Flying dinosaurs and Earth climate change

[EMH]

You haven't won a single debate. You can't. You never post any evidence.

Too busy hiding from the Mossad hit squads. Plus, your tertiary syphilis.

Typical.

You don't have a single species on record with more than one heart.

These giant flying dinosaurs clearly have wings about 1/3rd the size, relative to frame, of current birds. The bio engineering studies all show none of the "flying dinosaurs" could fly with today's air pressure, it has to be 3-5 times today's SAP.

This study shows "quetz" couldn't pump its blood with one heart without air pressure 3-5 times today's. Amazing how BOTH the flying and the blood flow issues are solved by 3-5 times current SAP.... what a coincidence.

CO2 FRAUD is left to argue...

1. these "flying dinosaurs never flew"
2. they had more than one heart
3. you should trust a piece of amber CO2 FRAUD cooked up about air pressure, never mind they cannot tell us at what altitude the amber was at 68 million years ago.

When the atmosphere expands with more gas, the "tree line" on mountains goes higher up. That amber could have originated 3+ miles above sea level.

And I certainly would support those unaffiliated with CO2 FRAUD to check CO2 FRAUD's "calculation" of the amber sourced air pressure claim...


because even if you accept their claim, the overwhelming evidence is still that the bio engineers are correct.... and that the atmosphere expands when the amount of ice retreats, especially the ice more than a mile down on Antarctica. That's not happening on Earth. SAP isn't going up. The amber is cooked up fudged fraud to prevent the correct conclusion, that when Earth does actually warm and melt its ice, SAP goes WAY up....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Typical.

You don't have a single species on record with more than one heart.

These giant flying dinosaurs clearly have wings about 1/3rd the size, relative to frame, of current birds. The bio engineering studies all show none of the "flying dinosaurs" could fly with today's air pressure, it has to be 3-5 times today's SAP.

This study shows "quetz" couldn't pump its blood with one heart without air pressure 3-5 times today's. Amazing how BOTH the flying and the blood flow issues are solved by 3-5 times current SAP.... what a coincidence.

CO2 FRAUD is left to argue...

1. these "flying dinosaurs never flew"
2. they had more than one heart
3. you should trust a piece of amber CO2 FRAUD cooked up about air pressure, never mind they cannot tell us at what altitude the amber was at 68 million years ago.

When the atmosphere expands with more gas, the "tree line" on mountains goes higher up. That amber could have originated 3+ miles above sea level.

And I certainly would support those unaffiliated with CO2 FRAUD to check CO2 FRAUD's "calculation" of the amber sourced air pressure claim...


because even if you accept their claim, the overwhelming evidence is still that the bio engineers are correct.... and that the atmosphere expands when the amount of ice retreats, especially the ice more than a mile down on Antarctica. That's not happening on Earth. SAP isn't going up. The amber is cooked up fudged fraud to prevent the correct conclusion, that when Earth does actually warm and melt its ice, SAP goes WAY up....

The bio engineering studies all show none of the "flying dinosaurs" could fly with today's air pressure, it has to be 3-5 times today's SAP.

All of them? Link?

When the atmosphere expands with more gas, the "tree line" on mountains goes higher up.

When the planet warms, the "tree line" on mountains goes higher up. So what?

Still no evidence provided by you for your claims.

Show how much gas is frozen in the ice.

Post your calculations here.

 

[EMH]

When the atmosphere expands with more gas, the "tree line" on mountains goes higher up.

When the planet warms, the "tree line" on mountains goes higher up. So what?

You seem to forget why your first piece of FUDGED FRAUD on this subject got busted so quickly...

Amber can't "originate" without trees...

"Amber is fossilized tree resin"


DUH, so if the tree line of 68 million years ago was 20k feet - 4 miles high, yeah, then your "surface" air pressure


IS NOT ON THE SEA LEVEL DEFINED SURFACE

duh....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You seem to forget why your first piece of FUDGED FRAUD on this subject got busted so quickly...

