gipper
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I doubt you made it past 8th grade.
Pardons for some, bombs for others.
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I think his nickname is Bubba. Wait..
HaShev
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They explained why he was Pardoned, the part they can't explain would be classified, and if you don't know why then that makes you a bigger idiot than your post.
Don't post your guesses, because there's a reason for not discussing this.
facts
uring his presidency (2014-2022), Hernández was seen by U.S. officials as a partner in regional efforts related to migration and the war on drugs. He supported Trump and extradited many of the drug traffickers.
Political Rivals: Hernández's legal team and allies claimed that convicted drug traffickers, many of whom faced life sentences, lied on the witness stand to receive lighter sentences and to exact revenge for being extradited to the U.S. during his presidency. He was the victim of a politically motivated "witch hunt" by the Biden-Harris administration and revenge by the drug traffickers he had extradited to the U.S.
Notice most of the leftist politicians mainly the same people are always champion on the side of the cartels and their gangs? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize they sold us out and would do anything to maintain that money making machine enterprise.
The siding with those who killed more people than Bin Laden makes Dems >>>many times worse than being a member of Al Queda and the Taliban.
A judge COULD LEGALLY AND should declare the whole party a terrorist org.
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berg80
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Republicans begin to tighten the screws on Hegseth’s Pentagon
In a classified briefing for lawmakers scrutinizing the Trump administration’s killing of suspected drug smugglers around Latin America, top Republicans in the room appeared frustrated.The Pentagon, facing questions about its legal basis for attacking civilian vessels, sent no lawyers to the meeting — a move multiple lawmakers in the room considered inexplicable. The Defense Department officials who did attend, those people said, were unable to explain the mission’s strategy and scope — even as President Donald Trump openly mused about expanding the campaign to include land targets inside Venezuela.
Rep. Mike D. Rogers (Alabama), the House Armed Services Committee’s GOP chairman, condemned the secrecy, saying Congress had gotten more information from the Pentagon during the Biden administration, according to two people in the room. They spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private encounter.
Hegseth's second colossal mistake may have saved Ka$h Patel his job since it would look really bad for the regime to fire both the S of Def and the FBI director so closely to each other.
HaShev
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you are deflecting, how oblivious are you, just look at the timing of the pardon Sherlock.
Mac1958
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If you haven't figured it out yet, Trump is personally driven to erase the Biden Administration from history and damn be the consequences. It is spite for calling him a loser and his supporters garbage.
LordBrownTrout
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But it was all good when biden was pardoning killers. More hollow words from OP.
berg80
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Are you sure that's what's happening? Now he's undercutting his own DoJ.
Trump pardons live entertainment CEO Tim Leiweke months after DOJ indictment
Trump pardons live entertainment CEO Tim Leiweke months after DOJ indictment
President Donald Trump pardoned Oak View Group CEO Tim Leiweke over federal conspiracy charges for allegedly rigging an arena bidding process in Texas.
www.foxbusiness.com
LordBrownTrout
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They do matter. You should get yours straight. Biden commuted killers and let them free. Im not playing your little word semantics.
Native American activist Leonard Peltier leaves prison after Biden commuted his life sentence
Peltier planned to return to North Dakota, where a celebration was planned Wednesday with family and friends.
www.pbs.org
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The commutation was not a pardon for crimes committed, something Peltier’s advocates have hoped for since he has always maintained his innocence. The decision to release the 80-year-old to home confinement was celebrated by supporters.They do matter. You should get yours straight. Biden commuted killers and let them free. Im not playing your little word semantics.
Native American activist Leonard Peltier leaves prison after Biden commuted his life sentence
Peltier planned to return to North Dakota, where a celebration was planned Wednesday with family and friends.
Biden commuted Peltier’s sentence Jan. 20, noting he had spent most of his life in prison and was now in poor health.
Get your facts straight.
LordBrownTrout
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No, you're playing word games. Biden let a murderer go free. That is fact.
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Am I dreaming? That's real? It's the Matrix? lol. 
My reaction—finding it bizarre and almost darkly funny. The clash between the stated principles and the actual pardon is stark enough that it naturally makes me feel surreal.
The claim that Hernández was the victim of a politically driven prosecution and a grave injustice is a political argument, not something for which public evidence has been produced that reverses or disproves the trial record. bbc+1
What the record actually shows
Hernández was convicted in a U.S. federal court by a jury after a multi‑year investigation involving the Justice Department, the DEA, and multiple cooperating witnesses, and then sentenced by a judge to 45 years on cocaine trafficking and related firearms charges. Prosecutors presented extensive evidence that he took millions in bribes from traffickers, used state security forces to protect shipments, and helped move hundreds of tons of cocaine toward the U.S., and the conviction survived through trial and into the appeals process until the pardon cut it short. deseret+2
Where the “political” claim comes from
Trump and Hernández’s lawyers argue the case was a “Biden setup,” saying the trial relied heavily on testimony from violent narco‑traffickers and that the evidence was weak or tainted. However, reporting notes that much of the investigation actually began before Biden’s term, during earlier administrations, and U.S. prosecutors and drug‑enforcement officials have stood by the case as solid and evidence‑based. youtubenytimes+3
How others are judging the pardon
Members of Congress from both parties, human‑rights groups, and anti‑corruption advocates have condemned the pardon, saying the evidence against Hernández was “overwhelming” and that freeing him undermines U.S. rule‑of‑law and anti‑drug efforts rather than correcting an injustice. No independent court or investigative body has since found that the prosecution itself was improper or politically fabricated; the idea that it was “politically driven” is essentially the narrative of Trump, Hernández, and their allies, not a demonstrated fact accepted by the broader legal or diplomatic community. theguardian+3
Sources:
My reaction—finding it bizarre and almost darkly funny. The clash between the stated principles and the actual pardon is stark enough that it naturally makes me feel surreal.
