What liberals don't understand about "MAGA"

[Mac1958]

The whole MAGA mess assumes that there is something fundamentally wrong with America.

Bullshit

It's the old playbook: Step One, create a problem. Step Two, declare you're the only one who can fix it, but it has to be your way. It's not new, and it's one of the biggest drawbacks of hardcore partisanship.

But they've added a new wrinkle: Tearing down the trust in the institutions that we need, rather than doing the heavy lifting of fixing them. They think that, somehow, the chaos that ensues won't be more destructive than the original problems.

They're the child in the sandbox.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I think most people on the left misunderstood what Trump meant by maga. You’re right, in that the left has tried to define maga on their own, usually trying to paint it as something racist or a detriment to certain people.

I think Trump has told you all exactly what it means. America is no longer respected in the eyes of the world. We are no longer the powerhouse of manufacturing, and leading the charge in technology.

There are a few other things I’m sure, but that’s what he meant by maga. It wasn’t about returning America to a time and age or any of that. It was about returning America to being the best the world has to offer in many areas, and making America a respected place.


That’s all that maga was. Dems just took it and tried to assign other things to it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The whole MAGA mess assumes that there is something fundamentally wrong with America.

Bullshit

There is something wrong with America. America should be the leader in production, innovation, and technology. Instead, we’re buying nearly all of our stuff from overseas.

Take a look at much of our produce in the stores. Nearly all of it is shipped in from Mexico. Why? We can grow that stuff right here in America. Same with most other things we buy. Much of it made in China or Taiwan. Why can’t we make most of our own stuff? Why did we have to become a country dependent on buying things from other countries.

We should not need to import oil to run our economy, we should be extracting our own oil and refining it here in America.

We have homeless people and many of them vets, yet we send tens of billions in aid around the world every year to help other countries, while our own citizens can’t get any help.


There are a lot of things wrong with America, the first step in trying to fix them is recognizing there is a problem.

 

[SweetSue92]

You'll often hear them say, "well don't you want to make America great again?"

So they are clearly conditioned to believe that THEIR way is the ONLY way. That's it. This is the only way to do it. Kind of like religion.

It's damn near impossible to communicate with thinking that is that shallow.

Endless bureaucracies in DC leading to:

Paper masks
lockdowns
worthless vaccines

Harmful and stupid social policies like:

Men on women's sports teams
Pride everything
Woke, woke, woke

The DC class telling us everything we do is wrong and everything we believe is wrong if:

We don't believe in climate change
We don't want an electric vehicle
We love our gas stoves

And on, and on, and on. You're either too stupid to understand this or gaslighting

 

[SweetSue92]

"MAGA" technically means "make America great again." Liberals have never really understood what "MAGA" really represents to people, why it appeals to so many, and as a result they've never been able to counteract its effect. Democrats and liberals have spent years trying to define "MAGA" on their own terms. And what they don't ever seem to realize is that they're playing right into the MAGA strategy, creating more MAGA folks and reinforcing the MAGA appeal those who already have bought in.

So let's see if I can help Democrats have a breakthrough.

MAGA is a vague idea. It's amorphous. No, it doesn't mean whatever someone wants it to mean. It means whatever someone needs it to mean. MAGA is one simple thing: the affirmation of nostalgia.

Everyone is nostalgic at times. Everyone has happy memories of a different time. Everyone looks back fondly at something. Even if you've had the best, most amazing life possible, there will still be room for nostalgia. But the thing is, not all nostalgia is about what you did. Sometimes nostalgia is what you thought. It can be something you saw. It can even be something you thought you saw, and then longed for, from a very long time ago.

Democrats have been keen to say that "MAGA" people are nostalgic for white supremacy, Jim Crow, and things like that. In other words, Democrats keep trying to define MAGA on Democrats own terms. The Democrats have largely adopted an identity politics world view, so they can only perceive MAGA as an expression of identity politics. This is why when a black person buys into MAGA, that person is accused of being an Uncle Tom. But every time Democrats do this, they can't seem to figure out that all they're doing with this rhetoric is inflaming other people's nostalgia for a time before the identity politics took hold.

