Dear Vivek, Global Warming aka Co2 based climate change is a "hoax," climate change is a science

[EMH]

It's all Dem propaganda. They just keep shouting the climate change propaganda 24/7. Drowning out obvious evidence to the contrary. Silencing anyone who dares disagree. If not the Co2 fraud it would be (and has been) other forms of climate change evidence fraud. Co2 is just the latest climate change propaganda talking point.

Hot weather, climate change. Cold weather, climate change. Rain, wind, snow, climate change. Fires, climate change. Whenever anything happens, climate change.

Gore, Hansen, and Mann were all very young but part of the 1970s Global Cooling hoax.

That is where they learned about Urban Heat Island Effect and hence would enable them to take temperatures from growing urban areas, claim "warming," and blame it on Co2. The Co2 FRAUD launched in 1988...


And you are correct that they misuse the term "climate change" when it suits them. Do not allow them to do that. Remind them that their "theory" is that increasing atmospheric Co2 causes the atmosphere to warm, and the highly correlated satellite and balloon data showed NO WARMING in the atmosphere despite rising Co2, and was hence FUDGED in 2005 with laughable bullshit...

 

[Arlette]

It's all Dem propaganda. They just keep shouting the climate change propaganda 24/7. Drowning out obvious evidence to the contrary. Silencing anyone who dares disagree. If not the Co2 fraud it would be (and has been) other forms of climate change evidence fraud. Co2 is just the latest climate change propaganda talking point.

Hot weather, climate change. Cold weather, climate change. Rain, wind, snow, climate change. Fires, climate change. Whenever anything happens, climate change.

What obvious evidence to the contrary?

 

[22lcidw]

Global climate change is real. It's here. It leads to mass migration which in turn leads to fascism.

And yet all of those Progs who talk like you move to areas where the worse happens.

 

[BluesLegend]

Gore, Hansen, and Mann were all very young but part of the 1970s Global Cooling hoax.

After the global cooling hoax, was the spotted owl/endangered species hoaxes, followed by the deformed frogs ozone hole hoax. After each hoax is proven a hoax they just invent a whole new hoax. Then came the global warming hoax and when that was mocked they changed it to "climate change".

Dems have multiple hoaxes they are pushing today, none backed up by real science. They use these to BAN and attack things that stand in the way of them pushing their climate change, fossil fuels bad, EV agenda.

 

[progressive hunter]

WORDS MATTER.

Vivek should have said the Co2 Fraud or Global Warming, not climate change.

Vivek isn't going to win live debates getting "out-wordsmithed" by professional liars.

Vivek should come here and get a lecture...

Since Co2 does nothing, what does cause Earth climate change?

The first part is understanding what is climate and what is weather. Climate is the parameters of Earth that allow certain ranges of weather. We don't get Cat 10 canes now, but we would if Earth had no ice. What are the parameters of climate that can change? Ocean levels Atmospheric...

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The warmers need to explain the Arctic Circle's ice pattern, and how Co2 is responsible...

The map is clear. 7% of Earth ice is on Greenland. Why is there ice on Greenland south of the Arctic Circle, and no ice north of the Arctic Circle on Alaska? Co2 and sun do not explain this. The only explanation is the Greenland is within 600 miles of the pole at the top, and hence...

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The lies of Milankovich Cycles aka McBullshit - where was land mass Antarctica 70 million years ago

McBullshit claims Antarctica has been on the South Pole forever, it never moved at all. And, while it is on the South Pole, it has rapidly gone from ice age to tropical paradise and back over and over.... a Dennis Quaid theory for sure... We know that Antarctica has 70 million year old...

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How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

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Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

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what should have happened is you not lie about what he did say,,

 

[EMH]

ozone hole hoax

Ozone hole was real and important. All the rest is as you say, complete fraud.

Then came the global warming hoax and when that was mocked they changed it to "climate change".

