Dear Muslims: What is it YOU Don't Understand??

Bonnie

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We, the non-Muslims—the infidels, heathens, unbelievers, apostates, enemies of Allah, najis (soiled), as you prefer to call us—would like to know what is it that you don’t understand and what is it that makes you behave so badly toward us? You blame us for your problems and believe if we embrace Islam and help establish the Islamic ummah, the earth would be cleansed of us, transformed to paradise, and all your problems disappear?

Respectfully, we disagree. We believe that you and your system of belief are at the core of your problems; that you need to critically examine the facts, rather than conveniently blame others for your ills. Keep in mind that beliefs and ideas make people human, that beliefs are roadmaps of life. To the extent that the roadmap is rational and enlightened, the path of life is illumined, pitfalls are avoided and obstacles are removed. The terrain of life has greatly changed since the roadmap of Islam was given to the wondering primitives of Arabian Peninsula.

The twenty first century presents great challenges and opportunities that demand new ways of thinking and behaving. The doctrine of Islam may have been appropriate for the dessert dwellers of some 1400 years ago, the people you yourselves stigmatize as “The Ignorant.” It is dysfunctional today to say the least. As a matter of fact, Islam went astray from the very beginning and inflicted a great deal of suffering on both its followers as well as those who resisted its advance.

Early on, Prophet Muhammad explicitly said, “There is no compulsion in religion.” He further confirmed that admonition, “For you, your religion; and for me, my religion.” Why is it that as soon as you gathered enough power, you violated those exhortations and set out to force your belief and way of life on others at the point of the sword? You further conveniently ignored your own teaching by unsheathing your sword at “the people of the book”—Jews and Christians. You spared them death only if they converted or consented to pay you backbreaking religious taxes of jizya.

Your cruel successful subjugation of the people of the Arabian Peninsula whetted your appetite for further conquests. You ventured into the civilized world—to Persia, the Levant, Spain, and eventually to the gates of Vienna. Cruelty and terror were your instruments of policy—weapons you liberally use today whenever and wherever you are able.

Contempt and hostility toward non-Muslims living under your rule as well as those outside of your domain have characterized your attitude and behavior throughout the history. Isn’t it enough? Is it not now the time to stand back and take a good look at what is the root cause of this pathological state of affairs?

Life is precious. It is to be protected, nurtured and celebrated. Mankind is moving, perhaps at a glacier pace, toward reconciliation, ever-expanding inclusiveness without any group or ideology imposing itself on others. Any attempt against this trend of unity in diversity is doomed to failure, as exemplified by the demise of fascism and communism.

Your charter, the Quran, in some parts, preaches discrimination, death and imposition of its dogma on everyone. The political system of Islam, just like fascism and communism, is a dysfunctional ideology that needs to be abandoned. Humanity has matured considerably since the time of Muhammad. In order to continue its forward march, mankind must follow a roadmap appropriate for its age and state of development. It is foolish to insist that a book written over 1400 years ago must serve as the one and only guide for humanity.

Progress thrives in a marketplace of free ideas, where beliefs and viewpoints, not people, clash. It is through the unimpeded clash of ideas that the best decisions and actions are reached. Political Islam is anathema to this invaluable principle. By forcing itself on any and all people it could, Islam violated this vital principle and it aims to continue to do so to this day. Islam’s inflexible and intolerant dogmatism is at the heart of Islamic world’s stagnation and backwardness. It is evident that staying put, so to speak, does not allow going forward. It is not the non-Muslim world, the convenient scapegoat, but Islam itself which is the culprit for your chronic ills.

The non-Muslims of the twenty first century treasure freedom in all its forms and are not going to lend their necks passively to the yoke of blind obedience and imitation.

Is the present argument too difficult to understand? Is it too threatening to the security of your mindset to concede its validity? Please have the courage and take that fateful step. Inhale the life-nurturing fragrance of freedom. Islam is a slaveholder. It feels that it owns you; it condemns you as apostate to be beheaded if you dare to leave its chains. The non-Muslims, by contrast, respect you as a free human and support your inalienable right to believe whatever you want to believe—even if it is a non-belief. If you still wish to wrap yourself in your suffocating security blanket—Islam—please keep it to yourself and refrain from forcing it on others.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5686
 
This war is hardly about religion, though I know many would like to make it seem that way.

This war is a continuance of World War 1, World War 2, and the Cold war.

In this situation, religion is used much like nationalism, as a tool of propaganda to round the masses.
 
Niccolò Matteo said:
This war is hardly about religion, though I know many would like to make it seem that way.

This war is a continuance of World War 1, World War 2, and the Cold war.

