Tommorow Tommorow Tommorow it's all I hear from Trumpsters since Biden was declared the winner last November.

They keep talking about lawsuits and recounts that will tommorow show findings of fraud. These come and go, come and go, come and go, with nothing to show for it...except more promises from poor dupe Trumpsters that cannot come to terms with very simple reality - Trump lost.

Think about it. The longer they keep up the "voter fraud" story, the longer they can fundraise off it.

It's like the worlds longest running "go fund me" page.

 

[meaner gene]

Trump has raised $207.5 million since Election Day, with a flurry of fundraising appeals focused on election integrity.

Former President Trump pulled in $255.4 million in political donations from his supporters in the eight weeks following the 2020 election, ...

Trump raises $200m for post-election legal battles - BBC News

Trump Campaign Spends $8.8 Million in Effort to Overturn Vote

Quick math quiz. If Trump raised $200 million to challenge the election, and spends $9 million to challenge the election. How much does Trump have left.

 

[Batcat]

Telling supporters to march to the capitol does not mean break into it...not in any language...Even the nations of Germany Spain and France and Canada are warning the dems to not do another impeachment....

“We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

By gosh, who could have ever thought that a call to fight would result in fighting!

I can’t seem to remember one politician who never used the work “fight”.

You probably also can't remember a policitician that kept claiming that he won election in a landlside after losing and then sat back and watched his supporters conduct a violent break into the Capitol.

Vote audits of the 2020 election are still in process. Rumors are some definitely serious malfeasance has been found.

Trump often says stuff that gets ridiculed initially but later proves true. The latest example is that the coronavirus virus came from a lab in Wuhan, China.

Tommorow Tommorow Tommorow it's all I hear from Trumpsters since Biden was declared the winner last November.

They keep talking about lawsuits and recounts that will tommorow show findings of fraud. These come and go, come and go, come and go, with nothing to show for it...except more promises about tommorow from poor dupe Trumpsters that cannot come to terms with very simple reality - Trump lost.

I have no idea how things will work out but I can at least wait until the audits are over.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I guess to you, that means he and his followers didn't give Trump your nazi salute.

And I guess this means you think you're not an idiot...

No, White Supremacist Richard Spencer Didn’t Seriously Endorse Joe Biden

It’s time to stop falling for transparent trolling by neo-Nazis. Here’s how to know when they’re misleading you.

www.tabletmag.com

It means he's a Biden supporter, like all Nazis are.

You dumb cocksucker.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Peaceful...

You may lie a lot, but you're dumb as all fuck.

View attachment 496866

Peaceful...

No one said the riot was entirely peaceful, you dumb cocksucker.

But it was no insurrection and NOTHING like the Kristalnacht the democrat Brown Shirts have engaged in for over a year.

No fires, no fire arms - unlike what the terrorist democrats do every fucking night.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Did Trump Incite Insurrection?

Did Trump Incite Insurrection? by Rachel Alexander (townhall.com)
11 Jan 2021 ~~ By Rachel Alexander
I didn’t really want to write this article since I’ll probably be banned faster from big tech than expected, but as a lawyer whose favorite area of law is constitutional law, I see it as my duty. The left is trying to get rid of President Trump before the end of his term, saying he incited an insurrection in the speech he gave near the White House on January 6. House Democrats have drafted Articles of Impeachment with over 150 sponsors. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi compared Trump’s actions to those of President Nixon’s in Watergate. Dozens of Democrats and some Republicans are also calling on Vice President Mike Pence and the cabinet to remove Trump through the 25th Amendment, saying he is no longer fit for office.
The Articles of Impeachment say Trump shall be removed for treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors under the Fourteenth Amendment, which prohibits the president (as well as the vice president, Congress and state legislators) from engaging in insurrection against the Constitution.
They use a lot of vague, lofty language but are short on specifics. They say he “gravely endangered the security of the United States government.” They claim he “threatened the integrity of the democratic system, interfered with the peaceful transfer of power, and imperiled a coordinate branch of government.” What do they cite as his dangerous words? Saying he won the election by a landslide. He encouraged “imminent lawless action” which “interfered with the peaceful transition of power.” They assert that he will “remain a threat to national security, democracy and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office.”
~Snip~
So let’s look at what Trump actually said. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." This is the opposite of inciting violence. This is speech protected under the First Amendment. In fact, it is the heart of free speech, the right to march in political protest.
As for remaining a threat if he stays in office and thwarting the peaceful transition of power, the Democrats failed to mention in their Articles that after the violence started, Trump tweeted twice denouncing the violence, then followed up with a video denouncing it again. He conceded the election, saying his “focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly and seamless transition of power.”
~Snip~
The left is far more guilty of inciting violence than the president, but they have the MSM behind them to focus all the attention on Trump, and big tech behind them to punish both the president and the right. Big tech is now using the Capitol break-in to speed up the purge of conservatives, attacking us on multiple levels including at the roots of the internet, which I will address how to combat next week.


