Convenient store stand-your-ground shooter charged

[TheGreenHornet]

Arguing about the merits of the verdict is pointless – this is now part of Florida SYG case law; and Florida residents who carry concealed firearms should take note.

Having learned from the Zimmerman debacle, the State can now successfully convict those who use lethal force to defend themselves with the lesser charge of ‘manslaughter.’

Indeed, given the verdict, Florida residents who don’t want to be subject to a charge of manslaughter are in essence compelled to wait until the attacker has mTade physical contact before a firearm can be used in self-defense.

Yes it will have a big impact on self defense especially when your attacker is black and even police officers will have to take extra precautions from being charged with murder or manslaughter.

Hopefully when they appeal this case saner minds will rule.

Yet, in this case physical contact was made thus the jury by refusing to recognize the significance of that and how it justifiably placed the victim in fear of his life is essentially raising the bar regarding self defense. aka...making it more difficult to claim self defense.

Florida Law on Self-Defense | Use of Deadly and Non Deadly Force

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

For the record, and despite all the "racist Nazi bigot" labels our resident leftists have thrown at me over my past year on this forum, I believe the jury made the right call.

Drejka was attacked by McGlockton, that is undeniable. Because of the attack, Drejka pulled his firearm - an acceptable "use of force" to prevent further attack. 9 times out of 10, that's all you need to do - brandish. But he fucked up. McGlockton was clearly retreating and Drejka shot him anyway. That doesn't make it murder, because he almost certainly didn't go to the gas station with the intent to kill someone - but it definitely makes it manslaughter. He won't get 30 years, but whatever he does get he deserves.

“But he fucked up. McGlockton was clearly retreating and Drejka shot him anyway.”

But before this verdict, that wasn’t the standard – the standard was what did Drejka perceive, was his attacker still considered to be a threat, was it reasonable for Drejka to believe his attacker was no longer a threat even though he was still facing Drejka?

And what constitutes ‘clearly retreating’ – is the attacker ‘backing up’ in preparation to attack again, does ‘clearly retreating’ mean to turn your back on your victim and then retreat?

Again, the above questions are rendered moot the consequence of this verdict; likewise meaningless are now the doctrines of ‘stand your ground’ and ‘no duty to retreat’ – a Florida resident who does either will find himself charged with manslaughter.

 

[harmonica]

Zimmerman 2.0

No comparison. Zimmerman broke off his stalking. Martin caught up with him and attacked, at which point the responsibility became his.

This guy was pushed to the ground (provocation could be argued), and that was it. The attack stopped. He drew and killed the guy without cause.

Zim broke off?? he followed him in his vehicle then got out and followed him on foot !!
TM was standing his ground--literally and lawfully from the aggressor Zim

 

[Aletheia4u]

Justice may get served in the case of man being shot defending his girlfriend that parked in handicap spot.

White man charged with fatally shooting black man in Florida | My Connection from Cox

Florida man in deadly 'stand your ground' shooting found guilty of manslaughter




Well the guy was retreating. Once he has pulled out his gun. Her husband quickly was backing away. The Stand your ground law is meant for if you didn't have any choice, but only to shoot at someone that is attacking you. But the guy stopped and backed away.
But guns do stop the predators in their tracks. But now what is going to happen to the others that has stopped a predator in their tracks?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The bottom line is simply this.

The defendant was perfectly within his legal rights to tell the woman she was illegally parked and she should move her car. to a legal parking space and there was no shortage of them.

A reasonable person would have apologized and moved the car. However this black woman was not a reasonable person. She threw a fit, as in the vernacular 'she went off' on the defendant' telling him just to wait till her man got back and he would fuck him up.

She was outraged no doubt because a white man dared to tell her that she was wrong to park in a handicap spot. She also knew that since the defendant was a frail older man that he would be no match for her and her and her younger and muscular man and thus she told him they would fuck him up.

This was reported by a witness.

Again what was wrong with this jury??? Political correctness is the best explanation. So many due to the media b.s. always want to think black folk are always innocent and most especially if they are unarmed not recognizing or knowing that black men---usually young black men have beaten countless people to death.

The state spun all that around to claim that the defendant was threatening the black woman. Ridiculous, but they got away with it because the jury failed in their duty no doubt being devotees of political correctness as so many are. As in--the black person is always the victim.

