Democrats and the Abortion Issue

[progressive hunter]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31057" data-quote="JoeB131" data-source="post: 34395209" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34395209" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34395209">JoeB131 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Nope, some women pick having a baby, some pick to end an unwanted pregnancy.<br /> <br /> It&#039;s kind of stupid for a couple of people named &quot;Joe&quot; and &quot;Robert&quot; to discuss what women SHOULD do with their bodies. If making babies were left up to the men, the birthrate would drop. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>why do you say end the pregnancy instead of what theyre really doing which is killing their child??<br /> <br /> and that child is not her body,,,</div>

 

[Robert W]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31057" data-quote="JoeB131" data-source="post: 34395209" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34395209" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34395209">JoeB131 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Nope, some women pick having a baby, some pick to end an unwanted pregnancy.<br /> <br /> It&#039;s kind of stupid for a couple of people named &quot;Joe&quot; and &quot;Robert&quot; to discuss what women SHOULD do with their bodies. If making babies were left up to the men, the birthrate would drop. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Do you understand her concequences though? She made a choice. She committed crimes in some states, yet others approve her abortion. But she lives with the consequences forever.</div>

 

[Zincwarrior]

<div class="bbWrapper">Whats the old joke. If men could get pregnant there would be Planned Parenthoods on every street corner?</div>

 

[progressive hunter]

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[skews13]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 36589" data-quote="DGS49" data-source="post: 34381095" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34381095" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34381095">DGS49 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="4114104" data-url="https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/arizona-abortion-republicans/" data-host="www.thenation.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/GettyImages-2056670259.jpg" alt="www.thenation.com" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/arizona-abortion-republicans/" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> Republicans Are in Damage Control Mode Over Abortion </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">Arizona’s 1864 abortion law has local party leaders flailing to avoid alienating voters.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/n-logo.png" alt="www.thenation.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.thenation.com </div> </div> </div> </div> <br /> To those of us with three-digit IQ&#039;s, the <b><i>Dobbs</i></b> decision took abortion off the table as a FEDERAL issue. It is a matter for the States to decide, period. In fact, if Congress passed a law trying to establish a Federal/National position on abortion, &quot;we&quot; all know that law would be nullified as unconstitutional as quickly as a case could be brought and appealed up through the Federal court pyramid.<br /> <br /> But look at what has happened in recent months. Our Addled President has openly stated that if he were permitted to do so, he would pass just such an unconstitutional law to &quot;protect a woman&#039;s so-called Right to Choose.&quot; And although we all know that he is no Constitutional scholar, even he knows that is bullshit.<br /> <br /> Democrat (Biden) television ads have grotesquely painted a picture of some woman rushing to an out-of-state abortion clinic being stopped by police and forced to do a pregnancy test. [A pox on the house of every Leftist who was involved in any way with that abortion of an ad].<br /> <br /> Clearly, the Democrats are determined to make this non-issue their biggest pitch in the coming general election campaign.<br /> <br /> What can you say about this? They are knowingly focusing on something they know the President can literally do NOTHING about, in the hope that their voters are too ignorant to realize it.<br /> <br /> And of course, the Media, far from pointing out Democrat duplicity, are constantly posting articles and opinion pieces that support this false Narrative of Biden &quot;protecting abortion rights.&quot;<br /> <br /> Sometimes I think the Left is stupid, but in this case, I think it&#039;s evil. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Wrong. Don’t know how the government works?<br /> <br /> Only Congress has the power to pass laws. <br /> <br /> Period. <br /> <br /> If the House passes a reproductive rights bill, it passes in the Senate, and the President signs it. That is the law of the land. <br /> <br /> And the Supremacy Clause means that new federal law over rides any state restrictions that would interfere with its implementation.<br /> <br /> Period.<br /> <br /> And the most corrupt court ever n American history has no say in the matter.<br /> <br /> Hope I was able to clear that up for you.</div>

 

