Major Climate Change Study Retracted

[ding]

Most people don't know that icebergs are fresh water.


also floating icebergs don't add any "rise"
as they melt, as to equal displacement via volume.
However
I just found this
nasa disagrees with me on this point, so i'll try it for my self right here on the Trump Gulf of America.
I'll post the resilts
Now
I'm afraid of a Democrat war on icebergs.

Melting Ocean Ice Affects Sea Level – Unlike Ice Cubes in a Glass – NASA Sea Level Change Portal Melting Ocean Ice Affects Sea Level – Unlike Ice Cubes in a Glass

Don't forget thermal expansion.

Around 6,000 years ago, the dominant driver of sea-level change shifted from rapid ice sheet melt to slower processes, with ice melt contributions significantly decreasing and the ocean warming causing thermal expansion; the overall rise slowed to a few centimeters per century (around 0.1-0.2 mm/yr), a much lower rate than the earlier period, though some areas saw temporary rises above modern levels before stabilizing, indicating thermal expansion played a growing, but balanced, role with land adjustments after the main glacial melting ended.

Today they say that ice melt is responsible for ~2/3 of the ocean's rise and thermal expansion is responsible for ~1/3 of the ocean's rise. I call BS on that because the slope of the rise has not materially changed.

 

[Sunsettommy]

National security, end of story. There is more to this but that is the crux of it.

If I were to expand conservatively, Id also suggest that the EU arent going in the right direction socially, culturally, spiritually or militarily. That is perhaps an understatement, and America can no longer rely on them or associate their fate with the EUs who have rarely carried their weight, certainly less so when the world in their foolish greed and naive world view allowed Communist China into the WTO. Clearly China went right to work to influence and weaken the EU and the West.

The world changes. Denmark and their bureaucratic friends in the E.U want to hark back to a time that no longer exists.

You know Roosevelt viewed Churchill as a monarchist, for which he and America were inherently in opposition too. Churchill, in his often drunk stupor, lost credibility with both Stalin and Roosevelt as Germany had in effect, sunk the British Empire through WWI and WWIII.

In essence, Empires fail primarily due to the pompous arrogance of the overlord who misuse their subjects. Puerto Rico want to be in Americas sphere because they know its best for them, economically and socially.

Greenland can choose their destiny but Russia and China (especially) definitely do not want America to have broader influence there. Why do the EU who talk a great game but never walk one want to maintain a state in time that no longer exists?

Speak to America and negotiate. Just ridding themselves of tariffs for say a 50 year period might agreeable to America and it would pay many billions in dividends to the citizens and businesses of Denmark.

America already has a military base in Greenland thus Trump has no cause to invade it when a mineral and oil rights treaty can be made that is far cheaper and easier to attain and satisfty the Greenlander strong desire to keep their independence in the process.

Pituffik Space Base​

LINK

 

[shockedcanadian]

America already has a military base in Greenland thus Trump has no cause to invade it when a mineral and oil rights treaty can be made that is far cheaper and easier to attain and satisfty the Greenlander strong desire to keep their independence in the process.

Pituffik Space Base​

LINK

Id say for arguments sake having them carry the same status as the Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico is better, there isnt any grey area in the event the shyte hits the fan.

There will be a time when the Arctic is going to need the heaviest of hitters there while the extraction of minerals continues for what should be decades into the future.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Id say for arguments sake having them carry the same status as the Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico is better, there isnt any grey area in the event the shyte hits the fan.

There will be a time when the Arctic is going to need the heaviest of hitters there while the extraction of minerals continues for what should be decades into the future.

I have yet to see evidence from anyone showing that Russia or China is planning to take Greenland......

As I have already poined out American MILITARY is already there!

 

[shockedcanadian]

I have yet to see evidence from anyone showing that Russia or China is planning to take Greenland......

As I have already poined out American MILITARY is already there!

You dont plan for today, you plan for tomorrow. With decreasing ice and a mass of land with gobs of resources on the same continent as America which is defended by 56000 people?

This is a disaster just waiting to happen.

 

[Sunsettommy]

You dont plan for today, you plan for tomorrow. With decreasing ice and a mass of land with gobs of resources on the same continent as America which is defended by 56000 people?

This is a disaster just waiting to happen.