If the black woman had acted reasonably there would have been no argument and nothing would have happened. Instead she instigated a chain of events that led to the death of her boyfriend.

She will not admit it for sure --yet I am sure she feels a lot of guilt. By her arrogance, anger, stupidity and resentment of a white man pointing out her violation of handicap parking she is the one most responsible for the death of her b/f other than her b/f himself who high on drugs was impaired no doubt to such an extent that he did not even bother to try and find out what was going on before he assaulted the defendant.

When the black guy exited the store all he saw was the defendant pointing his finger and arguing with his g/f. Was that reason enough to assault someone? Of course not.

A terrible miscarriage of justice and it will have far reaching ramifications.

Just another example of the current cultural war, which has been going on for a long while now. It has not reached the point of a civil war and may not but there is a terrible division in America. We are more divided now than at any time since The War Between The States and it is getting steadily worse and it is going to get much,much worse.

Yeah but you are leaving out some very important details... like how the shooter was well-known to be a trouble-maker at that store and getting into confrontations with others, and LIED to law enforcement about what was clearly seen on tv. Parking in a handicap spot is no doubtingly wrong and deserves a ticket, however isn't stand your ground worthy. The boyfriend had no idea the woman had made that threat as he was in the store, and all he saw when he came out was a man standing at the driver's window of the car in a loud argument with his woman. His reaction to that, especially once again given the man's reputation, was not wrong.

He was not a confrontational person. There was only one previous incident at the store with a truck driver....who was a convicted felon and liar. Yet the jury no doubt chose to believe the truck driver regarding the altercation with Drejka.

He did not lie to law enforcement...he simply did not see all that was revealed in the slow motion video. Nor should he....anyone that has ever been through a traumatic event will not remember every detail. Plus he was interrogated that night for 6 hrs. that same night when he no doubt was still in truama.

It is police dept. policy to wait a few days to question a police officer who has been involved in a shooting to let him clear his thoughts and recover from the truama...but here they were ganging up on Drjka in a intterogation room for 6rs. immediately after the shooting. Outrageous.

Stand your ground was not applicable in this case.

The defense considered it but rejected it and went with a simple self defense argument. He had been knocked to the ground and the perp was hovering over him. His only recourse was to draw his weapon and fire. To say otherwise is not being realistic. He was not in a position to flee.

At any time Drejka had the option to refuse to answer questions without a lawyer. That is the right of everyone. Drejka talking was his option. His choice. Through the entire encounter he demonstrated a tendency to make bad choices. According to the witnesses he had a long history of making bad choices.

His story on that night was asinine. It makes more sense that he finally had what he wanted. The chance to shoot someone. And he figured he could get away with it. Another bad decision. Thankfully the community of Concealed Carry will no longer have him among their ranks. Nor will gun owners. And I am both.

Ridiculous childish analysis. Next....preferably someone with a little common sense.

These p.c. idiots are disgusting.

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

For the record, and despite all the "racist Nazi bigot" labels our resident leftists have thrown at me over my past year on this forum, I believe the jury made the right call.

Drejka was attacked by McGlockton, that is undeniable. Because of the attack, Drejka pulled his firearm - an acceptable "use of force" to prevent further attack. 9 times out of 10, that's all you need to do - brandish. But he fucked up. McGlockton was clearly retreating and Drejka shot him anyway. That doesn't make it murder, because he almost certainly didn't go to the gas station with the intent to kill someone - but it definitely makes it manslaughter. He won't get 30 years, but whatever he does get he deserves.

“But he fucked up. McGlockton was clearly retreating and Drejka shot him anyway.”

But before this verdict, that wasn’t the standard – the standard was what did Drejka perceive, was his attacker still considered to be a threat, was it reasonable for Drejka to believe his attacker was no longer a threat even though he was still facing Drejka?

And what constitutes ‘clearly retreating’ – is the attacker ‘backing up’ in preparation to attack again, does ‘clearly retreating’ mean to turn your back on your victim and then retreat?

Again, the above questions are rendered moot the consequence of this verdict; likewise meaningless are now the doctrines of ‘stand your ground’ and ‘no duty to retreat’ – a Florida resident who does either will find himself charged with manslaughter.