The two phrases, global warming and climate change, have specific meanings, and the media and the faux "scientists" get away with blurring and wordsmithing. When we get record cold, we are always told

"climate change is real"

which is a wordsmith fudge to avoid the fact that in the science of Earth climate change, their THEORY is GLOBAL WARMING and RECORD COLD TEMPERATURES REFUTE THAT...


It would help our side to become experts in the language and bust them when they wordsmith.

For example, crock once posted that canes have increased since the 1950s... ... ... never mind the record decade for canes is the 1940s...

They do that shit ALL THE TIME...

 

[EMH]

What obvious evidence to the contrary?

Thanks for asking for DATA, our specialty on the TRUTH side...

Hurricanes - directly correlated with ocean temperature - claim is "ocean warming"

DATA SAYS record decade for canes still the 1940s...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

Claim - Antarctica is "melting" - problem - NO LIQUID WATER THERE

Court certified truth

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods. It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning...

www.newsbusters.org

• The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.
• The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.
• The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off events to global warming.
• The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that this was not the case.
• The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.
• The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
• The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
• The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.
• The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.
• The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
• The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.

Claim - oceans are rising because of net ongoing ice melt

PROBLEM = they cannot show ONE SINGLE PHOTO of a landmark sinking....




Atmospheric Temps - we have TWO and ONLY TWO MEASURES of atmospheric temps, satellites and balloons, and both showed NO WARMING in the atmosphere despite rising Co2, causing the Co2 FRAUD to FUDGE in 2005 with laughable bullshit...


THEY HAVE NEVER HAD ANY ACTUAL DATA SHOWING WARMING IN THE ATMOSPHERE = NONE!!!!!

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Arlette]

Thanks for asking for DATA, our specialty on the TRUTH side...

Hurricanes - directly correlated with ocean temperature - claim is "ocean warming"

DATA SAYS record decade for canes still the 1940s...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

Claim - Antarctica is "melting" - problem - NO LIQUID WATER THERE

Court certified truth

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods. It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning...

www.newsbusters.org

• The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.
• The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.
• The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off events to global warming.
• The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that this was not the case.
• The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.
• The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
• The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
• The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.
• The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.
• The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
• The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.

Claim - oceans are rising because of net ongoing ice melt

PROBLEM = they cannot show ONE SINGLE PHOTO of a landmark sinking....




Atmospheric Temps - we have TWO and ONLY TWO MEASURES of atmospheric temps, satellites and balloons, and both showed NO WARMING in the atmosphere despite rising Co2, causing the Co2 FRAUD to FUDGE in 2005 with laughable bullshit...


THEY HAVE NEVER HAD ANY ACTUAL DATA SHOWING WARMING IN THE ATMOSPHERE = NONE!!!!!

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

What film?

 

[EMH]

What film?

al gore an inconvenient truth movie - Google Search

 

[otto105]

YOU DO NOT KNOW SINCE YOU WERE NOT THERE.

YOU HAVE A BEAK AND A BIRDBRAIN, nothing more...

So, no comment from the internet climate denier on the findings of actual scientists from Exxon Mobil.

 

[EMH]

the findings of actual scientists

Your side has cooked up some laughable bullshit to cover up the truth that your side has NOTHING.

Instead of documenting with actual data some evidence of "warming" your side has resorted to squirting bleach into coral, microwaving water around one buoy, and making up shit about "scientists" at Exxon who.... were working on "Global Warming" during the Global COOLING scam....


This is the same level of idiocy of a Ukraine energy firm hiring Hunter Biden. WHY? Why would Exxon do research on Co2 in the 1970s? Did they hire Hunter Biden's "consulting firm" to find an answer??

The Exxon story of the Co2 FRAUD proves several things

1. they have NO EVIDENCE because "Global Warming" is not happening
2. to deflect from #1, they have created false narrative BS for idiots like otto to parrot when otto is exposed for being


UNABLE TO EXPLAIN A MAP OF THE ARCTIC....