[HeyNorm]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 72652" data-quote="Winco" data-source="post: 34393879" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34393879" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34393879">Winco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You should run for office with that platform. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I’d win. People would say, yes, finally a uniter!</div>

 

[HeyNorm]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 85088" data-quote="Zincwarrior" data-source="post: 34395335" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34395335" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34395335">Zincwarrior said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Whats the old joke. If men could get pregnant there would be Planned Parenthoods on every street corner? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>If men could get pregnant we’d try to out due each other. <br /> <br /> You only got 4 kids, <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="💩" title="Pile of poo :poop:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f4a9.png" data-shortname=":poop:" /> dude, I got 8, and during childbirth all I did was bite down on a bullet!</div>

 

[sartre play]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 87881" data-quote="Robert W" data-source="post: 34384238" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34384238" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34384238">Robert W said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Gee, thanks for two left wing sites. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>There are no longer ANY HONEST SITES. POLITICAL propaganda RULES.</div>

 

[HeyNorm]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 62277" data-quote="skews13" data-source="post: 34395361" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34395361" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34395361">skews13 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Wrong. Don’t know how the government works?<br /> <br /> Only Congress has the power to pass laws.<br /> <br /> Period.<br /> <br /> If the House passes a reproductive rights bill, it passes in the Senate, and the President signs it. That is the law of the land.<br /> <br /> And the Supremacy Clause means that new federal law over rides any state restrictions that would interfere with its implementation.<br /> <br /> Period.<br /> <br /> And the most corrupt court ever n American history has no say in the matter.<br /> <br /> Hope I was able to clear that up for you. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>But that court could say that, since women are the only ones with the right to abortion as a birth control method, then men can’t be held responsible when she does not exercise that right. And government can no longer compel child support!<br /> <br /> See, I’m the most pro choice member of this board!</div>

 

[bendog]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 88681" data-quote="HeyNorm" data-source="post: 34395557" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34395557" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34395557">HeyNorm said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> But that court could say that, since women are the only ones with the right to abortion as a birth control method, then men can’t be held responsible when she does not exercise that right. And government can no longer compel child support!<br /> <br /> See, I’m the most pro choice member of this board! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Alito might go for it</div>

 

[HeyNorm]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 42949" data-quote="bendog" data-source="post: 34395726" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34395726" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34395726">bendog said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Alito might go for it </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>He should as should all fair minded people. Men have zero control of the situation from beginning to end (if abortion is legal), they should have just as much obligation. Zero.</div>

 

[candycorn]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 87881" data-quote="Robert W" data-source="post: 34394939" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34394939" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34394939">Robert W said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> She files a lawsuit against the company if she proves she did not intend to get pregnant. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>And she has a kid for the rest of her life. Along with possibly any emotional scarring that might come from it. A stillborn birth for example.</div>

 

[JoeB131]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 71645" data-quote="progressive hunter" data-source="post: 34395216" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34395216" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34395216">progressive hunter said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> why do you say end the pregnancy instead of what theyre really doing which is killing their child??<br /> <br /> and that child is not her body,,, </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> But it&#039;s INSIDE her body, which makes it her choice. <br /> <br /> Fetuses aren&#039;t children.</div>

 

[progressive hunter]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31057" data-quote="JoeB131" data-source="post: 34396190" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34396190" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34396190">JoeB131 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> But it&#039;s INSIDE her body, which makes it her choice.<br /> <br /> Fetuses aren&#039;t children. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>she made her choice when she spread her legs,,<br /> <br /> as per the dictionary a fetus is the offspring of a mammal/human being still in the womb and another word for offspring is child,, <br /> <br /> the dictionary also says an abortion results in the death of a fetus,, and since a fetus is just another word for child, an abortion is the intentional killing of a human being,,<br /> <br /> dont take my word for it,, just look it up yourself,,</div>

 