The claim that Hernández was the victim of a politically driven prosecution and a grave injustice is a political argument, not something for which public evidence has been produced that reverses or disproves the trial record. bbc+1What the record actually shows
Hernández was convicted in a U.S. federal court by a jury after a multi‑year investigation involving the Justice Department, the DEA, and multiple cooperating witnesses, and then sentenced by a judge to 45 years on cocaine trafficking and related firearms charges. Prosecutors presented extensive evidence that he took millions in bribes from traffickers, used state security forces to protect shipments, and helped move hundreds of tons of cocaine toward the U.S., and the conviction survived through trial and into the appeals process until the pardon cut it short. deseret+2
Where the “political” claim comes from
Trump and Hernández’s lawyers argue the case was a “Biden setup,” saying the trial relied heavily on testimony from violent narco‑traffickers and that the evidence was weak or tainted. However, reporting notes that much of the investigation actually began before Biden’s term, during earlier administrations, and U.S. prosecutors and drug‑enforcement officials have stood by the case as solid and evidence‑based. youtubenytimes+3
How others are judging the pardon
Members of Congress from both parties, human‑rights groups, and anti‑corruption advocates have condemned the pardon, saying the evidence against Hernández was “overwhelming” and that freeing him undermines U.S. rule‑of‑law and anti‑drug efforts rather than correcting an injustice. No independent court or investigative body has since found that the prosecution itself was improper or politically fabricated; the idea that it was “politically driven” is essentially the narrative of Trump, Hernández, and their allies, not a demonstrated fact accepted by the broader legal or diplomatic community. theguardian+3
Sources:
- Trump pardons cocaine kingpin who ruled Honduras
- https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...ased-us-prison-after-trump-pardon-2025-12-02/
- https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/04/nyregion/honduras-congressman-drug-sentence.html
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/12/02/hernandez-trump-pardon-prison-honduras/
- Critics warn Trump's pardon for Hernández could undermine U.S. drug strategy
- https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/28/world/americas/trump-pardon-honduras-hernandez.html
- https://www.npr.org/2025/11/28/nx-s1-5624478/trump-plans-to-pardon-juan-orlando-hernandez
- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...n-orlando-hernandez-honduras-former-president
- https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qewln7912o
- https://www.foreign.senate.gov/pres...ident-and-drug-kingpin-juan-orlando-hernandez
- https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/1...er-honduran-president-juan-orlando-hernandez/
- https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/nyregion/honduras-hernandez-drug-trafficking.html
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Clinton got paid for his pardons.
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Hegseth’s 2016 Warning to Military Nukes Trump’s Attack on Democrats
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is planning to court-martial Democratic Senator and military veteran Mark Kelly for saying—nearly verbatim—the same thing he himself said about soldiers not having to follow “unlawful orders” almost a decade ago.
On Tuesday, Kelly posted a clip of the defense secretary giving a speech in 2016, when he was still an anchor for Fox News.
newrepublic.com
It's sorta odd how many virulent, former critics of Dotard have been coopted in to the flock.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is planning to court-martial Democratic Senator and military veteran Mark Kelly for saying—nearly verbatim—the same thing he himself said about soldiers not having to follow “unlawful orders” almost a decade ago.
On Tuesday, Kelly posted a clip of the defense secretary giving a speech in 2016, when he was still an anchor for Fox News.
Hegseth’s 2016 Warning to Military Nukes Trump’s Attack on Democrats
A resurfaced video of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth proves Republicans’ latest attack on Democrats is completely unjustified.
newrepublic.com
It's sorta odd how many virulent, former critics of Dotard have been coopted in to the flock.
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Look at all the Rosie Odonnel level TDS in this thread. 
What did you crazy fuckers do with your lives prior to 2015?
What did you crazy fuckers do with your lives prior to 2015?
OhPleaseJustQuit
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.Look at all the Rosie Odonnel level TDS in this thread.
What did you crazy fuckers do with your lives prior to 2015?
If they didn't have their TDS/victimhood, they'd have nothing.
Make Asylums Great Again
Psychotherapist says 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' is real pathology, plaguing 75 percent of his patients
Psychotherapist Jonathan Alpert described Trump Derangement Syndrome as a profound pathology causing sleepless nights, compulsive news checking and emotional distress in his patients.
www.foxnews.com
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ColonelAngus
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If they didn't have their TDS/victimhood, they'd have nothing.
Make Asylums Great Again
Psychotherapist says 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' is real pathology, plaguing 75 percent of his patients
Psychotherapist Jonathan Alpert described Trump Derangement Syndrome as a profound pathology causing sleepless nights, compulsive news checking and emotional distress in his patients.
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Rosie’s therapist told her tl not post about Trump for 2 days and she could not do it.
Seems she is a ******* psycho, and is using Trump as her prime focus, when in all reality, she has been a crazy ***** well before Trump became President.
Rather than dealing with her clinical depression, she is trying to blame Trump.
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