Excellent analysis.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Okay guys, put yourself in the place of the dude that was killed...................

You walk out of the store and find some random man yelling at your old lady. What would you do in that case? I'm pretty sure a shove or something like that would be done.

And, when the guy was pushed to the ground, he pulled out his gun and the man started to back away, then was shot, and went into the store and died.

No. The man with the gun should not have fired at the other guy when he was backing away. I think the manslaughter charge should stand.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Yeah but you are leaving out some very important details... like how the shooter was well-known to be a trouble-maker at that store and getting into confrontations with others, and LIED to law enforcement about what was clearly seen on tv. Parking in a handicap spot is no doubtingly wrong and deserves a ticket, however isn't stand your ground worthy. The boyfriend had no idea the woman had made that threat as he was in the store, and all he saw when he came out was a man standing at the driver's window of the car in a loud argument with his woman. His reaction to that, especially once again given the man's reputation, was not wrong.

He was not a confrontational person. There was only one previous incident at the store with a truck driver....who was a convicted felon and liar. Yet the jury no doubt chose to believe the truck driver regarding the altercation with Drejka.

He did not lie to law enforcement...he simply did not see all that was revealed in the slow motion video. Nor should he....anyone that has ever been through a traumatic event will not remember every detail. Plus he was interrogated that night for 6 hrs. that same night when he no doubt was still in truama.

It is police dept. policy to wait a few days to question a police officer who has been involved in a shooting to let him clear his thoughts and recover from the truama...but here they were ganging up on Drjka in a intterogation room for 6rs. immediately after the shooting. Outrageous.

Stand your ground was not applicable in this case.

The defense considered it but rejected it and went with a simple self defense argument. He had been knocked to the ground and the perp was hovering over him. His only recourse was to draw his weapon and fire. To say otherwise is not being realistic. He was not in a position to flee.

At any time Drejka had the option to refuse to answer questions without a lawyer. That is the right of everyone. Drejka talking was his option. His choice. Through the entire encounter he demonstrated a tendency to make bad choices. According to the witnesses he had a long history of making bad choices.

His story on that night was asinine. It makes more sense that he finally had what he wanted. The chance to shoot someone. And he figured he could get away with it. Another bad decision. Thankfully the community of Concealed Carry will no longer have him among their ranks. Nor will gun owners. And I am both.

Ridiculous childish analysis. Next....preferably someone with a little common sense.

These p.c. idiots are disgusting.

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

There is no doubt about how it all began ....the black bitch went off on Drejka whilst he was checking her vehicle for handicap parking placards. There was no altercation until the black dude came rusing out of the store and blindsided drejka with a extremely violent push to the ground.

Drejka was not at fault in any way shape or form. He had a perfect right to check the vehicle for handicap placards and also to inform the black bitch she was illegally parked. It is not illegal to shout at anyone....the black dude had no legal right to attack drejka.


When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

As I have said previously Drejka made a huge,huge mistake by talking to the police without his lawyer. He stupidly thought they were his friends probably because his father was a state trooper for 28 plus years.

Yes he should have kept his mouth shut as everyone should in these cases and wait for their lawyer.

Police are very manipulative and they are experts at enticing someone to talk and talk and the more they talk the easier it is to spin what they say to use against them.

However he was not threatening anyone. pointing your finger at someone is not threatening them. The black dude had no idea what was going on...all he knew was some white guy was arguing with his wife. Certainly nothing illegal about that.

 

[harmonica]

Yeah but you are leaving out some very important details... like how the shooter was well-known to be a trouble-maker at that store and getting into confrontations with others, and LIED to law enforcement about what was clearly seen on tv. Parking in a handicap spot is no doubtingly wrong and deserves a ticket, however isn't stand your ground worthy. The boyfriend had no idea the woman had made that threat as he was in the store, and all he saw when he came out was a man standing at the driver's window of the car in a loud argument with his woman. His reaction to that, especially once again given the man's reputation, was not wrong.

He was not a confrontational person. There was only one previous incident at the store with a truck driver....who was a convicted felon and liar. Yet the jury no doubt chose to believe the truck driver regarding the altercation with Drejka.