[JoeB131]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 71645" data-quote="progressive hunter" data-source="post: 34396246" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34396246" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34396246">progressive hunter said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> she made her choice when she spread her legs,, </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>And she made another when she went to the clinic! <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 71645" data-quote="progressive hunter" data-source="post: 34396246" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34396246" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34396246">progressive hunter said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> as per the dictionary a fetus is the offspring of a mammal/human being still in the womb and another word for offspring is child,, </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>But not the same as a human being. We don&#039;t have funerals for miscarriages. We don&#039;t count them in the census. You can&#039;t claim them as tax deductions. and, yes, you can suck them into a medical waste container. Because they are NOT the same. <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 71645" data-quote="progressive hunter" data-source="post: 34396246" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34396246" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34396246">progressive hunter said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> the dictionary also says an abortion results in the death of a fetus,, and since a fetus is just another word for child, an abortion is the intentional killing of a human being,, </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No, because the death is because it can&#039;t live outside the womb. It&#039;s unviability makes it less so <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 71645" data-quote="progressive hunter" data-source="post: 34396246" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34396246" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34396246">progressive hunter said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> dont take my word for it,, just look it up yourself,, </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I don&#039;t have to. <br /> <br /> Women are going to get abortions whether you like it or not, and most people will support that.</div>

 

[progressive hunter]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31057" data-quote="JoeB131" data-source="post: 34396364" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34396364" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34396364">JoeB131 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> And she made another when she went to the clinic!<br /> <br /> <br /> But not the same as a human being. We don&#039;t have funerals for miscarriages. We don&#039;t count them in the census. You can&#039;t claim them as tax deductions. and, yes, you can suck them into a medical waste container. Because they are NOT the same. <br /> <br /> <br /> No, because the death is because it can&#039;t live outside the womb. It&#039;s unviability makes it less so<br /> <br /> <br /> I don&#039;t have to. <br /> <br /> Women are going to get abortions whether you like it or not, and most people will support that. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>are you saying you dont think its a human child because of taxation????<br /> <br /> we are talking biology here not politics ,,<br /> <br /> and biology says its a human child at conception,,,<br /> <br /> if the death rsults from the abortion it died because it was aborted,,</div>

 

[bendog]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31057" data-quote="JoeB131" data-source="post: 34396190" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34396190" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34396190">JoeB131 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> But it&#039;s INSIDE her body, which makes it her choice.<br /> <br /> Fetuses aren&#039;t children. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>he&#039;s just trolling.<br /> <br /> good nite</div>

 

[HeyNorm]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 20614" data-quote="candycorn" data-source="post: 34395903" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34395903" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34395903">candycorn said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> And she has a kid for the rest of her life. Along with possibly any emotional scarring that might come from it. A stillborn birth for example. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>How can a parasitic clump of cells cause emotional scarring?</div>

 

[HeyNorm]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 71645" data-quote="progressive hunter" data-source="post: 34396246" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34396246" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34396246">progressive hunter said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> she made her choice when she spread her legs,,<br /> <br /> as per the dictionary a fetus is the offspring of a mammal/human being still in the womb and another word for offspring is child,,<br /> <br /> the dictionary also says an abortion results in the death of a fetus,, and since a fetus is just another word for child, an abortion is the intentional killing of a human being,,<br /> <br /> dont take my word for it,, just look it up yourself,, </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> She controls all aspect of this, from beginning to end. And if abortion is legal, then she must be held solely responsible for her decision NOT to afford hersel of this right, and the courts should never again make men responsible for her decision. Court ordered child support should end immediately upon legalizing of abortion. <br /> <br /> Then this gets real.</div>

 

[progressive hunter]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 88681" data-quote="HeyNorm" data-source="post: 34396817" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=34396817" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-34396817">HeyNorm said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> She controls all aspect of this, from beginning to end. And if abortion is legal, then she must be held solely responsible for her decision NOT to afford hersel of this right, and the courts should never again make men responsible for her decision. Court ordered child support should end immediately upon legalizing of abortion.<br /> <br /> Then this gets real. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>the child supports a given,, and should already be the case,,<br /> <br /> dont agree its up to her if she can kill another human being,,</div>