Debate With Atheists/Leftists is Futile

Well, to begin with, when you are trying to frame things in terms of a predisposed position of "Liberal" vs. "Me", you are wrong from the start. You don't have an argument to be made when you are living in a subjective fantasy.
Wise people use what is given to them without a price, and then burdens others, and themselves with a price? How wise would the animals be had they behave like us? Jesus paid a price. Money was not used. The church makes us think that Jesus used gold and sliver coins.
 
Ah, how refreshing.
I much prefer exchanging views with someone with an open mind.

People pour garbage into your "open mind."
You think murdering unborn, innocent babies is just fine. "Open mind."
You think men can become women. "Open mind."
You think men should have a right to use little girls rest rooms. "Open mind."
You voted for Joe Biden. "Open mind."

Our Founding Fathers did NOT have your "open mind." They had brilliance and common sense, both of which you obviously lack.
I will not again read anything you have to say.
ciao brutto
 
A long time ago I came across a quote about the open mind. It said it is good to have an open mind, but not good to be so open minded that everything falls out.
 
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Jesus is not a desert being. Jesus is not of this world. Jesus thinks differently than fallen humanity. That is why they wanted Jesus to no longer exist. Jesus did not victimize anyone. Don't people know scripture? People victimized Jesus, trying to find a fault in him.
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the religious itinerant did not write the christian bible - nor a single attribute of their direct authorship is included in that document.

who exactly is they ...

where is found in the christian bible the events of the 1st century liberation theology the itinerant and everyone else during that time died for ... such that the attainable goal for admission to the Everlasting is acquired - not given through worship. and that no one is born a sinner.
 
What evidence?

There's been plenty of debate about God and the like on here recently, and I've not seen one piece of evidence that a God exists.
He put me on ignore right BEFORE I destroyed his counter post showing that the bible has many errors in it.

He ran away with his tail between his legs......, what a paper thin religionist he is.


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46 to go.
 
People pour garbage into your "open mind."
You think murdering unborn, innocent babies is just fine. "Open mind."
You think men can become women. "Open mind."
You think men should have a right to use little girls rest rooms. "Open mind."
You voted for Joe Biden. "Open mind."

Our Founding Fathers did NOT have your "open mind." They had brilliance and common sense, both of which you obviously lack.
I will not again read anything you have to say.
ciao brutto
"I will not again read anything you have to say''

Good gawd. What a pompous ass.
 
He put me on ignore right BEFORE I destroyed his counter post showing that the bible has many errors in it.

He ran away with his tail between his legs......, what a paper thin religionist he is.


:rolleyes:

46 to go.
The Bible has no counsel that contradicts the laws that Jesus kept. Number discrepancies mean nothing. People will in their mind think the Bible says something, not saying it, adding that misconception when they make a new bible. .Sodom's sin was vexing people with what they said. Jesus will not do that.
 
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"I will not again read anything you have to say''

Good gawd. What a pompous ass.
We are a part of nature. They accepted vanity unwillingly. They don't care about what sex sees them piss and poop. They just piss and poop. A door make people think they can hide from the eyes of God, when they hide from the eyes of people. The church's emphasis on clothing, set the stage for people thinking that clothing can change their sex. Modest apparel has nothing to do with the nude form. The Bible is talking about costly array.
 
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the religious itinerant did not write the christian bible - nor a single attribute of their direct authorship is included in that document.

who exactly is they ...

where is found in the christian bible the events of the 1st century liberation theology the itinerant and everyone else during that time died for ... such that the attainable goal for admission to the Everlasting is acquired - not given through worship. and that no one is born a sinner.
The body is born in sin. The body dies. How obvious is that?
 
"I will not again read anything you have to say''

Good gawd. What a pompous ass.
The founding fathers decimated people who did not use money. They are called Indians. They could not make a purchase. People are treated in like manner in stores, when they don't have money.
 
The body is born in sin. The body dies. How obvious is that?
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not very ... obvious at all. in fact the post is nonsensical -

and keep in mind, though many, only thumpers believe they are born in sin or other similar illiterates - which closely does align with their everyday existence and undoubtedly is the source for your error.
 