He did not lie to law enforcement...he simply did not see all that was revealed in the slow motion video. Nor should he....anyone that has ever been through a traumatic event will not remember every detail. Plus he was interrogated that night for 6 hrs. that same night when he no doubt was still in truama.

It is police dept. policy to wait a few days to question a police officer who has been involved in a shooting to let him clear his thoughts and recover from the truama...but here they were ganging up on Drjka in a intterogation room for 6rs. immediately after the shooting. Outrageous.

Stand your ground was not applicable in this case.

The defense considered it but rejected it and went with a simple self defense argument. He had been knocked to the ground and the perp was hovering over him. His only recourse was to draw his weapon and fire. To say otherwise is not being realistic. He was not in a position to flee.

At any time Drejka had the option to refuse to answer questions without a lawyer. That is the right of everyone. Drejka talking was his option. His choice. Through the entire encounter he demonstrated a tendency to make bad choices. According to the witnesses he had a long history of making bad choices.

His story on that night was asinine. It makes more sense that he finally had what he wanted. The chance to shoot someone. And he figured he could get away with it. Another bad decision. Thankfully the community of Concealed Carry will no longer have him among their ranks. Nor will gun owners. And I am both.

Ridiculous childish analysis. Next....preferably someone with a little common sense.

These p.c. idiots are disgusting.

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

Zim was the same = stupid/idiot

 

[TheGreenHornet]

He was not a confrontational person. There was only one previous incident at the store with a truck driver....who was a convicted felon and liar. Yet the jury no doubt chose to believe the truck driver regarding the altercation with Drejka.

He did not lie to law enforcement...he simply did not see all that was revealed in the slow motion video. Nor should he....anyone that has ever been through a traumatic event will not remember every detail. Plus he was interrogated that night for 6 hrs. that same night when he no doubt was still in truama.

It is police dept. policy to wait a few days to question a police officer who has been involved in a shooting to let him clear his thoughts and recover from the truama...but here they were ganging up on Drjka in a intterogation room for 6rs. immediately after the shooting. Outrageous.

Stand your ground was not applicable in this case.

The defense considered it but rejected it and went with a simple self defense argument. He had been knocked to the ground and the perp was hovering over him. His only recourse was to draw his weapon and fire. To say otherwise is not being realistic. He was not in a position to flee.

At any time Drejka had the option to refuse to answer questions without a lawyer. That is the right of everyone. Drejka talking was his option. His choice. Through the entire encounter he demonstrated a tendency to make bad choices. According to the witnesses he had a long history of making bad choices.

His story on that night was asinine. It makes more sense that he finally had what he wanted. The chance to shoot someone. And he figured he could get away with it. Another bad decision. Thankfully the community of Concealed Carry will no longer have him among their ranks. Nor will gun owners. And I am both.

Ridiculous childish analysis. Next....preferably someone with a little common sense.

These p.c. idiots are disgusting.

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

Zim was the same = stupid/idiot

Lots of stupid people about you are a good example...however unfortunately especially in your case it is not illegal to be stupid so you do not have to worry about being incarcerated because you are stupid.............next............puhleeze someone with some intelligence or common sense.

 

[miketx]

Arguing about the merits of the verdict is pointless – this is now part of Florida SYG case law; and Florida residents who carry concealed firearms should take note.

Having learned from the Zimmerman debacle, the State can now successfully convict those who use lethal force to defend themselves with the lesser charge of ‘manslaughter.’

Indeed, given the verdict, Florida residents who don’t want to be subject to a charge of manslaughter are in essence compelled to wait until the attacker has made physical contact before a firearm can be used in self-defense.

Are you really this stupid? Physical contact was made when the guy shoved him violently to the ground! Plus if some guy rushes you with a hammer you don't have to wait to shoot him, liar.

 

[harmonica]

At any time Drejka had the option to refuse to answer questions without a lawyer. That is the right of everyone. Drejka talking was his option. His choice. Through the entire encounter he demonstrated a tendency to make bad choices. According to the witnesses he had a long history of making bad choices.

His story on that night was asinine. It makes more sense that he finally had what he wanted. The chance to shoot someone. And he figured he could get away with it. Another bad decision. Thankfully the community of Concealed Carry will no longer have him among their ranks. Nor will gun owners. And I am both.

