House oversight committee claims some of Biden’s autopen pardons are invalid

[JohnDB]

Do you routinely just ignore a dozen posts? Its not required by the Constitution. They were authorized by him and executed.

They were NOT.....that's the whole point.
Biden's staff has a clear manner of doublespeak about the situation and there are clear laws concerning the use of autopen that WERE NOT followed whatsoever.

This is blatant Clinton speak of "it depends on what your definition of the word "is" is."

They said one thing but meant something obviously different by it. Kinda scary testimony imho. And that it can happen again.....and Congress likely wont do anything about it. Because to Democrats, the truth doesn't matter....only winning does.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[BackAgain]

It doesn't matter...the president said it was true,

No. The FORMER President claimed it had been authorized by him.

said he approved them and that's, that...

Only if he wasn’t then and isn’t now demented.

what the president says, goes....

Former President.

when it comes to the Constitution and President's power.....

Nope. The powers claimed by lots of Presidents have been challenged. And it turns out that he doesn’t always get the final say. Go figure.

There is nothing prohibiting the President from pardoning anyone out there, with or without a signature, and we the people, can't do a darn thing about it...

Nice fiction. But if some underling used the autopen, and the demented old man playing the role of President wasn’t even aware of it, then there is a prohibition against it.

Shouldn't Comer be investigating something relevant, happening now?

Like?

Like Trump's son making billions off of Trump's presidency with foreign govts and leaders and domestic billionaires as we speak?

No. That’s not a well founded-question nor is it a big concern of anyone.

Comer should be investigating things which actually matter such as whether the WH procedure permitted someone other than the President to issue pardons using his name and his signature.

It was the President who had the authority. Not his handlers. THAT is manifestly worth investigation.

 

[JohnDB]

Here's a good synopsis by sound. Bite

 

[Cassandro]

Quite possibly cost him the election. I disagree about it being unconstitutional. I think the constitution gives presidents extremely broad power when it comes to pardons.

The Constitution gives presidents the power to pardon offenses, not people.

 

[Care4all]

Only if he wasn’t then and isn’t now demented

Too late to prove any kind of dementia....1. It can't be proven after he left office....it had to be done while sitting as president, and through the 25th....not a year after the fact, and without an on hands evaluation by medical doctors at the time.

This is simply a smear campaign.

Nice fiction. But if some underling used the autopen, and the demented old man playing the role of President wasn’t even aware of it, then there is a prohibition against it.

Agree, but your problem is Biden was aware of the pardons done by auto pen, and states such.

No. That’s not a well founded-question nor is it a big concern of anyone

excuse me? Comer spent 3 years investigating Hunter Biden for using his fathers name to make money....when his dad was VP.

Trump's sons have made crooked billions since he took office on wheeling and dealing off of President Trump's status and name....

 

[Zincwarrior]

Yep.

In fact, I’m very curious what makes you imagine that this wouldn’t qualify as a valid Constitutional case or controversy upon which the SCOTUS could grant cert.

A dispute over whether a presidential pardon (and specifically, one executed via autopen) is valid under Article II, Section 2 clearly arises under the Constitution. Thus, it falls within the Supreme Court’s constitutional jurisdiction.

See Article III, Sec. 2. which explicitly grants the Supreme Court jurisdiction over “all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, [and] the Laws of the United States.”

There is no case.
This is an absolute power of the President. I wish it wasn't because then the entire Trump Admin goes to jail in 2029.

 

[BackAgain]

Too late to prove any kind of dementia....1. It can't be proven after he left office....

So you conveniently claim. But I believe you’re wrong. The evidence of his dementia was already quite clear.

it had to be done while sitting as president, and through the 25th....not a year after the fact,

Why?

and without an on hands evaluation by medical doctors at the time.

Not needed.

This is simply a smear campaign.

No. It was clear that he had lost it, then. And it’s still clear that he had lost it.

Agree, but your problem is Biden was aware of the pardons done by auto pen, and states such.

He was told to say a lot of things and dutifully did so. I don’t believe he was aware of much of anything.

excuse me? Comer spent 3 years investigating Hunter Biden for using his fathers name to make money....when his dad was VP.

You’re excuse and … so what. We all know Hunter did exactly that.

Trump's sons have made crooked billions since he took office

They have? Prove it.

on wheeling and dealing off of President Trump's status and name....

Again. Prove it.

 

[BackAgain]

There is no case.
This is an absolute power of the President. I wish it wasn't because then the entire Trump Admin goes to jail in 2029.