MAGA is nostalgia. But not for anything specific. MAGA enables people to be nostalgic about whatever you want. Maybe you have a nostalgic memory of being a kid in the mid 80s, about 5 or 6 years old, twisting the channel knob on the TV after Sesame Street just ended, and Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous comes on. There's Donald, doing rich people stuff. You're playing with your Barbies and fantasizing about champagne wishes and caviar dreams, whatever that means as Mommy walks in with a PBJ sandwich with the crust cut off (a daily ritual). As you reminisce about those times, you happen to glance over at your own 5 year old daughter, playing with her tablet on a Saturday afternoon. And as you hand her a freshly unwrapped Uncrustable (a mere weekend ritual), it occurs to you that things are just different now. Your own childhood was somehow much more wholesome. It was a simpler time. It was more direct. It was real. You wonder how you're going to raise your own daughter to really feel something out of this life. Whatever else may have been wrong with the world, you got here, and you're a good person. And as the Democrats keep telling you, the world is a chaotic, awful place, full of terrible people.

And that is when it starts to set in. It's all a very personal experience.

Democrats need to realize that the more they tell others what MAGA means, the more they sound like idiots. Because you can't tell people what to feel when they remember their own younger life fondly. You can't demand what facts have to be inserted to other person's memories. You can't tell other people that their life was wrong all those years ago.

When people hear "make America great again" the greatness they envision is their own, personal life. And that is why anything Democrats try to associate MAGA with can be so easily ignored by adherents. That's why they can ignore so many of the things they witness that they don't like. Because MAGA is relative. Adherents understand MAGA as being relative to themselves, in their own terms, not yours.

You can't neutralize MAGA, like baking soda neutralizing acid. You have to supersede it. If Democrats can't do that, then they'll be losing to MAGA for decades yet to come.

This is a lot of words to say something simple:

The DC class grew and grew. Perhaps they have always been disdainful of regular Americans, and forgot how to disguise it. Either way, their disgust at us--and their feeling of superiority--can no longer be hidden.

That's it. That's what's different.

Everything coming out of DC is not "trust the American people" but "These people don't know what's good for them"

And we have had enough

 

[Moonglow]

I think most people on the left misunderstood what Trump meant by maga. You’re right, in that the left has tried to define maga on their own, usually trying to paint it as something racist or a detriment to certain people.

I think Trump has told you all exactly what it means. America is no longer respected in the eyes of the world. We are no longer the powerhouse of manufacturing, and leading the charge in technology.

There are a few other things I’m sure, but that’s what he meant by maga. It wasn’t about returning America to a time and age or any of that. It was about returning America to being the best the world has to offer in many areas, and making America a respected place.


That’s all that maga was. Dems just took it and tried to assign other things to it.

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[Moonglow]

This is a lot of words to say something simple:

The DC class grew and grew. Perhaps they have always been disdainful of regular Americans, and forgot how to disguise it. Either way, their disgust at us--and their feeling of superiority--can no longer be hidden.

That's it. That's what's different.

Everything coming out of DC is not "trust the American people" but "These people don't know what's good for them"

And we have had enough

“You have good genes, you know that, right?” Trump said at a recent campaign rally.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/politics/donald-trump-genes-historical-context-eugenics/index.html

 

[Moonglow]

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/donald-trump-says-he-is-much-better-looking-than-kamala-harris-but-acknowledges-that-she-s-a-very-101723968464811.html

"I'm much better looking than her," Trump said, saying Time Magazine's illustrator was "too generous" with Harris’ portrait.

 

[SweetSue92]

“You have good genes, you know that, right?” Trump said at a recent campaign rally.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/politics/donald-trump-genes-historical-context-eugenics/index.html

Oh no, where's the fainting couch!!! This hurt my feelings

 

[SeaMajor7]

After saying “it doesn’t mean whatever you want it to mean”…you define it as meaning whatever you want it to mean.

MAGA does nothing but “validation of hate” at its core. It’s lazy and perverse.

Because you say so?
It does nothing of that sort.
What you are saying is PROJECTION.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

After saying “it doesn’t mean whatever you want it to mean”…you define it as meaning whatever you want it to mean.