Comment:
The violence of insurrection were begun by Democrats like Representatives like Waters, Schiff, and especially Pelosi.
Nowhere in President Trump's January 6th speech did he incite the people to assault the Capitol Building.
Neither the Media or the Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrat Left have ever been objective, reasonable or honest in their attitude and reporting the truth or politics. They both have been consumate liars. To Progressive Marxist/DSA Democrat Leftists, the truth is completely irrelevant to them. 90% us will never know what Trump said, but 100% of us will know Democrat politicians and media are 100% sure he must be removed.
IMHO, there is no greater proof that Trump is working against Satan than the Democrats constant irrational, illogical, deceitful attacks on him.
There is no doubt in my mind that the riot of January 6th was a False Flag operation conducted by Antifa/BLM. The was typical to actions of terrorists not the people that were peacefully there to protest..

Did Trump Incite Insurrection?
Anyone who believes he did should prove it in a court of law. Average people are tired of hearing all the strident bullshit rumors. Prove it or STFU.

 

[Lesh]

YES

And he's doing it again

 

[Soupnazi630]

So let’s look at what Trump actually said. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." This is the opposite of inciting violence.

Ooh is that what he said?? Well then nothing to see there...except of course BLATANT INCITEMENT of his zealots to FIGHT for him:


— “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

— “We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

— “Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.” The crowd repeatedly chanted “Fight for Trump!” “Thank you,” Trump said.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump's call to action distorted in debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House impeachment debate on Wednesday heard a distorted account of President Donald Trump's remarks to his supporters a week ago when he exhorted them to “fight like hell" before they swarmed the Capitol.

apnews.com

THE FACTS: Trump’s speech was a call to action — a call to fight and save the country.

Using the word fight is not incitement. Every politician uses such language as struggle or fight against or for something or other.

The DNC uses the word all over their platform.

Party Platform - Democrats

Every four years, Democrats from across the country join together to craft our party’s platform. The platform is created to uplift working people and write out the values that will guide our party for years to come.

democrats.org

So by your logic the DNC is guilty of inciting the ongoing deadly riots by BLM and ANTIFA

It';s incitement - you look at what Trump said and did in totality and it's clear as day incitement.

10 House Republicans voted to impeach him for it. McCarthy said president is has responsibility for Jan 6th. McConnel said the same.

And then there is you, living in a fucking denial.

...so do you agree with his assertion that the DNC is also guilty of incitement? When considering the fact that multiple Democrats have funded bail for various Antifa/BLM rioters that were apprehended over assault and destruction of property, that's worse than incitement.

Which Democrats funded bail?

~~~~~~
The following Democrats are contributors to the bail fund organizations for Antifa and BLM...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went on Twitter to announce she, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley were raising $50,000 for the groups.
Even Vice-Presidential candidate Kamala Harris has promoted the "Minneapolis Freedom Fund"(MFF), who redirected donations to the Black Visions Collective and has bailed out defendants from Twin Cities jails charged with murder, violent felonies, and sex crimes.
Needless to say that the bulk of the funds come from Soros organizations.

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.reuters.com

​

They fund bail programs because of a belief in racial inequity, which means black people have less means to post bail.

It doesn't get ANYONE off for any crime. It doesn't grant favor with the legal system. To say that supporting these bail programs is somehow equivalent of inciting an insurection against the Congress of the United States of America is to have you head way up your ass.

These massive denials and false equivalency excercises are but rationalizations to avoid admitting the obvious - Trump didn't win, he is too pathetic to admit it, so he lies lies lies about it. His rhetoric caused the attack on the Capitol and will continue to damage this great country at home and abroad.

Shame on all of you usefull idiots for pushing these lies along.

You use "useful idiot" a lot without realizing that the real enemy are the feds themselves. They work for K Street, not you or me.

The only problem with supporting Trump is believing that he could "drain the swamp." That clearly was a fantasy.

As much as you guys freak out over the weakest "insurrection" ever seen, you should be more concerned about the monster that is our federal government. They've been the enemy of the common citizen for decades now.

You clearly don't understand the fire that Trump is playing with as he spreads his self serving lies.

When people do not belive in electoral system to settle political diputes they start to take to violence to achieve their goals.

Jan 6th was not the end, it was but mild preview of where these lieas are going to take us. Just a preview of what will be once this country gives up the priciples of peaceful transfer of power.

And what do you think the Floyd protests were? What do you think the protests that have happened in Portland for almost a year now were?

That ship has sailed. All the pandemic did was show America's true colors. The left had their riots first, and then the right had one that apparently freaked a lot of people out, despite being pretty tame compared to Minneapolis, Portland, or Kenosha.

Violence is here and more will come. That's not Trump's fault. That's just where our society was headed with or without Trump, although years of the media pushing identity politics didn't help.

If the end result is breaking the country into multiple parts, I'm fine with that. It needs to happen anyway.

Unlike storming the Capitol on Insurrection Day, none of the BLM riots threatened our democracy.

They most certianly did by establishing CHAZ which was by definition a violent insurrection against government

 

[Soupnazi630]

Telling supporters to march to the capitol does not mean break into it...not in any language...Even the nations of Germany Spain and France and Canada are warning the dems to not do another impeachment....

“We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

By gosh, who could have ever thought that a call to fight would result in fighting!

I can’t seem to remember one politician who never used the work “fight”.

And which ones inspired a fight?

Already proven that DNC did so as much as Trump did. Their use of the word fight inspired BLM/ANTIFA to commit violent insurrection.

 

[Soupnazi630]

So let’s look at what Trump actually said. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." This is the opposite of inciting violence.

Ooh is that what he said?? Well then nothing to see there...except of course BLATANT INCITEMENT of his zealots to FIGHT for him:


— “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

— “We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

— “Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.” The crowd repeatedly chanted “Fight for Trump!” “Thank you,” Trump said.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump's call to action distorted in debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House impeachment debate on Wednesday heard a distorted account of President Donald Trump's remarks to his supporters a week ago when he exhorted them to “fight like hell" before they swarmed the Capitol.

apnews.com

THE FACTS: Trump’s speech was a call to action — a call to fight and save the country.

Using the word fight is not incitement. Every politician uses such language as struggle or fight against or for something or other.

The DNC uses the word all over their platform.

Party Platform - Democrats

Every four years, Democrats from across the country join together to craft our party’s platform. The platform is created to uplift working people and write out the values that will guide our party for years to come.

democrats.org

So by your logic the DNC is guilty of inciting the ongoing deadly riots by BLM and ANTIFA

It';s incitement - you look at what Trump said and did in totality and it's clear as day incitement.

10 House Republicans voted to impeach him for it. McCarthy said president is has responsibility for Jan 6th. McConnel said the same.

And then there is you, living in a fucking denial.

...so do you agree with his assertion that the DNC is also guilty of incitement? When considering the fact that multiple Democrats have funded bail for various Antifa/BLM rioters that were apprehended over assault and destruction of property, that's worse than incitement.

Which Democrats funded bail?

