Constitution says preemptive pardons are invalid

[excalibur]

I have doubts that tape would be admissible because SCOTUS said testimony or private records of the president and his advisors can’t be admitted at trial.

You are misrepresenting what the Court said in 'Trump'. Bye.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

The power of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject to legislative control.

Ex parte Garland, 71 U.S. 333 (1866)

Ex parte Garland

supreme.justia.com

Every offense know to the law??? So now you claim biden can give pardons for state convictions???

 

[Marener]

You are misrepresenting what the Court said in 'Trump'. Bye.

I typed most of that word for word from the decision.

SCOTUS fucked up. Badly.

 

[Contumacious]

Again - biden says the people he pardoned did nothing wrong. There was no offense according to biden.

If they accepted the Pardon they admitted the wrong. That's the deal.

 

[Marener]

Again - biden says the people he pardoned did nothing wrong. There was no offense according to biden.

Pardons have been given to people because they were felt to have been innocent. Therefore, they committed no offense.

 

[CowboyTed]

Biden pardoned them because he saw the Head of the FBI and the new AG coming in...

They are not in anyway objective and have shown unquestioned loyalty and fealty to Trump. This is not how the US justice system is meant to work...

Trump is in the middle of setting up a arm of justice more like the KGB... Biden was right to protect people he knows did little to nothing wrong from persecution from people who are out to perform Trump's revenge...

Yes we have MAGA loyalists here who are upset that they can't use their twisted logic on these people...

They will now shout how Trump was investigated. Trump was investigated because there was evidence... There is plenty of evidence of Trump committing crimes, we have it on tape... This is about vengeance against for people doing their jobs...

Well done to Biden...

 

[ColonelAngus]

Trump is going to troll you snowflakes so hard.

You should probably get helmets.

 

[CowboyTed]

Trump is going to troll you snowflakes so hard.

You should probably get helmets.

Thanks for that...

Trump only wants your total loyalty and if you don't give it then himself and MAGA will attack(troll) you...

Thanks for making it clear that he is not there for all Americans, just the ones he wants to look after.

Don't worry, when Trump issues pardons you don't give a fuck... You are bought and paid for at this stage..

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Pardons have been used to forgive someone wrongfully convicted.

Where were the convictions against the Biden Crime Family?

 

[Marener]

Where were the convictions against the Biden Crime Family?

The corrupt prosecutors Trump is appointing don’t get to convict them.

Sorry!

 

[ColonelAngus]

Thanks for that...

Trump only wants your total loyalty and if you don't give it then himself and MAGA will attack(troll) you...

Thanks for making it clear that he is not there for all Americans, just the ones he wants to look after.

Don't worry, when Trump issues pardons you don't give a fuck... You are bought and paid for at this stage..

Trump is HITLER! I know, I know.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No. The preemptive pardon is legal for any federal offenses other than impeachment. It does not specify that the person must be indicted for those offenses before the pardon can be issued.

Thus Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon before he had been indicted of any crime was valid. And probably prevented an impeachment.

Nixon had three charges leveled against him!!!

 

[Hollie]

Biden pardoned them because he saw the Head of the FBI and the new AG coming in...

They are not in anyway objective and have shown unquestioned loyalty and fealty to Trump. This is not how the US justice system is meant to work...

Trump is in the middle of setting up a arm of justice more like the KGB... Biden was right to protect people he knows did little to nothing wrong from persecution from people who are out to perform Trump's revenge...

Yes we have MAGA loyalists here who are upset that they can't use their twisted logic on these people...

They will now shout how Trump was investigated. Trump was investigated because there was evidence... There is plenty of evidence of Trump committing crimes, we have it on tape... This is about vengeance against for people doing their jobs...

Well done to Biden...

Biden pardoned his crime family members, pardons extending retroactively 10 years into the past, because that time period coincides with Hunter Biden making boatloads of money from Ukraine while dodging taxes and as money was flowing to the Biden Crime Family members.

The Big guy knew he had to protect himself and his crime family from investigation.

 

[Hollie]

Biden pardoned them because he saw the Head of the FBI and the new AG coming in...

They are not in anyway objective and have shown unquestioned loyalty and fealty to Trump. This is not how the US justice system is meant to work...

Trump is in the middle of setting up a arm of justice more like the KGB... Biden was right to protect people he knows did little to nothing wrong from persecution from people who are out to perform Trump's revenge...

Yes we have MAGA loyalists here who are upset that they can't use their twisted logic on these people...

They will now shout how Trump was investigated. Trump was investigated because there was evidence... There is plenty of evidence of Trump committing crimes, we have it on tape... This is about vengeance against for people doing their jobs...

Well done to Biden...

Where is this evidence on tape “we’ have of Trump committing crimes?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And biden says the people he pardoned did nothing wrong.!!!!!!!!!!!!

But the pardon does not say that it states the pardon is for all nonviolent crimes committed

 

[ThisIsMe]

The constitution says that people can't be investigated for no reason also.

Didn't stop you guys lol

 

[ThisIsMe]

Since when are pardons only for people who have had convictions?

Since when would someone not convicted of anything need a pardon?

 

[Marener]

Since when would someone not convicted of anything need a pardon?

When they could be convicted of something.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Trump pardoned lots of people who hadn't been convicted. Lots of presidents have.

Isn't arpaio the only one trump preemptively pardoned?

 

[Marener]

Isn't arpaio the only one trump preemptively pardoned?

Bannon.