MAGA does nothing but “validation of hate” at its core. It’s lazy and perverse.

You didn't get it at all. It's not whatever you want it to mean, it's whatever they want it to mean. Come on, you're smart. You should be able to understand that.

 

[SeaMajor7]

You didn't get it at all. It's not whatever you want it to mean, it's whatever they want it to mean. Come on, you're smart. You should be able to understand that.

You're trying too hard to "define" MAGA into what you want it to mean.
Of course there are various ways to DESCRIBE it, but it really is basically the desire to kick Marxism to the curb and into the trash heap of history once and for all.

Soviet Russia spent a CENTURY infiltrating our edu, media, and governance with Marxist Leninist bullshit only to see all that crap ultimately FAIL in ..........Russia.

Now we're left with the residue of all that.
Nonsensical DEI, gender confusion, identity politics, and multiple generations being TAUGHT that America is BAD as founded is a direct result of the damage done by the subverted demoralized zombies that were swept up by the Marxist stupidity.

This all has to be recognized and ENDED.
It's time to MAGA.

 

[BlueGin]

I've read your posts. You are partisan drone, live it or not. I really don't shit either way.

He is not a partisan…he is a contrarian.

 

[BlueGin]

hahaha…cool theory.
Why didn’t you Lib-Lites deploy a Chase Oliver type for the 2016 election or why wasn’t Gary Johnson able to sell the “fed up” folks you speak of?

Chase Oliver is the worst candidate the Libertarians have put up yet.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

MAGA is one simple thing: the affirmation of nostalgia.

i. Mac-7 xviii sick MAGA comment : Aside from killing innocent children there is a silver lining for repubs. Virtually all the children who are killed were the spawn of liberals. mvcN 231121 Stftma00018

ii. Dragonlady xxviii.i in reply to 18: Not true. Republican women have just as many abortions as Democrats. 13% of abortions, that's just over 100,000 abortions per year, are obtained by Evangelical Christian women. drgnldy 231121 Vrftma00028

iii.i healthmyths mdlxxxiv.i reply to 28: About 2.2% of abortions are due to other physical health concerns of the woman. hlthmyths 241022 Srftma01584

iii.ii healthmyths mdlxxxiv.ii posted info in reply to 28: Other reasons for abortion include: What the data says about abortion in the U.S. But one of the largest % of abortions is women over age 30 that have had 1 or more abortions already. hlthmyths 241022 Srftma01584

iv.i Dragonlady mdxciv.v reply to 1584 : I had to have a D&C after each of my miscarriages, and in the case of the second miscarriage, the dead fetus was still in my womb, when I had the "abortion". It had been dead for more than 2 weeks, and I was in extreme danger of sepsis at that point. drgnldy 241022. Vrftma01594

v. DukeU mdxcvi reply to 1594: Miscarriage has absolutely NOTHING to do with abortion. Why do you have to try and muddy the waters with this irrelevant talking point? No one has suggested you carry around a dead baby in your womb. dvkvv 241022 Srftma01596

vi. NotfooledbyW mdciii reply to 1596: miscarriage is not a walk in the park on a sunny day. nfbw 241022 Vrftma01603

vii. DukeU mdcvi reply to 1603 : {miscarriage nfbw} Has nothing to do with abortion. dvkvv 241022 Srftma01606

viii. NotfooledbyW mdcviii reply to 1606: When your “pro torture women” argument fails; you ban whatever knocks it down. nfbw 241022 Vrftma01608

ix. Frankenstein mdcix reply to 1608: Who made them get pregnant? frnknstn 241023 Srftma01609

x. NotfooledbyW mdcxv reply to 1609 : What harm comes to you when an unwanted pregnancy happens in the home next to yours? nfbw 241022 Vrftma01610

xi. Rawley mdcxv reply to 1610: Bizzare argument. What harm comes to you when the husband next door shoots his wife in the face? rwly 241022 Srftma01615

xii. NotfooledbyW mdcxviii reply to 1615: Harm comes to all in a society if the criminal murderer is not apprehended and punished when there are no homicide laws to enforce. We have no civilization if that were the case.

