Pardons for some, bombs for others.

[Delldude]

And beyond that he claims he was bombing these boats because of the extraordinary danger that fentanyl posed

The boats however were not carrying fentanyl

Not entirely true.

Speaking later from the Oval Office, Trump said that the US had recorded proof and evidence that the boats belonged to narco-terrorist groups.

"All you have to do is look at the cargo - it was spattered all over the ocean - big bags of cocaine and fentanyl all over the place," he said. "We recorded them. It was very careful, because we know you people would be after us. We're very careful."

 

[Lesh]

Not entirely true.

Speaking later from the Oval Office, Trump said that the US had recorded proof and evidence that the boats belonged to narco-terrorist groups.

"All you have to do is look at the cargo - it was spattered all over the ocean - big bags of cocaine and fentanyl all over the place," he said. "We recorded them. It was very careful, because we know you people would be after us. We're very careful." E

So show us. Trump saying it don’t mean shit

Is that why the boat had to be completely destroy? To get rid of the evidence?

 

[Delldude]

So show us.

Just did.......

Did they have 'approval'?

 

[Lesh]

Just did.......

Did they have 'approval'?

You quoted Trump

That ain’t proof jackass

 

[Delldude]

You quoted Trump

That ain’t proof jackass

You made unsupported claims of what you thought He said..... SFB.

I provided proof.......

 

[Lesh]

You made unsupported claims of what you thought He said..... SFB.

I provided proof.......

Proof. “Trump said” ain’t proof

 

[Delldude]

Proof. “Trump said” ain’t proof

Oh .... BBC.....

I see you clowns want Hegseth's head....ok.

Any thoughts about the targeting group flying the drones and its a group of people.......all followed the dreaded 'illegal' orders'......also possibly committing 'war crimes'?

 

[Lesh]

Oh .... BBC.....

I see you clowns want Hegseth's head....ok.

Any thoughts about the targeting group flying the drones and its a group of people.......all followed the dreaded 'illegal' orders'......also possibly committing 'war crimes'?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/19/us/politics/trump-venezuela-fentanyl.html

Fentanyl was the excuse for these boat bombings

 

[Delldude]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/19/us/politics/trump-venezuela-fentanyl.html

Fentanyl was the excuse for these boat bombings

I wouldn't go that far. Hurting the drug trade is the goal.

However, Trump had good reason to say that:

U.S. Intelligence confirmed this vessel was loaded up with mostly Fentanyl, and other illegal narcotics.

 

[Mac1958]

One man's lunacy is another's business opportunity. Let's face it. He spoke anonymously because he wanted to keep his job.

We now know that if President Gotti pardons someone, it's either a reward or an investment.

Roy Cohn would be so proud.

 

[berg80]

We now know that if President Gotti pardons someone, it's either a reward or an investment.

Roy Cohn would be so proud.

He once boasted that he would “stuff the drugs up the gringos’ noses.” He accepted a $1 million bribe from El Chapo to allow cocaine shipments to pass through Honduras. A man was killed in prison to protect him.

At the federal trial of Juan Orlando Hernández in New York, testimony and evidence showed how the former president maintained Honduras as a bastion of the global drug trade. He orchestrated a vast trafficking conspiracy that prosecutors said raked in millions for cartels while keeping Honduras one of Central America’s poorest, most violent and most corrupt countries.

Last year, Mr. Hernández was convicted on drug trafficking and weapons charges and sentenced to 45 years in prison. It was one of the most sweeping drug-trafficking cases to come before a U.S. court since the trial of the Panamanian strongman Gen. Manuel Noriega three decades before.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/nyregion/honduras-hernandez-drug-trafficking.html

This is the most baffling pardon of all. Unless trump is being paid.

The lack of outrage over it is more evidence of how we have slipped in to complacency due to the overwhelming frequency with acts that would normally bring down a presidency.

 

[Mac1958]

This is the most baffling pardon of all. Unless trump is being paid.

The lack of outrage over it is more evidence of how we have slipped in to complacency due to the overwhelming frequency with acts that would normally bring down a presidency.

Yep. There is a specific, Trump-centric reason for it. And yep, it's just another drop in a hurricane.

 

[berg80]

Yep. There is a specific, Trump-centric reason for it. And yep, it's just another drop in a hurricane.

My wife and I have a running, kind of gallows humor reaction each time we see a story like this. We look at each other and say, "What will it be tomorrow?" Cuz we know today's story, whether it be the pardon or Hegseth's war crime, typically has a shelf life of about 48 hours due to the firehose of corruption, incompetence, and abject chaos.

 

[Delldude]

This is the most baffling pardon of all. Unless trump is being paid.

Suddenly Honduras takes all deportees.....

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Are you saying OMB is Jesus ?

.

They seem to like that idea. It gives them a sense of importance when they ponder the possibility that it takes the King of the World to take them down.

.

 

[gipper]

Legal genocide.....

No such thing, except in the minds of fools.

 

[berg80]

When President Trump pardoned the former leader of Honduras this week, he erased the crowning achievement of years of work by one of his own former criminal defense lawyers and top Justice Department officials, Emil Bove III.

Mr. Bove, a firm believer in the prerogatives of executive power, became known for defending Mr. Trump against several prosecutions, and his profile rose further when, at the Justice Department, he oversaw the firing of dozens of prosecutors and F.B.I. agents Mr. Trump perceived as enemies. In May, the president nominated him as a federal appeals court judge and the Senate confirmed him in July.

But before that, Mr. Bove was a hard-charging prosecutor in Manhattan bent on convicting members of a Honduran drug-trafficking conspiracy.

From 2015 to when he left the job in 2021, Mr. Bove helped lead the investigation that identified Honduras as a key conduit for cocaine shipments into the United States. The inquiry revealed the violence that had cleared a pathway for the drugs through Honduras, as the country’s officials mowed down anyone who sought to thwart them. And it ultimately led to the conviction in 2024 of President Juan Orlando Hernández, who prosecutors said had been at the center of the conspiracy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/nyregion/bove-trump-honduras-pardon.html

I bet Emil is pissed. Does he dare to say anything against Dear Leader's appalling lack of judgement? Nope.

 

[Delldude]

No such thing, except in the minds of fools.

Funny you bring up facts......something you have no clue about.

 

[gipper]

Funny you bring up facts......something you have no clue about.

Facts? I don’t think you know any.

 

[Delldude]

Facts? I don’t think you know any.

And without a doubt you went to the same high school.