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not very ... obvious at all. in fact the post is nonsensical -

and keep in mind, though many, only thumpers believe they are born in sin or other similar illiterates - which closely does align with their everyday existence and undoubtedly is the source for your error.
People who sound like a Devil, will sin in their soul. I want to hear Jesus talking through you. Blessing and cursing brethren, ought not so to be. Death came when sin came. Jesus came to have us have the same thing? Death was not in the stars that God set in the universe. Genisis 1:17, Them refers to stars. The church goes all around that. God is not in the church. I am working on changing that. All you can say are negitive words, not having power to do that. Can you figure out why Satan said :Thou shalt not surly die? It was because of this: Adam and Eve were immortal befor they fell. Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. KJV. The Garden of Eden was just the beginning. The earth made new will be a continuation of what God started in the beginning. God will destroy meats for the belly and the belly for meats. There is nothing about God destroying our secrets, or genitalia. We will be like the angels. Angels are immortal. The saved will have a body like unto Christs glorious body. Jesus is a male.
 
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What evidence?

There's been plenty of debate about God and the like on here recently, and I've not seen one piece of evidence that a God exists.
Evidence encompasses the physical earth, not a spiritual realm. The spirit is not physical, i.e., no possibility of physical evidence.

What kind of evidence are you seeking?
 
"Go from the presence of a foolish man." - The Holy Bible

What is a foolish man?

"The fool hath said in his heart there is no God. - The Holy Bible

"Answer not a fool according to his folly lest thou be like unto him." - The Holy Bible

No matter what facts, no matter what evidence, what science, what compelling data and research you provide to Leftists/atheists, they will spin it, deny it, trivialize it, and completely refute it. So simply post an opening message for the good of thinking, rational people, and don't respond to lying atheists.
They're not worth your time and effort.

The effort necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude greater than the effort required to produce it. - Brandolini's Law

Further reading:
The Irrational Atheist by Vox Day and Illogical Atheism by Bo Jinn.

Excellent, persuasive books by former militant atheists.

The idea that he is a devotee of reason seeing through the outdated superstitions believed by less intelligent beings is the foremost conceit of the atheist. – page 7

… 72.9 percent of professors polled described the Bible as “an ancient book of fables, legends, history, and moral precepts,” compared to 17.5 percent of the general population. – page 15



… the High Church atheist’s undeveloped social skills are often so dramatic as to be reasonably described as a form of social autism. – page 16

Democrats are more than twice as likely to be someone who has dropped out of high school than to be an individual with a master’s degree. – page 19

Studies have shown that those without religion have life expectancies seven years shorter than the average churchgoer, are more likely to smoke, abuse alcohol and be depressed or obese, and they are much less likely to marry or have children. – page 20 (The Irrational Atheist)

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The atheist consequently finds himself committed to a set of logical contradictions; that he is free, except there is no such thing as freedom; that all men are basically good, though moral good itself is only useful fiction; and finally that his life has meaning in a universe that has none – or at least none that we can possibly know of at any rate. Modern atheism is… an abstract mess.- Line1950

In order to establish an explanation as the best, you do not have to have an explanation for the explanation. [That would necessitate explanations all the way down.] The universe has demonstrated that it requires an explanation. God has not. – 1989

“I just go one god further (in my atheism than do theists).” – Richard Dawkins, who finds this wordplay “an amusing strategy”. This is an example of the “fallacy of pluralism,” which is to say that since multiple representations of the same thing have been suggested, it follows that the very thing itself, therefore, does not exist. – 2019

Contemporary atheism does no resolve in the conclusion that God does not exist as much as it begins with it. – 2270

If the evidence from sociology is not powerful enough, we now have recent studies from the field of psychology which validate the ridiculousness of this fictional psychological pre-disposition to atheism. – 2385
(Illogical Atheism, Kindle Edition)
"No matter what facts, no matter what evidence, what science, ..."

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and in case you missed it
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Evidence encompasses the physical earth, not a spiritual realm. The spirit is not physical, i.e., no possibility of physical evidence.

What kind of evidence are you seeking?
God is described in the Bible as being light that existed before time. Wicked, determined to not beleive, will be burned up in that light. Is it worth it to harden your heart to me even as the heart of the Pharaoh of Egypt was hardened, when Moses pled with him to let his people go? People who are determined in their heart to say there is no God will be burned up. Eternal torment is a lie. The church made you think, like you think. We please God when we believe that God is. You are pleasing no one, including yourself. We battle against forces that are not seen. Good overcomes evil.
 
"You think"
a) I don't recall having posted any such assertion in these fora.
b) CE did not quote my words, but merely lavished disparaging fiction against me, attributing your fiction to me.

Who do you think you're kidding? Did you think I wouldn't know better?!