~~~~~~
The following Democrats are contributors to the bail fund organizations for Antifa and BLM...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went on Twitter to announce she, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley were raising $50,000 for the groups.
Even Vice-Presidential candidate Kamala Harris has promoted the "Minneapolis Freedom Fund"(MFF), who redirected donations to the Black Visions Collective and has bailed out defendants from Twin Cities jails charged with murder, violent felonies, and sex crimes.
Needless to say that the bulk of the funds come from Soros organizations.

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.reuters.com

​

They fund bail programs because of a belief in racial inequity, which means black people have less means to post bail.

It doesn't get ANYONE off for any crime. It doesn't grant favor with the legal system. To say that supporting these bail programs is somehow equivalent of inciting an insurection against the Congress of the United States of America is to have you head way up your ass.

These massive denials and false equivalency excercises are but rationalizations to avoid admitting the obvious - Trump didn't win, he is too pathetic to admit it, so he lies lies lies about it. His rhetoric caused the attack on the Capitol and will continue to damage this great country at home and abroad.

Shame on all of you usefull idiots for pushing these lies along.

You use "useful idiot" a lot without realizing that the real enemy are the feds themselves. They work for K Street, not you or me.

The only problem with supporting Trump is believing that he could "drain the swamp." That clearly was a fantasy.

As much as you guys freak out over the weakest "insurrection" ever seen, you should be more concerned about the monster that is our federal government. They've been the enemy of the common citizen for decades now.

You clearly don't understand the fire that Trump is playing with as he spreads his self serving lies.

When people do not belive in electoral system to settle political diputes they start to take to violence to achieve their goals.

Jan 6th was not the end, it was but mild preview of where these lieas are going to take us. Just a preview of what will be once this country gives up the priciples of peaceful transfer of power.

And what do you think the Floyd protests were? What do you think the protests that have happened in Portland for almost a year now were?

That ship has sailed. All the pandemic did was show America's true colors. The left had their riots first, and then the right had one that apparently freaked a lot of people out, despite being pretty tame compared to Minneapolis, Portland, or Kenosha.

Violence is here and more will come. That's not Trump's fault. That's just where our society was headed with or without Trump, although years of the media pushing identity politics didn't help.

If the end result is breaking the country into multiple parts, I'm fine with that. It needs to happen anyway.

Unlike storming the Capitol on Insurrection Day, none of the BLM riots threatened our democracy.

We don't have a democracy. We have a plutocratic republic.

Nonsense, we have a representative democracy

democracy​

​

a: government by the people​

especially : rule of the majority​

​

b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections​

In theory, yes. In practice, corporate money makes the process a charade.

Most of the time, both parties serve the same masters, with a few social issues each side panders to in order to provide the illusion of choice.

Regardless, we're a representative democracy which also means we the people have the right to vote against any of them who represent us if we don't feel their acting in our best interest.

But semantics aside, Insurrection Day was an assault on our democracy. BLM riots, as abhorrent as they were, were not.

LIAR

It is proven they were indeed assaults on our republic.

 

[Soupnazi630]

So let’s look at what Trump actually said. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." This is the opposite of inciting violence.

