COVID-19: Facts vs. Panic

[Correll]

Do you have a point?

Imagine that. Three different posters responded to the question, zero of them answered it.

That is because zero of them knew the answer.

 

[sparky]

This is our 911 ppl gawd dam wake uup it's to take our RIGHTS ANDN FREEDOMS!!

If this crisis doesn't convince you there's a media bias, NOTHING will !

This is the biggest mass hysteria media scare since the War of the Worlds.

There is far more to be feared in government response than in the bug itself.

thankfully some of you get this.....

~S~

 

[eagle1462010]

I understand President Trump doing what he is doing now, but his instincts are 99% correct and he called it a hoax from the start. And it is a hoax. Devastating economic damage.

My wife will be happy to know she does not need to wear all that PPE while trying to treat patients since this is all just a hoax.

Criticism of the administration's actions is a HOAX..........There fixed it for you.

While the Impeachment BS was in the Senate.......the 1st case came into the country....January 21st......10 days later .......a Travel Ban was initiated by Trump......same time Impeachment continues..........Biden called Trump XENOPHOBIC......IMAGINE THAT......

HOAX...........yeah........the Impeachment was a HOAX......RUSSIA COLLUSION WAS A HOAX.......AND Dems REACTION TO TRUMP ON THE VIRUS IS A HOAX.

 

[berg80]

The point is..........it's moronic to use the spread of the virus in a totalitarian state like China as a metric. Two, given the enormity of the economic impact being made around the world in order to minimize the spread does the % of people in China who got infected matter? Absolutely fucking not.

Why must we see Trumpleton's continue to drone on about this being a hoax when we are so far past that? If we adopted their, and Trump's, "what, me worry, nothing to see here" approach we'd end up with 10% of the world's population getting it, 20% of those requiring hospitalization, and somewhere around 1.5% dying. Please, Trumpette's, take your heads out of your asses. You're depriving your brains of oxygen.

 

[berg80]

Criticism of the administration's actions is a HOAX

More bullshit from a Trump Denial Syndrome sufferer.

 

[eagle1462010]

Criticism of the administration's actions is a HOAX

More bullshit from a Trump Denial Syndrome sufferer.

LOL

The Troll speaks just like always.......where were the Dems on this January 31st of this year........

Oh I know..........The Senate isn't giving us a fair Trial.

WE NEED WITNESSES......

TRUMP IS A XENOPHOBE..........


No one listens to you anymore.........Another problem is NO ONE BELIEVES THE MEDIA ANYMORE EITHER..

Which isn't good when we need them to try and minimize the spread now........Unless you are MORON LIB that doesn't care the economy crashes if it hurts Trump.

 

[sparky]

No one listens to you anymore.........Another problem is NO ONE BELIEVES THE MEDIA ANYMORE EITHER..

But plenty of fools believe >>>

~S~

 

[SmokeALib]

The point is..........it's moronic to use the spread of the virus in a totalitarian state like China as a metric. Two, given the enormity of the economic impact being made around the world in order to minimize the spread does the % of people in China who got infected matter? Absolutely fucking not.

Why must we see Trumpleton's continue to drone on about this being a hoax when we are so far past that? If we adopted their, and Trump's, "what, me worry, nothing to see here" approach we'd end up with 10% of the world's population getting it, 20% of those requiring hospitalization, and somewhere around 1.5% dying. Please, Trumpette's, take your heads out of your asses. You're depriving your brains of oxygen.

Just couldn't make it through a post without the word "Trump", could ya? What a fool you are.

 

[JWBooth]

“We should lock down society, cause mass panic, impose curfews, limit free association and print trillions for banks, don’t worry we’re the experts.”
-Your “free” country

 

[eagle1462010]

No one listens to you anymore.........Another problem is NO ONE BELIEVES THE MEDIA ANYMORE EITHER..

But plenty of fools believe >>>

~S~

His style offends you...........I don't care...............We knew he is not your typical President from the get go..........a Tweeter President.......who fights back and trolls TDS fools................

He has been under Siege by a BUNCH OF LUNATICS FOR 3 YEARS..........and it hasn't changed.....his actions to this date have bought us time........medical experts have said so............and still the Left can't even say.......HEY MAN ........GOOD JOB ON THAT ONE.....

It is DOOM AND GLOOM from the left........helping feed a Panic that has FUCKED US ECONOMICALLY.......

Nice job you bunch of TDS MORONS......

 

[sparky]

No one listens to you anymore.........Another problem is NO ONE BELIEVES THE MEDIA ANYMORE EITHER..

But plenty of fools believe >>>

~S~

His style offends you...........I don't care...............We knew he is not your typical President from the get go..........a Tweeter President.......who fights back and trolls TDS fools................

He has been under Siege by a BUNCH OF LUNATICS FOR 3 YEARS..........and it hasn't changed.....his actions to this date have bought us time........medical experts have said so............and still the Left can't even say.......HEY MAN ........GOOD JOB ON THAT ONE.....

It is DOOM AND GLOOM from the left........helping feed a Panic that has FUCKED US ECONOMICALLY.......

Nice job you bunch of TDS MORONS......