Amber can't "originate" without trees...

"Amber is fossilized tree resin"


DUH, so if the tree line of 68 million years ago was 20k feet - 4 miles high, yeah, then your "surface" air pressure


IS NOT ON THE SEA LEVEL DEFINED SURFACE

duh....

You still haven't shown that any of my data was fudged.

Because you're retarded.

 

[EMH]

^^^^


When smoked again in debate, he always does the drive bye....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

^^^^
Whiney twaat is too stupid to find actual data.

 

[EMH]

In summary, the ancient flying dinosaurs prove that Earth Surface Air Pressure SAP has been way higher in the past than now. The pathetic attempt of CO2 FRAUD to "deny" that puts 8 hearts in one dino and claims the wings were just for decoration, not flying.

As with Mars and Pluto, when a planet warms, surface air pressure rises.

As with Mars and Pluto, when a planet's polar ice cap loses mass, surface air pressure rises.


CO2 FRAUD's problem is that Earth SAP is not rising, proving...


Earth has not warmed at all for at least the past 60 years
Earth has not experienced any net ice loss over at least the past 60 years

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In summary, the ancient flying dinosaurs prove that Earth Surface Air Pressure SAP has been way higher in the past than now. The pathetic attempt of CO2 FRAUD to "deny" that puts 8 hearts in one dino and claims the wings were just for decoration, not flying.

As with Mars and Pluto, when a planet warms, surface air pressure rises.

As with Mars and Pluto, when a planet's polar ice cap loses mass, surface air pressure rises.


CO2 FRAUD's problem is that Earth SAP is not rising, proving...


Earth has not warmed at all for at least the past 60 years
Earth has not experienced any net ice loss over at least the past 60 years

In summary, the ancient flying dinosaurs prove that Earth Surface Air Pressure SAP has been way higher in the past than now.

It doesn't prove that. And it doesn't prove that higher temperatures on Earth, today, would increase SAP.

As with Mars and Pluto, when a planet warms, surface air pressure rises.

Mars, with frozen CO2 on the surface, and Pluto, with frozen nitrogen on the surface, are not equivalent to Earth, with frozen water on the surface.

CO2 FRAUD's problem is that Earth SAP is not rising, proving...

EMH's fraud problem is that he's too stupid to find Earth data to support his claims.

 

[EMH]

It doesn't prove that

CO2 FRAUD, by denying that truth, insists, these winged dinosaurs never flew, and had 8 hearts... typical of "following the science" at CO2 FRAUD

Earth data

The OP has data. You don't like that data. So what.

Planet data..

SAP rises when Earth is closest to Sun, falls when Earth is furthest away from Sun
SAP rises when Mars is closest to Sun, falls when Mars is furthest away from Sun
SAP rises when Pluto is closest to Sun, falls when Pluto is furthest away from Sun

actual science is very much like that...

When the ancient flying dinosaurs flew, it was warmer, wetter, with much higher SAP, because there was little to no land near the poles and hence Earth had little to no ice, instead of 9 million cubic miles of it today.

Every planet with an atmosphere and polar caps has climate change that moves in two different directions..


1. warmer, wetter, polar caps melt, higher surface air pressure
2. colder, drier, lower surface air pressure, polar caps gain ice


If a planet's surface air pressure is not rising, that planet

1. is not warming
2. is not experiencing a net ice melt

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

CO2 FRAUD, by denying that truth, insists, these winged dinosaurs never flew, and had 8 hearts... typical of "following the science" at CO2 FRAUD








The OP has data. You don't like that data. So what.

Planet data..

SAP rises when Earth is closest to Sun, falls when Earth is furthest away from Sun
SAP rises when Mars is closest to Sun, falls when Mars is furthest away from Sun
SAP rises when Pluto is closest to Sun, falls when Pluto is furthest away from Sun

actual science is very much like that...