In this situation, religion is used much like nationalism, as a tool of propaganda to round the masses.

This war is very much about religion. It began over a thousand years ago when Muslims attempted to expel anything non-Muslim from the Middle East. It's awar that has continued from that time to this, in one form or another. WWI, II and the Cold War are relative newcomers to the game.

It's a clash of cultures based on religions that will end only with the subjugation and/or annilhilation of one side or the other.
 
GunnyL said:
This war is very much about religion. It began over a thousand years ago when Muslims attempted to expel anything non-Muslim from the Middle East. It's awar that has continued from that time to this, in one form or another. WWI, II and the Cold War are relative newcomers to the game.

It's a clash of cultures based on religions that will end only with the subjugation and/or annilhilation of one side or the other.

Oh it goes back far longer than that my friend.

I fear that this war, is a war that has been fought since the days of the 12 tribes of Israel. Perhaps, even farther than that.

My point was, that this particular stage of what's going on, is just a reliving of the Cold war and the World Wars.

The Soviets backed the Arabs, and logically, the US backed the Israelis.

This is where the US starts to peak their little heads in.
 
Niccolò Matteo said:
Oh it goes back far longer than that my friend.

I fear that this war, is a war that has been fought since the days of the 12 tribes of Israel. Perhaps, even farther than that.

Not in a global sense. In a global sense, this war didn't begin until a concerted effort was made my Muslims to expel all non-Muslims from an entire region of the Earth.

The wars fought during the days of the 12 tribes of Israel were mostly for local control, not a concerted effort by all Muslims to destroy all Israelis.
 
GunnyL said:
Not in a global sense. In a global sense, this war didn't begin until a concerted effort was made my Muslims to expel all non-Muslims from an entire region of the Earth.

The wars fought during the days of the 12 tribes of Israel were mostly for local control, not a concerted effort by all Muslims to destroy all Israelis.

You don't seem to understand that it doesn't matter whether there name is "Muslim" or "Benjamite".

Islam is simply the religious blanket thrown over this branch of culture.

As for it attempting to expel all non-Muslims, that is fallacious propaganda.
 
Niccolò Matteo said:
You don't seem to understand that it doesn't matter whether there name is "Muslim" or "Benjamite".

Islam is simply the religious blanket thrown over this branch of culture.

As for it attempting to expel all non-Muslims, that is fallacious propaganda.

Of course I don't understand. Was just waiting for that.:rolleyes:

Fallacious propaganda would be anything contrary to historical fact. Kinda like what you're trying to sell.
 
Judaism also calls non-Jews "unclean": a "shiksa," or non-Jewish woman, literally means "unclean." The Talmud, like the allegation against the Koran, also calls for the destruction of the other peoples: "Even the best of the gentiles must be killed," it says.

But you never hear about that. The media in America has Arabs as bad, all the time, and Jews as good, all the time. But it's more complicated than that.

I don't want the West taken over by dirty Arabs, but I also don't want to fight on the side of the Jews, who've done more to hurt the West and its white Christian peoples than the Arabs ever have.
 
GunnyL said:
This war is very much about religion. It began over a thousand years ago when Muslims attempted to expel anything non-Muslim from the Middle East.

The forced conversion and expulsion of christians from some muslim areas did not occur until after the first crusade. Until that time both christians and jews were tolerated throughout islam - although as 'non-believers' they were more heavily taxed.

The first crusade is a crucial turning point in islamic-christian relationships.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade
It was instigated as a result of an appeal by the Byzantine emperor for assistance from the west to fight the invading Rum-Seljuks who were recent converts to islam and of Turkish origins- not Arab. The Seljuk Turks were nomadic herdsmen from the steppes of central asia and were indeed cruel and bloodthirsty and did persecute christians, but also anyone else that stood in their way.

The rulers in the west used the appeal by the emperor as an excuse for plunder and conquest, and what other way to stir up the basest instincts of the masses than to instigate holy war against muslims in the name of christianity. Ofcourse an inevitable backlash by the arabs followed - and the christians were kicked out/ converted.

Then, ofcourse, we must not forget the following expulsions/ forced conversions of non christians from 'an entire region of the earth':
1182: French jews
1290: English jews
1492: Spanish jews and muslims
1492: Sicily: jews and muslims
1495: Lithuania: jews
1496: Portugal: jews
1510: Germany: jews
etc. etc.

Lets not kid ourselves; until recent times christian Europe was far more religiously 'cleansed' than muslim lands ever were, as the christian communities in modern day Iraq, Egypt and Lebanon bear witness to. Until the founding of Israel there were even Jewish communities in the Muslim world (there was a large one in Baghdad).
 

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