The warmers need to explain the Arctic Circle's ice pattern, and how Co2 is responsible...

The map is clear. 7% of Earth ice is on Greenland. Why is there ice on Greenland south of the Arctic Circle, and no ice north of the Arctic Circle on Alaska? Co2 and sun do not explain this. The only explanation is the Greenland is within 600 miles of the pole at the top, and hence...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[otto105]

Your side has cooked up some laughable bullshit to cover up the truth that your side has NOTHING.

Instead of documenting with actual data some evidence of "warming" your side has resorted to squirting bleach into coral, microwaving water around one buoy, and making up shit about "scientists" at Exxon who.... were working on "Global Warming" during the Global COOLING scam....


This is the same level of idiocy of a Ukraine energy firm hiring Hunter Biden. WHY? Why would Exxon do research on Co2 in the 1970s? Did they hire Hunter Biden's "consulting firm" to find an answer??

The Exxon story of the Co2 FRAUD proves several things

1. they have NO EVIDENCE because "Global Warming" is not happening
2. to deflect from #1, they have created false narrative BS for idiots like otto to parrot when otto is exposed for being


UNABLE TO EXPLAIN A MAP OF THE ARCTIC....

The warmers need to explain the Arctic Circle's ice pattern, and how Co2 is responsible...

The map is clear. 7% of Earth ice is on Greenland. Why is there ice on Greenland south of the Arctic Circle, and no ice north of the Arctic Circle on Alaska? Co2 and sun do not explain this. The only explanation is the Greenland is within 600 miles of the pole at the top, and hence...

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Which side has the real science denier.

Hilarious

 

[EMH]

Which side has the real science denier.

Hilarious

Found anyone on your side who can explain a map of the Arctic yet....

PATHETIC

All DATA refutes Co2 FRAUD....

 

[otto105]

Found anyone on your side who can explain a map of the Arctic yet....

PATHETIC

All DATA refutes Co2 FRAUD....

Have you found any scientific organization to back your position yet.

With all the internet dick tracy you can offer.

 

[EMH]

Have you found any scientific organization to back your position yet.

With all the internet dick tracy you can offer.

None of those "scientific organizations" you parrot can explain a map of the Arctic?

None can explain how all this ocean "warming" still results in the 1940s being strongest decade for canes on record?

Still cannot show us one single photo of a landmark "sinking" despite all the ocean "rise?"

Still cannot show us any liquid water on Antarctica your Co2 FRAUD side claims is "melting?"

And that's before we dissect the FUDGE JOB of the atmospheric temps showing NO WARMING despite rising Co2....

 

[otto105]

None of those "scientific organizations" you parrot can explain a map of the Arctic?

None can explain how all this ocean "warming" still results in the 1940s being strongest decade for canes on record?

Still cannot show us one single photo of a landmark "sinking" despite all the ocean "rise?"

Still cannot show us any liquid water on Antarctica your Co2 FRAUD side claims is "melting?"

And that's before we dissect the FUDGE JOB of the atmospheric temps showing NO WARMING despite rising Co2....

Again, maybe you should be trying and failing to discuss this with actual subject matter experts.

You can inform them of your internet sleuthing

 

[EMH]

to discuss this with actual subject matter experts

and that certainly excludes your beaked birdbrain...

The questions and explanations and data are all posted here. Nobody can refute any of it. Instead, they toss cards and change the subject.

 

[john doe 101]

This is what happens when these right wing nut jobs forget to take their meds....they go off the deep end.

 

[john doe 101]

Again, maybe you should be trying and failing to discuss this with actual subject matter experts.

You can inform them of your internet sleuthing

Just like every other trumpanzee, he's a lawyer, a politician, a climatologist, a biologist, and an immunologist. There is nothing these crazy people dont claim to have the answer for.

 

[john doe 101]

YOU DO NOT KNOW SINCE YOU WERE NOT THERE.

YOU HAVE A BEAK AND A BIRDBRAIN, nothing more...

.3% of science believes you.