When the ancient flying dinosaurs flew, it was warmer, wetter, with much higher SAP, because there was little to no land near the poles and hence Earth had little to no ice, instead of 9 million cubic miles of it today.

Every planet with an atmosphere and polar caps has climate change that moves in two different directions..


1. warmer, wetter, polar caps melt, higher surface air pressure
2. colder, drier, lower surface air pressure, polar caps gain ice


If a planet's surface air pressure is not rising, that planet

1. is not warming
2. is not experiencing a net ice melt

CO2 FRAUD, by denying that truth, insists, these winged dinosaurs never flew, and had 8 hearts... typical of "following the science" at CO2 FRAUD

I don't know who you're even whining about here.
I don't know if they had 8 hearts and I couldn't care less.

SAP rises when Earth is closest to Sun, falls when Earth is furthest away from Sun

Prove it.
Post temperature and SAP data from 5 Southern hemisphere locations in January and July.
Post temperature and SAP data from 5 Northern hemisphere locations in January and July.

warmer, wetter, polar caps melt, higher surface air pressure

If only you had any data from Earth to support your claim.

 

[EMH]

The CO2 FRAUD insists, SAP has some "winter summer oscillation" pattern. Actually, SAP is the same at all locations on Earth save minor noise from weather fluctuations.

So what causes global SAP to rise in Jan? Is it

A) that's when Earth is closest to Sun and getting 7% more energy from Sun vs July

or

B) it goes up during "winter"


LOL!!!

Air pressure is correlated with temperature in every instance. CO2 FRAUD is trying to claim a planet's atmosphere is different. It isn't. Pinned by Mars and Pluto, they are claiming it is JUST Earth .... lol!!!


What matters to atmospheric air pressure is not LOCAL temperature, but PLANETARY temperature...

which is the T here...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The CO2 FRAUD insists, SAP has some "winter summer oscillation" pattern. Actually, SAP is the same at all locations on Earth save minor noise from weather fluctuations.

So what causes global SAP to rise in Jan? Is it

A) that's when Earth is closest to Sun and getting 7% more energy from Sun vs July

or

B) it goes up during "winter"


LOL!!!

Air pressure is correlated with temperature in every instance. CO2 FRAUD is trying to claim a planet's atmosphere is different. It isn't. Pinned by Mars and Pluto, they are claiming it is JUST Earth .... lol!!!


What matters to atmospheric air pressure is not LOCAL temperature, but PLANETARY temperature...

which is the T here...

Your confusion about the usefulness of that formula makes me laugh.

So what causes global SAP to rise in Jan? Is it

A) that's when Earth is closest to Sun and getting 7% more energy from Sun vs July

To support your claim, you should show the temperature and SAP in a location during winter
and the temperature and SAP in the same location, when it receives more energy from the Sun in summer.

Why not use Chicago first?

Then, if you're not a moron, why don't you do the same thing for a location in Australia?

 

[EMH]

you should show the temperature and SAP in a location during winter
and the temperature and SAP in the same location

pinned everywhere else, the CO2 FRAUD insists, air pressure is about LOCAL temps except the T in the equation is the PLANET's temp...

LOL!!!

And whether it is 40F or 90F outside, and we in Nashville sometimes get that change in 48 hours, the air pressure doesn't change at all...


but it is LOCAL TEMP and Weather and drive byes and flying dinosaurs with 8 hearts that never flew.... what they cling to here...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

pinned everywhere else, the CO2 FRAUD insists, air pressure is about LOCAL temps except the T in the equation is the PLANET's temp...

LOL!!!

And whether it is 40F or 90F outside, and we in Nashville sometimes get that change in 48 hours, the air pressure doesn't change at all...


but it is LOCAL TEMP and Weather and drive byes and flying dinosaurs with 8 hearts that never flew.... what they cling to here...

Wait, is that EMH running away like a little coward instead of posting data to support his claims?

I'm SHOCKED!