~S~

 

[eagle1462010]

No one listens to you anymore.........Another problem is NO ONE BELIEVES THE MEDIA ANYMORE EITHER..

But plenty of fools believe >>>

~S~

His style offends you...........I don't care...............We knew he is not your typical President from the get go..........a Tweeter President.......who fights back and trolls TDS fools................

He has been under Siege by a BUNCH OF LUNATICS FOR 3 YEARS..........and it hasn't changed.....his actions to this date have bought us time........medical experts have said so............and still the Left can't even say.......HEY MAN ........GOOD JOB ON THAT ONE.....

It is DOOM AND GLOOM from the left........helping feed a Panic that has FUCKED US ECONOMICALLY.......

Nice job you bunch of TDS MORONS......

~S~

Correct.........that is where the MSM and the liberals need to be............good job...

For 3 years we have listened to their BS............No one believes them anymore...........no one believes or trusts the media anymore.

Is that good for America? Even now when they are putting out methods to limit the thread...........

Anyways......nice pick of TDS drone there.

 

[Snouter]

Sparky seems particularly interested in oral activity. Particularly the male mouth. Very strange!

 

[berg80]

Another problem is NO ONE BELIEVES THE MEDIA ANYMORE EITHER..

You must have missed the poll released yesterday showing more people correctly trust the media than they do the Liar-in-Chief when it comes to info about the virus. When are you going to accept that Trump lies all the time.......about everything.........all the time? Here's an example.

Trump wrongly blamed the Obama administration for coronavirus testing shortages and falsely said it “didn’t do testing” during the swine flu epidemic of 2009.
WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“I don’t take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time.”

False. The Food and Drug Administration issued a “draft guidance” in 2014 in which it sought to extend its authority to regulate laboratory-developed tests. But it’s wrong to blame that effort for the scattered and insufficient delivery of coronavirus tests as the guidance was not particularly relevant to emergency situations and was never finalized or generally enforced.

A law enacted in 2004 created the process and requirements for the use of unapproved products in public health emergencies. Under the law and guidance set by the Trump administration itself, the Food and Drug Administration requires developers of laboratory-developed tests to submit information and to comply with certain procedures.

 

[Norman]

Guess what percentage of China's population has caught the corona virus, even though the virus was undetected for weeks and then was somewhat ignored for several more weeks? Guess? 10%? 5%? 2%? Try 0.0064%. That's a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of 1%. As of yesterday, per the World Health Organization's daily situation report, there were 81,077 corona cases in China, out of 1.35 billion people. Even rounding up, that means that only 0.0064% of China's population has caught the virus, and no one denies that new cases and new deaths in China have dropped dramatically since mid-February, clearly indicating that the virus has begun to run its course in the country.

In the WHO situation report dated today, 3/17/20, we discover that several nations with hundreds of corona cases have had zero deaths. Zero. They include Finland, Israel, and Portugal. We also learn that a number of nations with between 950 and 1,200 corona cases have had only 3 or 4 deaths, such as Norway, Austria, Sweden, Denmark.

In addition, the corona virus does not spread as easily as some people have claimed. In other words, even if you spend considerable time around someone who has the corona virus, this does not mean you will automatically catch it. For example, the World Health Organization (WHO) found that in China only 5-10% of the people who had lived or worked closely with an infected person caught the virus:

"The WHO team found that in China, 5-10% of people living or working closely with an infected person had the disease." (https://www.usatoday.com/…/coronavirus-lessons-…/4961671002/)​

Could the 5-10% transmission rate from close prolonged contact partly explain why the total number of corona cases in China, with its 1.3 billion population, still has not exceeded 90K, and why the numbers of new cases and deaths in China have dropped dramatically over the last three weeks?

The WHO daily situation report on the virus is an excellent source of information and a good way to track the viruses growth or decline in various nations. Here's the link to it:

Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) situation reports

The numbers are not correct.

Way more people have had the virus, they just stay home and don't report it.

 

[eagle1462010]

Another problem is NO ONE BELIEVES THE MEDIA ANYMORE EITHER..

You must have missed the poll released yesterday showing more people correctly trust the media than they do the Liar-in-Chief when it comes to info about the virus. When are you going to accept that Trump lies all the time.......about everything.........all the time? Here's an example.

Trump wrongly blamed the Obama administration for coronavirus testing shortages and falsely said it “didn’t do testing” during the swine flu epidemic of 2009.
WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“I don’t take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time.”

False. The Food and Drug Administration issued a “draft guidance” in 2014 in which it sought to extend its authority to regulate laboratory-developed tests. But it’s wrong to blame that effort for the scattered and insufficient delivery of coronavirus tests as the guidance was not particularly relevant to emergency situations and was never finalized or generally enforced.

A law enacted in 2004 created the process and requirements for the use of unapproved products in public health emergencies. Under the law and guidance set by the Trump administration itself, the Food and Drug Administration requires developers of laboratory-developed tests to submit information and to comply with certain procedures.

No one listens to you either

 

[iamwhatiseem]

China was able to contain the coronavirus because they quarantined 30 million people and began massive testing.

The US has not been testing at all, so we have no idea how far and wide the virus is. It has been spreading completely unabated.