So you have no evidence/facts to help your claim, sorry but that is isn't enough for me.

No the decline in ice/snow is actually negligible with increasing snow in recent years as Greenland is well covered in snow and ice.

It has been untouched for many decades due to NATO presence now well known that Greenland is under American coverage TODAY!

Again you forget America has a MILITARY base there!

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Don't forget thermal expansion.

Around 6,000 years ago, the dominant driver of sea-level change shifted from rapid ice sheet melt to slower processes, with ice melt contributions significantly decreasing and the ocean warming causing thermal expansion; the overall rise slowed to a few centimeters per century (around 0.1-0.2 mm/yr), a much lower rate than the earlier period, though some areas saw temporary rises above modern levels before stabilizing, indicating thermal expansion played a growing, but balanced, role with land adjustments after the main glacial melting ended.
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Today they say that ice melt is responsible for ~2/3 of the ocean's rise and thermal expansion is responsible for ~1/3 of the ocean's rise. I call BS on that because the slope of the rise has not materially changed.

would you consider being 10% of
thegreeneststate.Com

New cyberground under my
WashigtonAmerica
group umbrella.

 

[EMH]

Most people don't know that icebergs are fresh water.


also floating icebergs don't add any "rise"
as they melt, as to equal displacement via volume.
However
I just found this
nasa disagrees with me on this point, so i'll try it for my self right here on the Trump Gulf of America.
I'll post the resilts
Now
I'm afraid of a Democrat war on icebergs.

Melting Ocean Ice Affects Sea Level – Unlike Ice Cubes in a Glass – NASA Sea Level Change Portal Melting Ocean Ice Affects Sea Level – Unlike Ice Cubes in a Glass

minor problem - there is NO ocean rise, none, nothing, nada... which is why they can't show us any photos.

 

[ding]

would you consider being 10% of
thegreeneststate.Com

New cyberground under my
WashigtonAmerica
group umbrella.

I don't understand what you are asking.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

minor problem - there is NO ocean rise, none, nothing, nada... which is why they can't show us any photos.

Yes We Can !
Hope & pocket change for everyone !

 

[Etymology gaslight]

From the Wall Street Journal 12/10 A synopsis

Germanys Potsdamn Inst. For Climate Impact Research Projected climate change
would cause 38 trillion in economic damage a year by 2049.

They also predicted rising CO2 would cause a reduction in Global GDP by 2100.
Their conclusion was the damage in the next 25 years would exceed the cost of stopping global warming by 6 times.
Climate change fanatics claimed look it cost more not to do anything!!!! Were all going to die !!!!!

Well guess what. It was all bullshit.

Scientists who read the study found serious math errors. "rows of data were wrongly printed as decimals not a percentage point." When corrected the results were insignificant
The study had so many errors Nature the publisher has retracted the study
So once again the climate change lie is exposed and falls apart because climate scientists cant do math.
This report wins the Hafar1014 Male cow feces award for Progressive Scientific stupidity
Its a pile of you know what on a nice wooden platform
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From the Wall Street Journal 12/10 A synopsis

Germanys Potsdamn Inst. For Climate Impact Research Projected climate change
would cause 38 trillion in economic damage a year by 2049.

They also predicted rising CO2 would cause a reduction in Global GDP by 2100.
Their conclusion was the damage in the next 25 years would exceed the cost of stopping global warming by 6 times.
Climate change fanatics claimed look it cost more not to do anything!!!! Were all going to die !!!!!

Well guess what. It was all bullshit.

Scientists who read the study found serious math errors. "rows of data were wrongly printed as decimals not a percentage point." When corrected the results were insignificant
The study had so many errors Nature the publisher has retracted the study
So once again the climate change lie is exposed and falls apart because climate scientists cant do math.
This report wins the Hafar1014 Male cow feces award for Progressive Scientific stupidity
Its a pile of you know what on a nice wooden platform
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#ponziweather

 

[jc456]

The climate change racket was and continues to be heavily promoted by Chinas MSS. An agency that ran the most successful, multi-operational campaign for decades. Perhaps the most successful in the history of the world. I mean truly mean that and as much as I begrudgingly respect their accomplishments, I can't deny their successes/

When people say "wow, those Russian (or Chinese) sleeper cells remain quiet for a decade before becoming operational, they are really patient", that pales in comparison to having thousands of agents and/or assets/influencers across a broad swath of Western industries and pillars of society to isolate and pick off one success after another.