Ridiculous childish analysis. Next....preferably someone with a little common sense.

These p.c. idiots are disgusting.

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

Zim was the same = stupid/idiot

Lots of stupid people about you are a good example...however unfortunately especially in your case it is not illegal to be stupid so you do not have to worry about being incarcerated because you are stupid.............next............puhleeze someone with some intelligence or common sense.

what's stupid is your post--grammatically incorrect....incoherent....babbling
hahahahhahahhaha

 

[harmonica]

At any time Drejka had the option to refuse to answer questions without a lawyer. That is the right of everyone. Drejka talking was his option. His choice. Through the entire encounter he demonstrated a tendency to make bad choices. According to the witnesses he had a long history of making bad choices.

His story on that night was asinine. It makes more sense that he finally had what he wanted. The chance to shoot someone. And he figured he could get away with it. Another bad decision. Thankfully the community of Concealed Carry will no longer have him among their ranks. Nor will gun owners. And I am both.

Ridiculous childish analysis. Next....preferably someone with a little common sense.

These p.c. idiots are disgusting.

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

Zim was the same = stupid/idiot

Lots of stupid people about you are a good example...however unfortunately especially in your case it is not illegal to be stupid so you do not have to worry about being incarcerated because you are stupid.............next............puhleeze someone with some intelligence or common sense.

Zim could not add 1 + 1
he thought TM was staring at him because there was ''something wrong with'' TM
he couldn't figure out TM was staring because Zim was following him = IDIOT/stupid

 

[miketx]

Ridiculous childish analysis. Next....preferably someone with a little common sense.

These p.c. idiots are disgusting.

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

Zim was the same = stupid/idiot

Lots of stupid people about you are a good example...however unfortunately especially in your case it is not illegal to be stupid so you do not have to worry about being incarcerated because you are stupid.............next............puhleeze someone with some intelligence or common sense.

what's stupid is your post--grammatically incorrect....incoherent....babbling
hahahahhahahhaha

Regressive liberal ROE



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2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect


3. Ignore any facts presented.


4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.


5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age


6. Employ misdirection,


6a. smear people


6b. attack religion


6c. attack your rationality.


7. Lie


8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card


9. Play gay/lesbian card


10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card


11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?


12. Deny constantly


13. Reword and repeat


14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about


15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.


16. Russia


17. Fox News/Alex Jones/Brietbart/infowars/Stormfront/Gateway/hannity


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[harmonica]

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

Zim was the same = stupid/idiot

Lots of stupid people about you are a good example...however unfortunately especially in your case it is not illegal to be stupid so you do not have to worry about being incarcerated because you are stupid.............next............puhleeze someone with some intelligence or common sense.

what's stupid is your post--grammatically incorrect....incoherent....babbling
hahahahhahahhaha

Regressive liberal ROE



1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.


2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect


3. Ignore any facts presented.


4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.


5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age


6. Employ misdirection,


6a. smear people


6b. attack religion


6c. attack your rationality.


7. Lie


8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card


9. Play gay/lesbian card


10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card


11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?


12. Deny constantly


13. Reword and repeat


14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about


15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.


16. Russia


17. Fox News/Alex Jones/Brietbart/infowars/Stormfront/Gateway/hannity


18. You can’t read.


19. Trump Trump Trump TrumpTrump Trump

Zim is still a dumbass after all of that

 

[miketx]

Ridiculous childish analysis. Next....preferably someone with a little common sense.

These p.c. idiots are disgusting.

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

Zim was the same = stupid/idiot

Lots of stupid people about you are a good example...however unfortunately especially in your case it is not illegal to be stupid so you do not have to worry about being incarcerated because you are stupid.............next............puhleeze someone with some intelligence or common sense.

Zim could not add 1 + 1
he thought TM was staring at him because there was ''something wrong with'' TM
he couldn't figure out TM was staring because Zim was following him = IDIOT/stupid

Now he knows what people are thinking in other states in the past.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Okay guys, put yourself in the place of the dude that was killed...................

You walk out of the store and find some random man yelling at your old lady. What would you do in that case? I'm pretty sure a shove or something like that would be done.

And, when the guy was pushed to the ground, he pulled out his gun and the man started to back away, then was shot, and went into the store and died.