Trump did not take this pandemic seriously until he was told he could no longer hold his campaign rallies.

The US is testing everyday. What you failed to mention is the "tests" that China was performing, especially in the first several months were virtually worthless. They gave both false positives, and false negatives. That is very dangerous and counter productive.
It is MUCH better to develop a GOOD test than to just shotgun out there a bunch of them just to say you are testing.

 

[berg80]

Another problem is NO ONE BELIEVES THE MEDIA ANYMORE EITHER..

You must have missed the poll released yesterday showing more people correctly trust the media than they do the Liar-in-Chief when it comes to info about the virus. When are you going to accept that Trump lies all the time.......about everything.........all the time? Here's an example.

Trump wrongly blamed the Obama administration for coronavirus testing shortages and falsely said it “didn’t do testing” during the swine flu epidemic of 2009.
WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

“I don’t take responsibility at all because we were given a set of circumstances and we were given rules, regulations, and specifications from a different time.”

False. The Food and Drug Administration issued a “draft guidance” in 2014 in which it sought to extend its authority to regulate laboratory-developed tests. But it’s wrong to blame that effort for the scattered and insufficient delivery of coronavirus tests as the guidance was not particularly relevant to emergency situations and was never finalized or generally enforced.

A law enacted in 2004 created the process and requirements for the use of unapproved products in public health emergencies. Under the law and guidance set by the Trump administration itself, the Food and Drug Administration requires developers of laboratory-developed tests to submit information and to comply with certain procedures.

WHAT TRUMP SAID

“If you go back to the swine flu, it was nothing like this. They didn’t do testing like this, and actually they lost approximately 14,000 people, and they didn’t do the testing. They started thinking about testing when it was far too late.”

False. This is blatantly wrong. Diagnostic tests for the swine flu were approved and shipped out less than two weeks after the H1N1 virus was identified and a day before the first death in the United States.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention identified the first case of the virus on April 14, 2009. The Obama administration declared swine flu a public health emergency on April 26. The Food and Drug Administration approved a rapid test for the virus two days later. At the time, the C.D.C. had reported 64 cases and zero deaths. The C.D.C. began shipping test kits to public health laboratories on May 1 (at 141 cases and one death) and a second test was approved in July. From May to September 2009, the agency shipped more than 1,000 kits, each one able to test 1,000 specimens.

Different tests developed by companies also came into widespread use, though researchers found flaws and limitations in them. A vaccine became available in early October but, amid reports of shortages, President Obama declared the outbreak a national emergency later that month. The estimated death toll in the United States from the H1N1 epidemic was 12,469 from April 2009 to April 2010.

 

[berg80]

The US is testing everyday.

America’s shamefully slow coronavirus testing threatens all of us
The US lags just about every developed country on testing for Covid-19 disease.
America’s shamefully slow coronavirus testing threatens all of us

Accurate testing is critical to stopping an outbreak: When one person gets a confirmed diagnosis, they can be put in isolation where they won’t spread the disease further. Then their contacts can be identified and put into quarantine so they don’t spread the virus if they’ve become infected, too. That’s particularly important for a virus like this one, which seems able to spread before people show symptoms, or when their symptoms are mild.

Ever since the first case of Covid-19 was detected in the US on January 20, the government’s blunders in creating and distributing diagnostic testing have greatly handicapped our response to the growing pandemic. Eaker’s story is not unique: Reports suggest providers everywhere are struggling to help their patients, while receiving frustrating guidance from authorities.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the federal government’s top infectious disease scientist, called the testing situation a “failing” at a congressional hearing on Thursday.

“The idea of anybody getting it easily the way people in other countries are doing it — we’re not set up for that,” he said. “Do I think we should be? Yes. But we’re not. “

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The US is testing everyday.

America’s shamefully slow coronavirus testing threatens all of us
The US lags just about every developed country on testing for Covid-19 disease.
America’s shamefully slow coronavirus testing threatens all of us

Accurate testing is critical to stopping an outbreak: When one person gets a confirmed diagnosis, they can be put in isolation where they won’t spread the disease further. Then their contacts can be identified and put into quarantine so they don’t spread the virus if they’ve become infected, too. That’s particularly important for a virus like this one, which seems able to spread before people show symptoms, or when their symptoms are mild.

Ever since the first case of Covid-19 was detected in the US on January 20, the government’s blunders in creating and distributing diagnostic testing have greatly handicapped our response to the growing pandemic. Eaker’s story is not unique: Reports suggest providers everywhere are struggling to help their patients, while receiving frustrating guidance from authorities.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the federal government’s top infectious disease scientist, called the testing situation a “failing” at a congressional hearing on Thursday.

“The idea of anybody getting it easily the way people in other countries are doing it — we’re not set up for that,” he said. “Do I think we should be? Yes. But we’re not. “

They are testing everyday, the problem is getting results from the tests is taking too long.
The article you post is a FANTASTIC example of misinformation and irresponsible reporting.
The number of people who have the virus/symptomatic is EXTREMELY LOW. EXTREMELY LOW.
The idiotic media is acting like every American should be tested. That would be stupid, create a massive waste of medical staff time.