Ooh is that what he said?? Well then nothing to see there...except of course BLATANT INCITEMENT of his zealots to FIGHT for him:


— “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

— “We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

— “Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.” The crowd repeatedly chanted “Fight for Trump!” “Thank you,” Trump said.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump's call to action distorted in debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House impeachment debate on Wednesday heard a distorted account of President Donald Trump's remarks to his supporters a week ago when he exhorted them to “fight like hell" before they swarmed the Capitol.

apnews.com

THE FACTS: Trump’s speech was a call to action — a call to fight and save the country.

Using the word fight is not incitement. Every politician uses such language as struggle or fight against or for something or other.

The DNC uses the word all over their platform.

Party Platform - Democrats

Every four years, Democrats from across the country join together to craft our party’s platform. The platform is created to uplift working people and write out the values that will guide our party for years to come.

democrats.org

So by your logic the DNC is guilty of inciting the ongoing deadly riots by BLM and ANTIFA

It';s incitement - you look at what Trump said and did in totality and it's clear as day incitement.

10 House Republicans voted to impeach him for it. McCarthy said president is has responsibility for Jan 6th. McConnel said the same.

And then there is you, living in a fucking denial.

...so do you agree with his assertion that the DNC is also guilty of incitement? When considering the fact that multiple Democrats have funded bail for various Antifa/BLM rioters that were apprehended over assault and destruction of property, that's worse than incitement.

Which Democrats funded bail?

~~~~~~
The following Democrats are contributors to the bail fund organizations for Antifa and BLM...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went on Twitter to announce she, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley were raising $50,000 for the groups.
Even Vice-Presidential candidate Kamala Harris has promoted the "Minneapolis Freedom Fund"(MFF), who redirected donations to the Black Visions Collective and has bailed out defendants from Twin Cities jails charged with murder, violent felonies, and sex crimes.
Needless to say that the bulk of the funds come from Soros organizations.

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.reuters.com

​

They fund bail programs because of a belief in racial inequity, which means black people have less means to post bail.

It doesn't get ANYONE off for any crime. It doesn't grant favor with the legal system. To say that supporting these bail programs is somehow equivalent of inciting an insurection against the Congress of the United States of America is to have you head way up your ass.

These massive denials and false equivalency excercises are but rationalizations to avoid admitting the obvious - Trump didn't win, he is too pathetic to admit it, so he lies lies lies about it. His rhetoric caused the attack on the Capitol and will continue to damage this great country at home and abroad.

Shame on all of you usefull idiots for pushing these lies along.

You use "useful idiot" a lot without realizing that the real enemy are the feds themselves. They work for K Street, not you or me.

The only problem with supporting Trump is believing that he could "drain the swamp." That clearly was a fantasy.

As much as you guys freak out over the weakest "insurrection" ever seen, you should be more concerned about the monster that is our federal government. They've been the enemy of the common citizen for decades now.

You clearly don't understand the fire that Trump is playing with as he spreads his self serving lies.

When people do not belive in electoral system to settle political diputes they start to take to violence to achieve their goals.

Jan 6th was not the end, it was but mild preview of where these lieas are going to take us. Just a preview of what will be once this country gives up the priciples of peaceful transfer of power.

And what do you think the Floyd protests were?

Floyd protests did not target government and had nothing to do with the principles of transfer of power in any shape or form.

What the fuck are you smoking?

The principle behind rioting during a protest is that you are using violence to fight the system. The Floyd protesters were targeting the local system. That might not be the same as targeting the feds, but it's the same principle of losing trust in the system.

So, clearly, your side still has faith in the federal system. I put more faith in my local system.

Floyd protesters did not target any system, they were prosteting and rioting to show disatisfaction with the policing, and in some cases out of plain criminal intent to steal shit out of some stores.

You trying to roll them up into the same category as an attack on the Capitol to halt the certification of an election is just plain stupid nonsense.

You are posting lies and hypocrisy.

BLM and ANTIFA violently established chaz which was an insurrection and overthrow of government

That is FACT now suck on it and stop lying

 

[AntonToo]

So let’s look at what Trump actually said. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." This is the opposite of inciting violence.

Ooh is that what he said?? Well then nothing to see there...except of course BLATANT INCITEMENT of his zealots to FIGHT for him:


— “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

— “We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

— “Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.” The crowd repeatedly chanted “Fight for Trump!” “Thank you,” Trump said.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump's call to action distorted in debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House impeachment debate on Wednesday heard a distorted account of President Donald Trump's remarks to his supporters a week ago when he exhorted them to “fight like hell" before they swarmed the Capitol.

apnews.com

THE FACTS: Trump’s speech was a call to action — a call to fight and save the country.

Using the word fight is not incitement. Every politician uses such language as struggle or fight against or for something or other.

The DNC uses the word all over their platform.

Party Platform - Democrats

Every four years, Democrats from across the country join together to craft our party’s platform. The platform is created to uplift working people and write out the values that will guide our party for years to come.

democrats.org

So by your logic the DNC is guilty of inciting the ongoing deadly riots by BLM and ANTIFA

It';s incitement - you look at what Trump said and did in totality and it's clear as day incitement.

10 House Republicans voted to impeach him for it. McCarthy said president is has responsibility for Jan 6th. McConnel said the same.

And then there is you, living in a fucking denial.

...so do you agree with his assertion that the DNC is also guilty of incitement? When considering the fact that multiple Democrats have funded bail for various Antifa/BLM rioters that were apprehended over assault and destruction of property, that's worse than incitement.

Which Democrats funded bail?