FYI CE, I'm a big boy now. I'm fully capable of stating my own position. And perhaps if you were better at stating your own position, you wouldn't make yourself look so foolish misrepresenting mine.
People pour garbage into your "open mind."
You think murdering unborn, innocent babies is just fine. "Open mind."
You think men can become women. "Open mind."
You think men should have a right to use little girls rest rooms. "Open mind."
You voted for Joe Biden. "Open mind."

Our Founding Fathers did NOT have your "open mind." They had brilliance and common sense, both of which you obviously lack.
I will not again read anything you have to say.
ciao brutto
You conflate keen observational discretion with liberal political tolerance. But I'm not a political liberal. I'm a trained scientist. And among scientists, it is the closed mind such as the one you brandish so pridefully, that is the caution.

In the 19th Century at the University of Edinburgh Medical School there was an extraordinary teacher, Dr. Joseph Bell. He sought to make his medical students good doctors by using their eyes not just to see, but to observe. When Queen Victoria was in Scotland, Dr. Bell was her personal physician. His powers of observation were astonishing. It was said that he could make a diagnosis before the patient had said a word about his symptoms. He could even guess his occupation, and recent activities. He was a pioneer in using forensic pathology in criminal investigations. Dr. Bell's ability to draw insightful conclusions from the smallest observations made a deep impression on a medical student by the name of Doyle; Arthur Conan Doyle. He became a writer, and used Dr. Bell as inspiration for the greatest detective of all time, Sherlock Holmes.

Art Doyle's Sherlock Holmes character (the one whose side-kick was named "Dr. Watson") was the inspiration for Hugh Lorie's hit show House, the one whose side-kick was known as "Dr. Wilson".

Don't sell science short CE, unless egg on your face is your fashion statement.
 
Have your own faith? People have faith, or they don't haver faith. We are made in God's image. Jesus looked like us, able to do what people are not able to do. Jesus is an alien, not being of this earth. That makes us to be alien's. Jesus is God visually seen.
 
Evidence encompasses the physical earth, not a spiritual realm. The spirit is not physical, i.e., no possibility of physical evidence.

What kind of evidence are you seeking?

Problem here is that people claim God made the universe. If God is spiritual, then how did he make the physical?

From the point of view of evidence we have to understand humans. We have brains, we're not exactly sure how they work, we do know we dream, we do know we're bad at recalling things, we lie to ourselves, change our history. People have Schizophrenia and things like that where they hear voices and believe things to exist that aren't.

If there's a "spiritual world" and God created it, why wouldn't all people experience it?

Why do people who are born Muslim experience a spiritual world that's DIFFERENT to those who are Christian, or Jewish, or Buddhist etc etc?


The reality is the God is far too convenient for humans (especially the Christian God) for God to be anything other than a human construction.
 
The reality is the God is far too convenient for humans (especially the Christian God) for God to be anything other than a human construction.
Carlin observed, we created god, in our own image & likeness. BUT !!

If there was a supernatural, divine Genesis, who else would you expect Mr. Perfect to have us look like? Rottweilers?!
 
"No matter what facts, no matter what evidence, what science, ..."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
and in case you missed it
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I hear faithless demons who cannot bless anyone with their words. God will talk throuiigh a person or his enemy will talk thropugh a person. You are clueless.
Problem here is that people claim God made the universe. If God is spiritual, then how did he make the physical?

From the point of view of evidence we have to understand humans. We have brains, we're not exactly sure how they work, we do know we dream, we do know we're bad at recalling things, we lie to ourselves, change our history. People have Schizophrenia and things like that where they hear voices and believe things to exist that aren't.

If there's a "spiritual world" and God created it, why wouldn't all people experience it?

Why do people who are born Muslim experience a spiritual world that's DIFFERENT to those who are Christian, or Jewish, or Buddhist etc etc?


The reality is the God is far too convenient for humans (especially the Christian God) for God to be anything other than a human construction.
What we see is not what was, before sin. God is both unseen and seen. The Unseen Father is in the mind of Jesus. They are one. People need to know the voice of the master. There is a battle for the mind. Satan wants people to be like that being, to end up being burned up on the last day. Satan hates god's image. Muslims obey a being who was with God for a time who was Lucifer. That being imitate how God talks as closely as that being can. That being speaks of that beings self. I see, and hear, that being when I read the words in the Quran. I know the mind behind the words. Muslims are extravagant, showy, straight faced liars. They use lies that the church established, like Racium, Freedom of religon, Diversity, co existence.
 

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