That is the obvious harm that every adult in a civilized society should know. nfbw 241022 Vrftma01618

xiii. Rawley mdclix reply to : Well, all in a civilized society are harmed when we allow the lives of the most innocent to be taken. Something you obviously haven't learned. Which is quite sad. rwly 241023 Vrftma01649

xiv. NotfooledbyW mcdli reply to 1649: When a woman terminates her own pregnancy within a few weeks of learning she is pregnant by using the abortion pill in the privacy of her home, how are you harmed? nfbw 241022 Vrftma01651

xv.i Rawley mcdlxiii reply to 1651: When a husband shoots his wife in the face in the privacy of their home, how are you harmed? rwly 241023 Srftma01663

xv.ii Rawley mcdlxiii reply to 1651: You can't make a logical, rational argument there is a difference. rwly 241023 Srftma01663

xviii. NotfooledbyW mdclxxiv reply to 1663: I am not harmed directly by any distant criminal atrocity; that much is true.

The criminal atrocity itself directly impacts the victim, and close relatives, friends, and coworkers, business associates etc; so there is harm to “others” in that aspect of criminal violence.

This is my specific answer to paragraph { xv.i & xv.ii: } Please respond accordingly.

The larger point referring to the necessity of criminal prosecution and subsequent restriction of liberty of whoever is convicted of a violent crime. Murderers, kidnappers, rapists and thieves must be apprehended, arrested, indicted, arraigned, tried, convicted and punished for their actions. If none of that were to be the reality we cannot have peace, harmony, high quality of life, and all the other necessities for civil order. Your life and your family’s life and my life and my family‘s life would be harmed if the husband will never be prosecuted for shooting his wife in the face., Men would be shooting their wives in the face at will etc. and etc.. chaos society is horrible to every single member and society.

You and I would be harmed because civil tranquility and order would cease to exist.

{When a woman terminates her pregnancy under safe medical supervision as cited in paragraph { xiv. nfbw } and everything she does is {legal} as it is under the Ohio Constitution recently passed; there is no breakdown in civil order in anyway shape or form after a husband shoots his wife in the face, because there are laws on the books to justify locking him up for crimes if convicted. nfbwRev}

That’s what I mean when I say no harm comes to you and the entirety of society when a woman terminates her own pregnancy according to proper medical advice and procedures. nfbw 241023 Vrftma01674

xix.i. Rawley mdclxxviii. reply to 1674: "terminates her own pregnancy' Does your use of that euphemism somehow shield you from the unassailable fact that she is taking a life? rwly 241023 Srftma01678

xix.ii. Rawley mdclxxviii. reply to 1674
Some of seek to protect all life, particularly of the most vulnerable. Some don't. You've made it crystal clear into which camp you stand. rwly 241023 Srftma01678


xx. NotfooledbyW clxxv reply to 1:
MAGA is populist authoritarianism fanatically driven by white Christian nationalist culture war.religiosity..

Saint Rawley demonstrates the mental mush of the aforementioned “culture war“ fanaticism in paragraphs xix.i. and xix.ii

I shall explain to any MAGA who can set aside their culture warrior emotions for 20 minutes or so? nfbw 241026 Vwldua00175

 

[BlueGin]

i. Mac-7 xviii sick MAGA comment : Aside from killing innocent children there is a silver lining for repubs. Virtually all the children who are killed were the spawn of liberals. mvcN 231121 Stftma00018

ii. Dragonlady xxviii.i in reply to 18: Not true. Republican women have just as many abortions as Democrats. 13% of abortions, that's just over 100,000 abortions per year, are obtained by Evangelical Christian women. drgnldy 231121 Vrftma00028

iii.i healthmyths mdlxxxiv.i reply to 28: About 2.2% of abortions are due to other physical health concerns of the woman. hlthmyths 241022 Srftma01584

iii.ii healthmyths mdlxxxiv.ii posted info in reply to 28: Other reasons for abortion include: What the data says about abortion in the U.S. But one of the largest % of abortions is women over age 30 that have had 1 or more abortions already. hlthmyths 241022 Srftma01584