~~~~~~
The following Democrats are contributors to the bail fund organizations for Antifa and BLM...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went on Twitter to announce she, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley were raising $50,000 for the groups.
Even Vice-Presidential candidate Kamala Harris has promoted the "Minneapolis Freedom Fund"(MFF), who redirected donations to the Black Visions Collective and has bailed out defendants from Twin Cities jails charged with murder, violent felonies, and sex crimes.
Needless to say that the bulk of the funds come from Soros organizations.

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.reuters.com

​

They fund bail programs because of a belief in racial inequity, which means black people have less means to post bail.

It doesn't get ANYONE off for any crime. It doesn't grant favor with the legal system. To say that supporting these bail programs is somehow equivalent of inciting an insurection against the Congress of the United States of America is to have you head way up your ass.

These massive denials and false equivalency excercises are but rationalizations to avoid admitting the obvious - Trump didn't win, he is too pathetic to admit it, so he lies lies lies about it. His rhetoric caused the attack on the Capitol and will continue to damage this great country at home and abroad.

Shame on all of you usefull idiots for pushing these lies along.

You use "useful idiot" a lot without realizing that the real enemy are the feds themselves. They work for K Street, not you or me.

The only problem with supporting Trump is believing that he could "drain the swamp." That clearly was a fantasy.

As much as you guys freak out over the weakest "insurrection" ever seen, you should be more concerned about the monster that is our federal government. They've been the enemy of the common citizen for decades now.

You clearly don't understand the fire that Trump is playing with as he spreads his self serving lies.

When people do not belive in electoral system to settle political diputes they start to take to violence to achieve their goals.

Jan 6th was not the end, it was but mild preview of where these lieas are going to take us. Just a preview of what will be once this country gives up the priciples of peaceful transfer of power.

And what do you think the Floyd protests were?

Floyd protests did not target government and had nothing to do with the principles of transfer of power in any shape or form.

What the fuck are you smoking?

The principle behind rioting during a protest is that you are using violence to fight the system. The Floyd protesters were targeting the local system. That might not be the same as targeting the feds, but it's the same principle of losing trust in the system.

So, clearly, your side still has faith in the federal system. I put more faith in my local system.

Floyd protesters did not target any system, they were prosteting and rioting to show disatisfaction with the policing, and in some cases out of plain criminal intent to steal shit out of some stores.

You trying to roll them up into the same category as an attack on the Capitol to halt the certification of an election is just plain stupid nonsense.

You are posting lies and hypocrisy.

BLM and ANTIFA violently established chaz which was an insurrection and overthrow of government

That is FACT now suck on it and stop lying

damn man, you went full retard.

There has been no serious domestic attack against the government except the Jan 6th insurection with specific goals of stoping election certification.

 

[Doc7505]

So let’s look at what Trump actually said. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." This is the opposite of inciting violence.

Ooh is that what he said?? Well then nothing to see there...except of course BLATANT INCITEMENT of his zealots to FIGHT for him:


— “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

— “We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

— “Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.” The crowd repeatedly chanted “Fight for Trump!” “Thank you,” Trump said.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump's call to action distorted in debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House impeachment debate on Wednesday heard a distorted account of President Donald Trump's remarks to his supporters a week ago when he exhorted them to “fight like hell" before they swarmed the Capitol.

apnews.com

THE FACTS: Trump’s speech was a call to action — a call to fight and save the country.

Using the word fight is not incitement. Every politician uses such language as struggle or fight against or for something or other.

The DNC uses the word all over their platform.

Party Platform - Democrats

Every four years, Democrats from across the country join together to craft our party’s platform. The platform is created to uplift working people and write out the values that will guide our party for years to come.

democrats.org

So by your logic the DNC is guilty of inciting the ongoing deadly riots by BLM and ANTIFA

It';s incitement - you look at what Trump said and did in totality and it's clear as day incitement.

10 House Republicans voted to impeach him for it. McCarthy said president is has responsibility for Jan 6th. McConnel said the same.

And then there is you, living in a fucking denial.

...so do you agree with his assertion that the DNC is also guilty of incitement? When considering the fact that multiple Democrats have funded bail for various Antifa/BLM rioters that were apprehended over assault and destruction of property, that's worse than incitement.