I'd love to peek inside CIA or FBI files to see what they have gleaned over the years.

Just from the top of my head, education in America, politicians in California and New York specifically, NGOs, media outlets to promote agendas such as mass migration after the Syrian war (among many others), the climate change racket, gaming the economic information requirements to remain listed on the NYSE and other indexes, accessing Western markets and flooding them with heavily subsidized products until they force the shutting down of Western companies and create a de facto monopoly.

Really I could write a thesis on their successes. This isn't normal free market economic success, this is a dedicated, national campaign of all-out war on America in particular.

One has to wonder, if Trump didn't win in 2016, and, if covid hadn't happened and exposed the influence China had on international agencies such as the WHO and the iron grip they had on critical medical and supplies, would America have woken up?

If Hillary won, what direction would the U.S have gone?

We also know democrats are complicit to China

 

[Etymology gaslight]

We also know democrats are complicit to China

We all are, same for drugs.
If Americans stopped buying
there would be no market.
But there is, and we don't.

 

[jc456]

Don't forget thermal expansion.

Around 6,000 years ago, the dominant driver of sea-level change shifted from rapid ice sheet melt to slower processes, with ice melt contributions significantly decreasing and the ocean warming causing thermal expansion;

Bullshit no evidence .

 

[Mushroom]

Why does our dying bastard of a president want Greenland again?

What in the hell does that have to do with the topic at all?

All I see is another case of raving TDS.

 

[ding]

Bullshit no evidence .

Evidence for sea-level changes 6,000 years ago, marking the end of rapid post-glacial rise and the transition to a more stable phase (mid-Holocene), is documented through geological and archaeological data. Key indicators include submerged archaeological sites, fossil coral reefs, coastal sediment deposits, and microatolls, which show sea levels reached near-present levels, with some regions experiencing a "highstand" (higher than today) before retreating.
Key Evidence for Sea Level 6,000 Years Ago

• Submerged Coastal Settlements: Evidence from the Mediterranean, such as the 7,000-year-old submerged site of Tel Hreiz, Israel, suggests rising waters forced the abandonment of coastal areas.
• Microatolls as Sea-Level Proxies: Microatolls in Southeast Asia indicate that sea levels fluctuated wildly in the region, reaching peaks slightly above current levels around 6,000 years ago before falling.
• Geological Evidence (Beachrocks): In Southeast Vietnam, beachrock studies show a mid-Holocene "highstand" of about 1.4 meters above current levels, which was reached between 6.7 and 5.0 ka.
• Fossil Corals and Reefs: Studies of fossil corals and sediments show a 1.5–2.5 meter glacio-eustatic contribution to sea levels from melting ice sheets, contributing to a highstand roughly 5,500–6,000 years ago.
• Stabilization Point: By 6,000 years ago, global average sea levels had risen to near their present-day value, following a rapid, non-steady rise from the last ice age, as noted by the National Academies.
• Coastal Features: The Carnac stones in France, thought to be over 6,000 years old, may have been constructed to protect against rising, encroaching seas.

These data points demonstrate that after thousands of years of rapid sea-level rise, the pace slowed, leading to a maximum highstand that has since adjusted slightly to modern levels.

 

[Hafar1014]

Evidence for sea-level changes 6,000 years ago, marking the end of rapid post-glacial rise and the transition to a more stable phase (mid-Holocene), is documented through geological and archaeological data. Key indicators include submerged archaeological sites, fossil coral reefs, coastal sediment deposits, and microatolls, which show sea levels reached near-present levels, with some regions experiencing a "highstand" (higher than today) before retreating.
Key Evidence for Sea Level 6,000 Years Ago