iv.i Dragonlady mdxciv.v reply to 1584 : I had to have a D&C after each of my miscarriages, and in the case of the second miscarriage, the dead fetus was still in my womb, when I had the "abortion". It had been dead for more than 2 weeks, and I was in extreme danger of sepsis at that point. drgnldy 241022. Vrftma01594

v. DukeU mdxcvi reply to 1594: Miscarriage has absolutely NOTHING to do with abortion. Why do you have to try and muddy the waters with this irrelevant talking point? No one has suggested you carry around a dead baby in your womb. dvkvv 241022 Srftma01596

vi. NotfooledbyW mdciii reply to 1596: miscarriage is not a walk in the park on a sunny day. nfbw 241022 Vrftma01603

vii. DukeU mdcvi reply to 1603 : {miscarriage nfbw} Has nothing to do with abortion. dvkvv 241022 Srftma01606

viii. NotfooledbyW mdcviii reply to 1606: When your “pro torture women” argument fails; you ban whatever knocks it down. nfbw 241022 Vrftma01608

ix. Frankenstein mdcix reply to 1608: Who made them get pregnant? frnknstn 241023 Srftma01609

x. NotfooledbyW mdcxv reply to 1609 : What harm comes to you when an unwanted pregnancy happens in the home next to yours? nfbw 241022 Vrftma01610

xi. Rawley mdcxv reply to 1610: Bizzare argument. What harm comes to you when the husband next door shoots his wife in the face? rwly 241022 Srftma01615

xii. NotfooledbyW mdcxviii reply to 1615: Harm comes to all in a society if the criminal murderer is not apprehended and punished when there are no homicide laws to enforce. We have no civilization if that were the case.

That is the obvious harm that every adult in a civilized society should know. nfbw 241022 Vrftma01618

xiii. Rawley mdclix reply to : Well, all in a civilized society are harmed when we allow the lives of the most innocent to be taken. Something you obviously haven't learned. Which is quite sad. rwly 241023 Vrftma01649

xiv. NotfooledbyW mcdli reply to 1649: When a woman terminates her own pregnancy within a few weeks of learning she is pregnant by using the abortion pill in the privacy of her home, how are you harmed? nfbw 241022 Vrftma01651

xv.i Rawley mcdlxiii reply to 1651: When a husband shoots his wife in the face in the privacy of their home, how are you harmed? rwly 241023 Srftma01663

xv.ii Rawley mcdlxiii reply to 1651: You can't make a logical, rational argument there is a difference. rwly 241023 Srftma01663

xviii. NotfooledbyW mdclxxiv reply to 1663: I am not harmed directly by any distant criminal atrocity; that much is true.

The criminal atrocity itself directly impacts the victim, and close relatives, friends, and coworkers, business associates etc; so there is harm to “others” in that aspect of criminal violence.

This is my specific answer to paragraph { xv.i & xv.ii: } Please respond accordingly.

The larger point referring to the necessity of criminal prosecution and subsequent restriction of liberty of whoever is convicted of a violent crime. Murderers, kidnappers, rapists and thieves must be apprehended, arrested, indicted, arraigned, tried, convicted and punished for their actions. If none of that were to be the reality we cannot have peace, harmony, high quality of life, and all the other necessities for civil order. Your life and your family’s life and my life and my family‘s life would be harmed if the husband will never be prosecuted for shooting his wife in the face., Men would be shooting their wives in the face at will etc. and etc.. chaos society is horrible to every single member and society.

You and I would be harmed because civil tranquility and order would cease to exist.

{When a woman terminates her pregnancy under safe medical supervision as cited in paragraph { xiv. nfbw } and everything she does is {legal} as it is under the Ohio Constitution recently passed; there is no breakdown in civil order in anyway shape or form after a husband shoots his wife in the face, because there are laws on the books to justify locking him up for crimes if convicted. nfbwRev}

That’s what I mean when I say no harm comes to you and the entirety of society when a woman terminates her own pregnancy according to proper medical advice and procedures. nfbw 241023 Vrftma01674

xix.i. Rawley mdclxxviii. reply to 1674: "terminates her own pregnancy' Does your use of that euphemism somehow shield you from the unassailable fact that she is taking a life? rwly 241023 Srftma01678

xix.ii. Rawley mdclxxviii. reply to 1674
Some of seek to protect all life, particularly of the most vulnerable. Some don't. You've made it crystal clear into which camp you stand. rwly 241023 Srftma01678


xx. NotfooledbyW clxxv reply to 1:
MAGA is populist authoritarianism fanatically driven by white Christian nationalist culture war.religiosity..