No. The man with the gun should not have fired at the other guy when he was backing away. I think the manslaughter charge should stand.

You display a ignorance of the law on self defense in Florida. It has been posted...study up and get back with us.

BTW no reasonable person is going to walk out of a store and attack someone for merely arguing with his wife. This black dude was on drugs....the toxicology reports on his corpse revealed his system was overloaded with drugs. Thus the most likely reason he engaged in an irrational attack.

If he had been a rational person he would have engaged drejka in coversation to figure out what was going on and what the problem was. No reason to attack....especially in the presence of his children...what kind of example does that set. But also remember this black dude was driving his children around whilst high on drugs...he had no concern for his children or his wife...he was merely trying to show off by knocking some old white geezer down to impress his wife that he was a real man. Ridiculous.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Zimmerman 2.0

No comparison. Zimmerman broke off his stalking. Martin caught up with him and attacked, at which point the responsibility became his.

This guy was pushed to the ground (provocation could be argued), and that was it. The attack stopped. He drew and killed the guy without cause.

Zim broke off?? he followed him in his vehicle then got out and followed him on foot !!
TM was standing his ground--literally and lawfully from the aggressor Zim

He followed him on foot, and then broke off. Martin doubled back and attacked Zimmerman. It's a matter of record.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Okay guys, put yourself in the place of the dude that was killed...................

You walk out of the store and find some random man yelling at your old lady. What would you do in that case? I'm pretty sure a shove or something like that would be done.

And, when the guy was pushed to the ground, he pulled out his gun and the man started to back away, then was shot, and went into the store and died.

No. The man with the gun should not have fired at the other guy when he was backing away. I think the manslaughter charge should stand.

You display a ignorance of the law on self defense in Florida. It has been posted...study up and get back with us.

BTW no reasonable person is going to walk out of a store and attack someone for merely arguing with his wife. This black dude was on drugs....the toxicology reports on his corpse revealed his system was overloaded with drugs. Thus the most likely reason he engaged in an irrational attack.

If he had been a rational person he would have engaged drejka in coversation to figure out what was going on and what the problem was. No reason to attack....especially in the presence of his children...what kind of example does that set. But also remember this black dude was driving his children around whilst high on drugs...he had no concern for his children or his wife...he was merely trying to show off by knocking some old white geezer down to impress his wife that he was a real man. Ridiculous.

not even to mention he had a history of assaulting people before this incident. His stupidity and penchant for violence is what caused his death.

 

[harmonica]

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

Zim was the same = stupid/idiot

Lots of stupid people about you are a good example...however unfortunately especially in your case it is not illegal to be stupid so you do not have to worry about being incarcerated because you are stupid.............next............puhleeze someone with some intelligence or common sense.

what's stupid is your post--grammatically incorrect....incoherent....babbling
hahahahhahahhaha

Regressive liberal ROE



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I'm far from liberal

Are you saying that people do not have the right under the fifth Amendment to remain mute? This action is recommended by the USCCA if you are ever involved in a shooting. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.

The jury agreed with the prosecution. It took just six hours for them to return a Guilty Verdict. That is not PC. It is called reasonable. It is reasonable to question why the altercation started. It was Drejka’s fault the incident began. Imagine someone is shouting at your wife. What do you do? Do you move to protect your family? Again not PC. It is the survival instinct in action. You defend what is yours. You defend your family, your life, and your property.

When someone stands up to your aggression they are defending. Not you.

Drejka is guilty of being ignorant and stupid.

He should have exercised his right to remain silent.

He should have answered no questions absent an attorney.

He failed to do both an suffered the consequences.

Zim was the same = stupid/idiot

Lots of stupid people about you are a good example...however unfortunately especially in your case it is not illegal to be stupid so you do not have to worry about being incarcerated because you are stupid.............next............puhleeze someone with some intelligence or common sense.

Zim could not add 1 + 1
he thought TM was staring at him because there was ''something wrong with'' TM
he couldn't figure out TM was staring because Zim was following him = IDIOT/stupid

Now he knows what people are thinking in other states in the past.

then the dumbass walks into a situation he can't handle ---while TM was standing his ground, --he walks into a situation he can't handle!!!
..he blindly walks around not knowing where TM is !!! = dumbass