Which Democrats funded bail?

~~~~~~
The following Democrats are contributors to the bail fund organizations for Antifa and BLM...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went on Twitter to announce she, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley were raising $50,000 for the groups.
Even Vice-Presidential candidate Kamala Harris has promoted the "Minneapolis Freedom Fund"(MFF), who redirected donations to the Black Visions Collective and has bailed out defendants from Twin Cities jails charged with murder, violent felonies, and sex crimes.
Needless to say that the bulk of the funds come from Soros organizations.

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.reuters.com

​

They fund bail programs because of a belief in racial inequity, which means black people have less means to post bail.

It doesn't get ANYONE off for any crime. It doesn't grant favor with the legal system. To say that supporting these bail programs is somehow equivalent of inciting an insurection against the Congress of the United States of America is to have you head way up your ass.

These massive denials and false equivalency excercises are but rationalizations to avoid admitting the obvious - Trump didn't win, he is too pathetic to admit it, so he lies lies lies about it. His rhetoric caused the attack on the Capitol and will continue to damage this great country at home and abroad.

Shame on all of you usefull idiots for pushing these lies along.

You use "useful idiot" a lot without realizing that the real enemy are the feds themselves. They work for K Street, not you or me.

The only problem with supporting Trump is believing that he could "drain the swamp." That clearly was a fantasy.

As much as you guys freak out over the weakest "insurrection" ever seen, you should be more concerned about the monster that is our federal government. They've been the enemy of the common citizen for decades now.

You clearly don't understand the fire that Trump is playing with as he spreads his self serving lies.

When people do not belive in electoral system to settle political diputes they start to take to violence to achieve their goals.

Jan 6th was not the end, it was but mild preview of where these lieas are going to take us. Just a preview of what will be once this country gives up the priciples of peaceful transfer of power.

And what do you think the Floyd protests were?

Floyd protests did not target government and had nothing to do with the principles of transfer of power in any shape or form.

What the fuck are you smoking?

The principle behind rioting during a protest is that you are using violence to fight the system. The Floyd protesters were targeting the local system. That might not be the same as targeting the feds, but it's the same principle of losing trust in the system.

So, clearly, your side still has faith in the federal system. I put more faith in my local system.

Floyd protesters did not target any system, they were prosteting and rioting to show disatisfaction with the policing, and in some cases out of plain criminal intent to steal shit out of some stores.

You trying to roll them up into the same category as an attack on the Capitol to halt the certification of an election is just plain stupid nonsense.

You are posting lies and hypocrisy.

BLM and ANTIFA violently established chaz which was an insurrection and overthrow of government

That is FACT now suck on it and stop lying

damn man, you went full retard.

There has been no serious domestic attack against the government except the Jan 6th insurection with specific goals of stoping election certification.

Bull Crap right after the protest of Jan 6th, the BLM/Antifa attempted to fire bomb the federal building in Portland again.

Wayne Dupree

Wayne Dupree political stories

www.waynedupree.com

​

 

[Soupnazi630]

So let’s look at what Trump actually said. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." This is the opposite of inciting violence.

Ooh is that what he said?? Well then nothing to see there...except of course BLATANT INCITEMENT of his zealots to FIGHT for him:


— “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

— “We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

— “Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.” The crowd repeatedly chanted “Fight for Trump!” “Thank you,” Trump said.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump's call to action distorted in debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House impeachment debate on Wednesday heard a distorted account of President Donald Trump's remarks to his supporters a week ago when he exhorted them to “fight like hell" before they swarmed the Capitol.

apnews.com

THE FACTS: Trump’s speech was a call to action — a call to fight and save the country.

Using the word fight is not incitement. Every politician uses such language as struggle or fight against or for something or other.

The DNC uses the word all over their platform.

Party Platform - Democrats

Every four years, Democrats from across the country join together to craft our party’s platform. The platform is created to uplift working people and write out the values that will guide our party for years to come.

democrats.org

So by your logic the DNC is guilty of inciting the ongoing deadly riots by BLM and ANTIFA

It';s incitement - you look at what Trump said and did in totality and it's clear as day incitement.

10 House Republicans voted to impeach him for it. McCarthy said president is has responsibility for Jan 6th. McConnel said the same.

And then there is you, living in a fucking denial.

...so do you agree with his assertion that the DNC is also guilty of incitement? When considering the fact that multiple Democrats have funded bail for various Antifa/BLM rioters that were apprehended over assault and destruction of property, that's worse than incitement.

Which Democrats funded bail?

~~~~~~
The following Democrats are contributors to the bail fund organizations for Antifa and BLM...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went on Twitter to announce she, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley were raising $50,000 for the groups.
Even Vice-Presidential candidate Kamala Harris has promoted the "Minneapolis Freedom Fund"(MFF), who redirected donations to the Black Visions Collective and has bailed out defendants from Twin Cities jails charged with murder, violent felonies, and sex crimes.
Needless to say that the bulk of the funds come from Soros organizations.

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.reuters.com

​

They fund bail programs because of a belief in racial inequity, which means black people have less means to post bail.

It doesn't get ANYONE off for any crime. It doesn't grant favor with the legal system. To say that supporting these bail programs is somehow equivalent of inciting an insurection against the Congress of the United States of America is to have you head way up your ass.

These massive denials and false equivalency excercises are but rationalizations to avoid admitting the obvious - Trump didn't win, he is too pathetic to admit it, so he lies lies lies about it. His rhetoric caused the attack on the Capitol and will continue to damage this great country at home and abroad.

Shame on all of you usefull idiots for pushing these lies along.