Saint Rawley demonstrates the mental mush of the aforementioned “culture war“ fanaticism in paragraphs xix.i. and xix.ii

I shall explain to any MAGA who can set aside their culture warrior emotions for 20 minutes or so? nfbw 241026 Vwldua00175

Nice word wall.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Nice word wall.

The holy Bible in the US Constitution are word walls..

So let’s try this:

xiv. NotfooledbyW mcdli reply to 1649: When a woman terminates her own pregnancy within a few weeks of learning she is pregnant by using the abortion pill in the privacy of her home, how are you harmed? nfbw 241022 Vrftma01651

Can you please answer the question asked of Saint Rawley in paragraph xiv. ?????

 

[TruthNotBS]

"MAGA" technically means "make America great again." Liberals have never really understood what "MAGA" really represents to people, why it appeals to so many, and as a result they've never been able to counteract its effect. Democrats and liberals have spent years trying to define "MAGA" on their own terms. And what they don't ever seem to realize is that they're playing right into the MAGA strategy, creating more MAGA folks and reinforcing the MAGA appeal those who already have bought in.

So let's see if I can help Democrats have a breakthrough.

MAGA is a vague idea. It's amorphous. No, it doesn't mean whatever someone wants it to mean. It means whatever someone needs it to mean. MAGA is one simple thing: the affirmation of nostalgia.

Everyone is nostalgic at times. Everyone has happy memories of a different time. Everyone looks back fondly at something. Even if you've had the best, most amazing life possible, there will still be room for nostalgia. But the thing is, not all nostalgia is about what you did. Sometimes nostalgia is what you thought. It can be something you saw. It can even be something you thought you saw, and then longed for, from a very long time ago.

Democrats have been keen to say that "MAGA" people are nostalgic for white supremacy, Jim Crow, and things like that. In other words, Democrats keep trying to define MAGA on Democrats own terms. The Democrats have largely adopted an identity politics world view, so they can only perceive MAGA as an expression of identity politics. This is why when a black person buys into MAGA, that person is accused of being an Uncle Tom. But every time Democrats do this, they can't seem to figure out that all they're doing with this rhetoric is inflaming other people's nostalgia for a time before the identity politics took hold.

MAGA is nostalgia. But not for anything specific. MAGA enables people to be nostalgic about whatever you want. Maybe you have a nostalgic memory of being a kid in the mid 80s, about 5 or 6 years old, twisting the channel knob on the TV after Sesame Street just ended, and Lifestyles of the Rich and the Famous comes on. There's Donald, doing rich people stuff. You're playing with your Barbies and fantasizing about champagne wishes and caviar dreams, whatever that means as Mommy walks in with a PBJ sandwich with the crust cut off (a daily ritual). As you reminisce about those times, you happen to glance over at your own 5 year old daughter, playing with her tablet on a Saturday afternoon. And as you hand her a freshly unwrapped Uncrustable (a mere weekend ritual), it occurs to you that things are just different now. Your own childhood was somehow much more wholesome. It was a simpler time. It was more direct. It was real. You wonder how you're going to raise your own daughter to really feel something out of this life. Whatever else may have been wrong with the world, you got here, and you're a good person. And as the Democrats keep telling you, the world is a chaotic, awful place, full of terrible people.

And that is when it starts to set in. It's all a very personal experience.

Democrats need to realize that the more they tell others what MAGA means, the more they sound like idiots. Because you can't tell people what to feel when they remember their own younger life fondly. You can't demand what facts have to be inserted to other person's memories. You can't tell other people that their life was wrong all those years ago.

When people hear "make America great again" the greatness they envision is their own, personal life. And that is why anything Democrats try to associate MAGA with can be so easily ignored by adherents. That's why they can ignore so many of the things they witness that they don't like. Because MAGA is relative. Adherents understand MAGA as being relative to themselves, in their own terms, not yours.

