Constitution says preemptive pardons are invalid

[progressive hunter]

Did you know Trump pardoned numerous people who hadn’t been convicted?

correction,,

I thought he asked for charges to be dropped??

 

[progressive hunter]

I’m saying they hadn’t been convicted. Whether they were guilty or innocent is another matter. You got mad at me for bringing up innocence a minute ago, not sure why you’re doing it here.

 

[Marener]

correction,,

I thought he asked for charges to be dropped??

He pardoned people who hadn’t been convicted. Actual pardons.

Did you know Trump did that?

 

[progressive hunter]

He pardoned people who hadn’t been convicted. Actual pardons.

Did you know Trump did that?

got a link to the text of that??

cause I read different,,

 

[Marener]

got a link to the text of that??

cause I read different,,

An example.

Trump pardons Steve Bannon as one of his final acts in office | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump pardoned his former chief strategist Steve Bannon in a last-minute decision made only hours before he is scheduled to depart the White House for a final time.

www.cnn.com

Steve Bannon had not been convicted.

 

[progressive hunter]

An example.

Trump pardons Steve Bannon as one of his final acts in office | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump pardoned his former chief strategist Steve Bannon in a last-minute decision made only hours before he is scheduled to depart the White House for a final time.

www.cnn.com

Steve Bannon had not been convicted.

so he was charged,,

are you saying bannon was being wrongly charged and support trump in that action??

 

[Marener]

so he was charged,,

are you saying bannon was being wrongly charged and support trump in that action??

Nope. I didn’t say that at all.

But do you still think pardons can only be given to people who are convicted?

 

[progressive hunter]

Nope. I didn’t say that at all.

But do you still think pardons can only be given to people who are convicted?

what I think is biden knows his family is guilty of crimes and gave them pardons to avoid them going to jail,,

but hopefully those pardons will either be thrown out or used to force them to testify about what crimes they received pardons for,,

they can no longer plead the 5th and remain silent,,

 

[Marener]

what I think is biden knows his family is guilty of crimes and gave them pardons to avoid them going to jail,,

but hopefully those pardons will either be thrown out or used to force them to testify about what crimes they received pardons for,,

they can no longer plead the 5th and remain silent,,

You avoided answering the question.

Let me know if you want to take another stab.

 

[progressive hunter]

You avoided answering the question.

Let me know if you want to take another stab.

I was very clear what I think,,

 

[Marener]

I was very clear what I think,,

Okay. You’re wrong and won’t admit it.

 

[whitehall]

The Founding Fathers didn't address preemptive pardons because they never envisioned that the government could become that corrupt.

 

[progressive hunter]

Okay. You’re wrong and won’t admit it.

why else would joe pardon his family if they arent guilty of something??

 

[progressive hunter]

The Founding Fathers didn't address preemptive pardons because they never envisioned that the government could become that corrupt.

they hadnt met progressives yet,,

 

[Marener]

why else would joe pardon his family if they arent guilty of something??

To keep them from being improperly prosecuted by a corrupt DoJ.

 

[progressive hunter]

To keep them from being improperly prosecuted by a corrupt DoJ.

for what crime??

 

[Marener]

for what crime??

Whatever the corrupt prosecutors in Trump’s DoJ come up with.

 

[progressive hunter]

Whatever the corrupt prosecutors in Trump’s DoJ come up with.

ahhh,,

I dont believe you because the evidence says different,,

 

[excalibur]

The ghost of Nixon disagrees.

Nixon was an unindicted co-conspirator when he was still POTUS. So after he resigned they would have indicted him, and it was known what the allegations would be.

JURY NAMED NIXON A CO‐CONSPIRATOR BUT DIDN'T INDICT (Published 1974)

www.nytimes.com

 

[Marener]

ahhh,,

I dont believe you because the evidence says different,,

You believe whatever you want to believe.

Evidence has nothing to do with it.