You use "useful idiot" a lot without realizing that the real enemy are the feds themselves. They work for K Street, not you or me.

The only problem with supporting Trump is believing that he could "drain the swamp." That clearly was a fantasy.

As much as you guys freak out over the weakest "insurrection" ever seen, you should be more concerned about the monster that is our federal government. They've been the enemy of the common citizen for decades now.

You clearly don't understand the fire that Trump is playing with as he spreads his self serving lies.

When people do not belive in electoral system to settle political diputes they start to take to violence to achieve their goals.

Jan 6th was not the end, it was but mild preview of where these lieas are going to take us. Just a preview of what will be once this country gives up the priciples of peaceful transfer of power.

And what do you think the Floyd protests were?

Floyd protests did not target government and had nothing to do with the principles of transfer of power in any shape or form.

What the fuck are you smoking?

The principle behind rioting during a protest is that you are using violence to fight the system. The Floyd protesters were targeting the local system. That might not be the same as targeting the feds, but it's the same principle of losing trust in the system.

So, clearly, your side still has faith in the federal system. I put more faith in my local system.

Floyd protesters did not target any system, they were prosteting and rioting to show disatisfaction with the policing, and in some cases out of plain criminal intent to steal shit out of some stores.

You trying to roll them up into the same category as an attack on the Capitol to halt the certification of an election is just plain stupid nonsense.

You are posting lies and hypocrisy.

BLM and ANTIFA violently established chaz which was an insurrection and overthrow of government

That is FACT now suck on it and stop lying

damn man, you went full retard.

There has been no serious domestic attack against the government except the Jan 6th insurection with specific goals of stoping election certification.

You are a liar,

CHAZ was precisely an attack on government and a violent insurrection against the governnment whiuch briefly succeeded. It even had the open support of some democrats.

Those are facts nmo matter how much of a two faced liar you wish to be ignoring it.

Disgusting hypocrites like you are proven to be full of shit

 

[AntonToo]

Trump has raised $207.5 million since Election Day, with a flurry of fundraising appeals focused on election integrity.

Former President Trump pulled in $255.4 million in political donations from his supporters in the eight weeks following the 2020 election, ...

Trump raises $200m for post-election legal battles - BBC News

Trump Campaign Spends $8.8 Million in Effort to Overturn Vote

Quick math quiz. If Trump raised $200 million to challenge the election, and spends $9 million to challenge the election. How much does Trump have left.

Math or any other serious analysis is not their forte.

Telling supporters to march to the capitol does not mean break into it...not in any language...Even the nations of Germany Spain and France and Canada are warning the dems to not do another impeachment....

“We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

By gosh, who could have ever thought that a call to fight would result in fighting!

I can’t seem to remember one politician who never used the work “fight”.

You probably also can't remember a policitician that kept claiming that he won election in a landlside after losing and then sat back and watched his supporters conduct a violent break into the Capitol.

Vote audits of the 2020 election are still in process. Rumors are some definitely serious malfeasance has been found.

Trump often says stuff that gets ridiculed initially but later proves true. The latest example is that the coronavirus virus came from a lab in Wuhan, China.

Tommorow Tommorow Tommorow it's all I hear from Trumpsters since Biden was declared the winner last November.

They keep talking about lawsuits and recounts that will tommorow show findings of fraud. These come and go, come and go, come and go, with nothing to show for it...except more promises about tommorow from poor dupe Trumpsters that cannot come to terms with very simple reality - Trump lost.

I have no idea how things will work out but I can at least wait until the audits are over.

Sure sure, and then you'll be waiting for something, ANYTHING to not simply conclude that Trump has in fact lost the election last year and has been lying to his dupes about winning it ever since.

 

[Chillicothe]

"........ should prove it in a court of law. Average people are tired of hearing all the strident bullshit rumors. Prove it or STFU."

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deja vu all over again?
That response was so reminiscent of many other responses addressing the claim of a fraudulent/stolen/rigged election.
Prove it or STFU.
---------------

Now, more germane to this thread: I don't think, at this time, Trump will be charged with insurrection. The Dems impeached him on it, and through jury nullification he escaped conviction.

Now, if some private party.....an injured cop, or bystander, etc. ...... files suit against him for negligently causing developments that led to harm or injury, well, that's a different matter (caveat: I ain't no lawyer).

 

[Faun]

So let’s look at what Trump actually said. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." This is the opposite of inciting violence.

Ooh is that what he said?? Well then nothing to see there...except of course BLATANT INCITEMENT of his zealots to FIGHT for him:


— “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

— “We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

— “Nobody knows what the hell is going on. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen.” The crowd repeatedly chanted “Fight for Trump!” “Thank you,” Trump said.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump's call to action distorted in debate

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House impeachment debate on Wednesday heard a distorted account of President Donald Trump's remarks to his supporters a week ago when he exhorted them to “fight like hell" before they swarmed the Capitol.

apnews.com

THE FACTS: Trump’s speech was a call to action — a call to fight and save the country.

Using the word fight is not incitement. Every politician uses such language as struggle or fight against or for something or other.

The DNC uses the word all over their platform.