 

[EMH]

Wait, is that EMH running away like a little coward instead of posting data to support his claims?

I'm SHOCKED!

That is the data.

When your neighborhood has a rapid temperature fluctuation, it does not change the SAP, refuting you and CO2 FRAUD's pathetic attempt to deny all the rest of the truth there...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That is the data.

When your neighborhood has a rapid temperature fluctuation, it does not change the SAP, refuting you and CO2 FRAUD's pathetic attempt to deny all the rest of the truth there...

Cool story dude!

Now post actual data.

You should show the temperature and SAP in a location during winter
and the temperature and SAP in the same location, when it receives more energy from the Sun in summer.

Why not use Chicago first?

Then, if you're not a moron, why don't you do the same thing for a location in Australia?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

pinned everywhere else, the CO2 FRAUD insists, air pressure is about LOCAL temps except the T in the equation is the PLANET's temp...

LOL!!!

And whether it is 40F or 90F outside, and we in Nashville sometimes get that change in 48 hours, the air pressure doesn't change at all...


but it is LOCAL TEMP and Weather and drive byes and flying dinosaurs with 8 hearts that never flew.... what they cling to here...

And whether it is 40F or 90F outside, and we in Nashville sometimes get that change in 48 hours, the air pressure doesn't change at all...

But first you said.......

when a planet warms, surface air pressure rises.

And then you said a 50 degree increase in Nashville doesn't cause SAP to rise.

Are the voices in your head taking turns posting contradictory claims?

 

[EMH]

You should show the temperature and SAP in a location during winter

One location is not PLANETARY, it is LOCAL. CO2 FRAUD refuses to accept that truth.

And whether it is 40F or 90F outside, and we in Nashville sometimes get that change in 48 hours, the air pressure doesn't change at all...

But first you said.......

when a planet warms, surface air pressure rises.

And then you said a 50 degree increase in Nashville doesn't cause SAP to rise.

endlessly CO2 FRAUD insists, planetary and local are interchangeable.... except they aren't.


If one accepted CO2 FRAUD's claim of 2 degrees of warming and plugged that into the air pressure equation, it would document that air pressure would go up. But that's not the case, because CO2 FRAUD has been lying and fudging data for decades on a planet NOT WARMING AT ALL.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

One location is not PLANETARY, it is LOCAL. CO2 FRAUD refuses to accept that truth.









endlessly CO2 FRAUD insists, planetary and local are interchangeable.... except they aren't.


If one accepted CO2 FRAUD's claim of 2 degrees of warming and plugged that into the air pressure equation, it would document that air pressure would go up. But that's not the case, because CO2 FRAUD has been lying and fudging data for decades on a planet NOT WARMING AT ALL.

Planetary numbers (local numbers averaged together) show the opposite of actual local readings? That's weird.

endlessly CO2 FRAUD insists, planetary and local are interchangeable.

Ignorant mentally ill dude thinks planetary and local are unrelated.

If one accepted CO2 FRAUD's claim of 2 degrees of warming

I don't know who you're talking about. It's not me.

and plugged that into the air pressure equation, it would document that air pressure would go up.

Stop whining and actually plug in the numbers.

Use any number, run the calculation and post the results.
Add 2 degrees to the initial number, run the calculation again and post the results.

 

[EMH]

Planetary numbers (local numbers averaged together)

trusting CO2 FRAUD's fudgebakers....

show the opposite of actual local readings?

and we are waiting for you to stop being a lying coward and go under oath or to an FBI office and make a sworn statement about the WU Sydney fudge, but you won't do that because you know it is fudge. Other than that piece of fudge, you have nothing.

SAP rises all over Earth in January because Earth is warmest in January because during that month Earth is closest to Sun.

thinks planetary and local are unrelated

and documents it, as during the past million years Greenland froze while North America thawed....

I don't know who you're talking about. It's not me.

LMFAO!!!

So Earth hasn't warmed, as SAP proves?

LOL!!!