Zone1 Abortion is a bellwether issue

[frigidweirdo]

This is why it should be resolved by facts and logic, not by "feelings".

There are no "facts and logic".

It all depends on what you think is most important.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I'm a right-leaner and I support the utility of abortion.

Do you support the California law that allows abortions during birth?

 

[BackAgain]

In every state it comes to a citizen vote, Republicans lose.

No. But the preborn often do.

So, in retrospect, maybe you liberoids shouldn’t have gotten so upset over Dobbs.

 

[Weatherman2020]

In every state it comes to a citizen vote, Republicans lose.

Like slavery being ruled by popularity?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Like slavery being ruled by popularity?

It would have lost on a national vote.

 

[Weatherman2020]

It would have lost on a national vote.

No, it would not have. Thats why abolition was never passed by Congress.

 

[Zincwarrior]

No, it would not have. Thats why abolition was never passed by Congress.

Yes it would. Only the South had slavery. The population of the South was substantially less than the reset of the US. Further, the US population was growing massively by that time, and it wasn't growing in the South.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yes it would. Only the South had slavery. The population of the South was substantially less than the reset of the US. Further, the US population was growing massively by that time, and it wasn't growing in the South.

What do you think the major economic foundation was for the North?

Cotton and textile industries.

 

[Zincwarrior]

What do you think the major economic foundation was for the North?

Cotton and textile industries.

The North was in the throes of the Industrial Revolution.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The North was in the throes of the Industrial Revolution.

Thanks to cotton, Dufus.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Thanks to cotton, Dufus.

No. Thanks to steel and coal. They didn't need slaves. They had immigrants.

 

[Weatherman2020]

No. Thanks to steel and coal. They didn't need slaves. They had immigrants.

You really are an ignoramus. Cotton drove the Industrial Revolution.

Did Cotton Drive the Industrial Revolution, or Is It More Complicated?

Was cotton the main driving force of the Industrial Revolution, or were other rapidly growing industries just as important?

www.thoughtco.com

The Cotton Industry and the Industrial Revolution - History Learning Site

The United Kingdom experienced a huge growth in the cotton industry during the Industrial Revolution. The factories that were required to produce cotton became a legacy of the time – Sir Richard Arkwright at Cromford built the world’s first true factory to produce cotton. With an ever increasing...

www.historylearningsite.co.uk

 

[Zincwarrior]

You really are an ignoramus. Cotton drove the Industrial Revolution.

Did Cotton Drive the Industrial Revolution, or Is It More Complicated?

Was cotton the main driving force of the Industrial Revolution, or were other rapidly growing industries just as important?

www.thoughtco.com

The Cotton Industry and the Industrial Revolution - History Learning Site

The United Kingdom experienced a huge growth in the cotton industry during the Industrial Revolution. The factories that were required to produce cotton became a legacy of the time – Sir Richard Arkwright at Cromford built the world’s first true factory to produce cotton. With an ever increasing...

www.historylearningsite.co.uk

The South thought that. The British showed them.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The South thought that. The British showed them.

77% of British cotton was supplied by the US, Dufus.

 

[Zincwarrior]

77% of British cotton was supplied by the US, Dufus.

Until it wasn't in 1861.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Until it wasn't in 1861.

Thanks for acknowledgment that the North had a vested interest in slavery.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Thanks for acknowledgment that the North had a vested interest in slavery.

I didn't.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I didn't.

You’re at a crossroads. You can either acknowledge historical facts or show everyone how ignorant you are about slavery and why Congress made no attempts to end it.

Ball is in your court.

 

[dblack]

Abortion is a bellwether issue. If you don't "get" why abortion is wrong, I can't explain it to you. If you understand it's wrong, none of the standard "pro-choice" arguments will persuade you.

And if you can't "get" why individual bodily sovereignty is more important than the intrusive desires of busybodies to right all wrongs with government, well - I actually can explain it to you. But I doubt you'd listen. You'd rather jerk it to a self-righteous orgasm.

If statists such as yourself get their way, all rights are at risk. If we authorize government to police the contents of our bodies, all bets are off and the totalitarian state you desire is assured.

 

[Doc7505]

Euthanasia, physician-assisted suicide, mercy killing, and abortion all have in common that they are practices that seem utilitarian, but endanger all of us by eroding respect for the sanctity of human life.

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Here's former governor Northams outlook....

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