Party Platform - Democrats

Every four years, Democrats from across the country join together to craft our party’s platform. The platform is created to uplift working people and write out the values that will guide our party for years to come.

democrats.org

So by your logic the DNC is guilty of inciting the ongoing deadly riots by BLM and ANTIFA

It';s incitement - you look at what Trump said and did in totality and it's clear as day incitement.

10 House Republicans voted to impeach him for it. McCarthy said president is has responsibility for Jan 6th. McConnel said the same.

And then there is you, living in a fucking denial.

...so do you agree with his assertion that the DNC is also guilty of incitement? When considering the fact that multiple Democrats have funded bail for various Antifa/BLM rioters that were apprehended over assault and destruction of property, that's worse than incitement.

Which Democrats funded bail?

~~~~~~
The following Democrats are contributors to the bail fund organizations for Antifa and BLM...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went on Twitter to announce she, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley were raising $50,000 for the groups.
Even Vice-Presidential candidate Kamala Harris has promoted the "Minneapolis Freedom Fund"(MFF), who redirected donations to the Black Visions Collective and has bailed out defendants from Twin Cities jails charged with murder, violent felonies, and sex crimes.
Needless to say that the bulk of the funds come from Soros organizations.

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.reuters.com

​

They fund bail programs because of a belief in racial inequity, which means black people have less means to post bail.

It doesn't get ANYONE off for any crime. It doesn't grant favor with the legal system. To say that supporting these bail programs is somehow equivalent of inciting an insurection against the Congress of the United States of America is to have you head way up your ass.

These massive denials and false equivalency excercises are but rationalizations to avoid admitting the obvious - Trump didn't win, he is too pathetic to admit it, so he lies lies lies about it. His rhetoric caused the attack on the Capitol and will continue to damage this great country at home and abroad.

Shame on all of you usefull idiots for pushing these lies along.

You use "useful idiot" a lot without realizing that the real enemy are the feds themselves. They work for K Street, not you or me.

The only problem with supporting Trump is believing that he could "drain the swamp." That clearly was a fantasy.

As much as you guys freak out over the weakest "insurrection" ever seen, you should be more concerned about the monster that is our federal government. They've been the enemy of the common citizen for decades now.

You clearly don't understand the fire that Trump is playing with as he spreads his self serving lies.

When people do not belive in electoral system to settle political diputes they start to take to violence to achieve their goals.

Jan 6th was not the end, it was but mild preview of where these lieas are going to take us. Just a preview of what will be once this country gives up the priciples of peaceful transfer of power.

And what do you think the Floyd protests were? What do you think the protests that have happened in Portland for almost a year now were?

That ship has sailed. All the pandemic did was show America's true colors. The left had their riots first, and then the right had one that apparently freaked a lot of people out, despite being pretty tame compared to Minneapolis, Portland, or Kenosha.

Violence is here and more will come. That's not Trump's fault. That's just where our society was headed with or without Trump, although years of the media pushing identity politics didn't help.

If the end result is breaking the country into multiple parts, I'm fine with that. It needs to happen anyway.

Unlike storming the Capitol on Insurrection Day, none of the BLM riots threatened our democracy.

We don't have a democracy. We have a plutocratic republic.

Nonsense, we have a representative democracy

democracy​

​

a: government by the people​

especially : rule of the majority​

​

b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections​

In theory, yes. In practice, corporate money makes the process a charade.

Most of the time, both parties serve the same masters, with a few social issues each side panders to in order to provide the illusion of choice.

Regardless, we're a representative democracy which also means we the people have the right to vote against any of them who represent us if we don't feel their acting in our best interest.

But semantics aside, Insurrection Day was an assault on our democracy. BLM riots, as abhorrent as they were, were not.

"Insurrection Day" was just a psyop used on gullible people -- both the protesters themselves and the people freaked out over it.

DC represents oligarchy, not democracy.

LOL

Oh? Who do you think carried it out?

Q was probably some spook employed by any one of the various organizations that our government uses to mindfuck the public. This is the same government that did MK Ultra and Operation Mockingbird. And thanks to Snowden, we know the vast surveillance resources they have.

An actual insurrection would look more like what the Puerto Rican Nationalists did to the Capitol in the 50s.

Umm, the perps are confessing.

The people at the protest that were apprehended, sure. I'm talking about who started the Q movement. The whole ideology behind it is very convenient to establishment interests.

The protest itself worked wonders on getting a lot of the public to unite in favor of the government, because they apparently don't realize the feds don't serve them. They still think the feds are on their side. They aren't. They don't care about us or our interests, but the sheep will clamor in support of them nonetheless.

We know who Q is. And neither he nor his dad were spooks.

Q&A: Documentary Unravels Twisted Knots Of QAnon Movement

Cullen Hoback followed the growth of QAnon for three years. He speaks with NPR about the dangerous conspiracy theory and his six-part series on HBO.

www.npr.org

And Epstein killed himself too.

Diverting again?

I don't even know why I waste my time with you.

LOLOL

Diverting is the waste of time. If you really cared about your time, you'd stop doing it.