• Submerged Coastal Settlements: Evidence from the Mediterranean, such as the 7,000-year-old submerged site of Tel Hreiz, Israel, suggests rising waters forced the abandonment of coastal areas.
• Microatolls as Sea-Level Proxies: Microatolls in Southeast Asia indicate that sea levels fluctuated wildly in the region, reaching peaks slightly above current levels around 6,000 years ago before falling.
• Geological Evidence (Beachrocks): In Southeast Vietnam, beachrock studies show a mid-Holocene "highstand" of about 1.4 meters above current levels, which was reached between 6.7 and 5.0 ka.
• Fossil Corals and Reefs: Studies of fossil corals and sediments show a 1.5–2.5 meter glacio-eustatic contribution to sea levels from melting ice sheets, contributing to a highstand roughly 5,500–6,000 years ago.
• Stabilization Point: By 6,000 years ago, global average sea levels had risen to near their present-day value, following a rapid, non-steady rise from the last ice age, as noted by the National Academies.
• Coastal Features: The Carnac stones in France, thought to be over 6,000 years old, may have been constructed to protect against rising, encroaching seas.

These data points demonstrate that after thousands of years of rapid sea-level rise, the pace slowed, leading to a maximum highstand that has since adjusted slightly to modern levels.

There is zero evidence humans cause climate change

 

[ding]

Bullshit no evidence .

Evidence for the thermal expansion of water—the increase in volume as temperature rises—is observed through significant sea-level rise, laboratory experiments, and daily applications. Data from NASA and ScienceDirect indicate that ocean warming accounts for over 50% of recent sea-level rise.


Key Evidence and Observations:

• Ocean Thermal Expansion: Satellite altimeters and Argo floats confirm that as the ocean absorbs heat (over 90% of excess heat from greenhouse gases), the water expands, contributing significantly to global sea-level rise.
• Laboratory Demonstrations: A simple flask filled with water and topped with a narrow tube shows a noticeable rise in water level when heated.
• Household Appliances: Water in a hot water heater expands as it is heated, which is why plumbing systems require expansion tanks to handle the increased volume.
• Liquid-in-Glass Thermometers: These devices rely on the thermal expansion of liquids (often colored alcohol or previously mercury) to measure temperature changes.
• Density Changes: As water heats up its density decreases, indicating that the molecules are spreading out and the volume is increasing.

 

[jc456]

Evidence for the thermal expansion of water—the increase in volume as temperature rises—is observed through significant sea-level rise, laboratory experiments, and daily applications. Data from NASA and ScienceDirect indicate that ocean warming accounts for over 50% of recent sea-level rise

did you ever take a cup of cold water and heat it up for coffee? I put in one cup cold get one cup hot. No increase in the water level. Water expands, but the ocean does not rise. I do enjoy the word significantly in the one paragraph. Just show us where it rose, it's simple

 

[jc456]

Evidence for sea-level changes 6,000 years ago, marking the end of rapid post-glacial rise and the transition to a more stable phase (mid-Holocene), is documented through geological and archaeological data. Key indicators include submerged archaeological sites, fossil coral reefs, coastal sediment deposits, and microatolls, which show sea levels reached near-present levels, with some regions experiencing a "highstand" (higher than today) before retreating.
Key Evidence for Sea Level 6,000 Years Ago

• Submerged Coastal Settlements: Evidence from the Mediterranean, such as the 7,000-year-old submerged site of Tel Hreiz, Israel, suggests rising waters forced the abandonment of coastal areas.
• Microatolls as Sea-Level Proxies: Microatolls in Southeast Asia indicate that sea levels fluctuated wildly in the region, reaching peaks slightly above current levels around 6,000 years ago before falling.
• Geological Evidence (Beachrocks): In Southeast Vietnam, beachrock studies show a mid-Holocene "highstand" of about 1.4 meters above current levels, which was reached between 6.7 and 5.0 ka.
• Fossil Corals and Reefs: Studies of fossil corals and sediments show a 1.5–2.5 meter glacio-eustatic contribution to sea levels from melting ice sheets, contributing to a highstand roughly 5,500–6,000 years ago.
• Stabilization Point: By 6,000 years ago, global average sea levels had risen to near their present-day value, following a rapid, non-steady rise from the last ice age, as noted by the National Academies.
• Coastal Features: The Carnac stones in France, thought to be over 6,000 years old, may have been constructed to protect against rising, encroaching seas.

These data points demonstrate that after thousands of years of rapid sea-level rise, the pace slowed, leading to a maximum highstand that has since adjusted slightly to modern levels.

ocean levels changed due to continent movements over the history of the movements. Totally different scenario than what is being promoted.