You can't neutralize MAGA, like baking soda neutralizing acid. You have to supersede it. If Democrats can't do that, then they'll be losing to MAGA for decades yet to come.

It's a combination of what you just mentioned, along with personal bigotry and other elements, all wrapped up into one's MAGA-Hat. All there was packed, full of fear, bitterness, cynicism, with plenty of ignorance. Many of the older MAGA-Hats, remember a time when one breadwinner in the family, working a blue-collar job, paid all of the bills. Between the late 1940s and early 1980s, about 1/3rd of America's labor force was unionized. Our economy was based on manufacturing, real tangible goods. That all changed when the capitalist ruling elites finally exacted their revenge, after decades of New Deal, demand-side economics, through their champion, Ronald Reagan.

Demand-side economics was replaced with supply-side, trickle-down" economics. Our robust, solid, manufacturing-based economy was turned into a casino, based on speculative trading and finance. Wall Street took over and neo-liberalism became the SOP of our economy.

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Our working class was gutted, de-unionized, and dispossessed of its leverage and power. Thousands of factories closed down and moved abroad. Taxes for the wealthy were cut from 77% at the beginning of Reagan's presidency to 28%, the national debt went through the roof, and today 40 years later, blue-collar workers need to work 10, 12 hours daily, sometimes more, to barely make ends meet. Every adult in the family, maybe even grandma, has a job. Jobs are mostly within retail and the service industry (low paying without many benefits, if any).

About 60% of the American workforce lives paycheck to paycheck and those who don't are maybe a month or two away from being homeless. They have a couple of thousand dollars saved, and that will only last them a few months, at best.

Now due to advanced automation and artificial intelligence, experts predict that within the next few years, millions of Americans will be unemployed. Jobs are going to be taken by smart-robots and advanced AI. The problem with this is that the current capitalist ruling class, will continue owning the means of production, hence turning people into worthless consumer-serfs living off of a UBI. MAGA ignores all of the above, claiming that the smart-robots and artificial intelligence isn't going to negatively effect the job market, despite what the experts are saying.

Goldman Sachs Predicts 300 Million Jobs Will Be Lost Or Degraded By Artificial Intelligence

Goldman Sachs maintains that if generative AI lives up to its hype, the workforce in the United States and Europe will be upended. The bank estimates 300 million jobs could be lost or diminished due to this fast-growing technology.

www.forbes.com

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MAGA isn't addressing this and neither are the Dems. Only socialists have a real solution. Capitalism is forced into techno-feudalism or socialism, make your choice. I and many others, prefer democratic socialism, to feudalism. We don't want tech-lords, owning everything, to the detriment of 94% of the population (i.e. The working-class, which in the near future will become the "former working-class").

The means of production, i.e. mines, factories, all of the high-tech automation/robotics, artificial intelligence, quantum supercomputers..etc, has to be publicly owned by the American people, becoming our commonwealth. That's the only way to avoid techno-feudalism, where the former working-class are reduced to unemployed, worthless consumer serfs. We must own it all together, or no one owns it.

The American people, regardless of whether they're right-wing, conservative Republicans or liberals, will eventually wake up and smell the coffee, when it comes to this issue. They will live through the transition from capitalism to feudalism, and they're not going to like it. They're going to see socialists, living together, in independent, resource-rich communities with their own modern infrastructure, enjoying a higher standard of living, and owning the means of production together. That hopefully will wake up the non-socialists to the need for democratic socialism. It will liberate you from your tech-feudal lords and the need for a government welfare check (i.e. UBI).

 

[Rawley]

The holy Bible in the US Constitution are word walls..

So let’s try this:

xiv. NotfooledbyW mcdli reply to 1649: When a woman terminates her own pregnancy within a few weeks of learning she is pregnant by using the abortion pill in the privacy of her home, how are you harmed? nfbw 241022 Vrftma01651

Can you please answer the question asked of Saint Rawley in paragraph xiv. ?????

You poopyhead, I win

 

[petro]

Nice word wall.

Yeah, that was a mess.