It is a power OF the President — which is exactly why there is a case here.

 

[BackAgain]

A related matter. Biden allegedly signed An executive order concerning Liquified Natural Gas supposedly in late 2024, but he didn’t recall it just a couple of weeks or so later, in early 2025.

Biden insisted he didn’t sign executive order just weeks after doing so, Speaker Johnson reveals

House Speaker Mike Johnson revealed President Biden insisted to him he hadn’t issued an executive order freezing liquid natural gas export permits — despite doing so less than a month p…

nypost.com

The REASON that this is a related matter is obvious:

He EITHER did sign it and completely forgot it within just a few weeks OR he didn’t sign it at all but someone using the Autopen of the POTUS did it without his knowledge.

(I’d like to compare the “signature” on the LNG order with the signature on his alleged issuance of those numerous blanket pardons he supposedly authorized at the ass and of his term.)

And whether he was actually sharp while serving as President as his henchmen had claimed is now also doubtful for a newly revealed reasons: WATCH: Ex-Biden spin doctor makes stunning admission after touting his sharpness for years

 

[Synthaholic]

Biden autopens? Trump doesn't even know who he is pardoning. This is totally illegal according to Republicans.

Explain yourselves, wingnuts.

 

[Synthaholic]

This bullshit?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Biden autopens? Trump doesn't even know who he is pardoning. This is totally illegal according to Republicans.

Explain yourselves, wingnuts.

O'DONNELL: Why did you pardon Changpeng Zhao?

TRUMP: Are you ready? I don't know who he is

O'DONNELL: His crypto exchange Binance helped facilitate a $2b purchase of World Liberty Financial's stablecoin. And they you pardoned him.

TRUMP: Here's the thing -- I know nothing about it
.......

O'Donnell pointed out that Binance helped facilitate a $2 billion purchase of World Liberty Financial's stablecoin earlier this year. The deal helped boost the profile and value of World Liberty Financial, which was founded last year by Mr. Trump's sons, Eric and Donald Jr., and others.

O'Donnell asked the president how he addressed "the appearance of pay for play."


"Well, here's the thing, I know nothing about it because I'm too busy doing the other—" he said.

"But he got a pardon," O'Donnell said.

"I can only tell you that—" the president said.

"He got a pardon," O'Donnell pressed.


"No, I can only tell you this. My sons are into it. I'm glad they are, because it's probably a great industry, crypto. I think it's good. You know, they're running a business, they're not in government," Mr. Trump said.

Trump on Binance cryptocurrency tycoon he pardoned: "I don't know who he is"

President Trump told 60 Minutes he doesn't know the Binance crypto exchange founder he pardoned. Binance has done business with the Trump family's crypto firm World Liberty Financial.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[ThisIsMe]

House Oversight Committee deems some of Biden’s autopen orders ‘invalid,’ asks DOJ to investigate

The findings come after a monthslong probe into the Biden administration’s use of an autopen for executive decisions and pardons.

justthenews.com

“The House Oversight Committee on Tuesday published its final report on its investigation into the Biden’s administration’s use of an autopen, concluding that at least some of the president’s orders were invalid and calling on the Justice Department to investigate.”

This is not a big surprise. Blanket autopen pardons are a joke. The man was too senile to run for a 2 nd term…yet his autopen blanket pardons are considered VALID?

Signing Legal Documents with Dementia: Family Guide

Learn how dementia affects legal capacity, when a senior can still sign documents, and what families need to know about protecting rights and making decisions.

seniorsafetyadvice.com

• Capacity Is Key: Signing is valid only if the person understands what the document means at the time.
• Fluctuating Ability: Dementia affects cognition differently day to day, capacity must be assessed in the moment.
• Types of Documents: Contracts, wills, or powers of attorney require varying levels of legal understanding.
• Professional Evaluation: Doctors, attorneys, or notaries may need to confirm decision-making capacity.
• Legal Challenges: Documents signed without proper capacity can be contested or invalidated later.
• Plan Early: Setting up powers of attorney, trusts, and advance directives early reduces risk of disputes.

Those autopen blanket pardons are a joke and should all be invalidated.

So the J6 committe is no longer protected?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So the J6 committe is no longer protected?


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*in fantasyland

 

[ThisIsMe]

*in fantasyland

No..in real life! Im not sure why they needed a pardon anyway, I mean, they committed no crime, right?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No..in real life! Im not sure why they needed a pardon anyway, I mean, they committed no crime, right?

Nope. Fantasyland.

Sorry.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Nope. Fantasyland.

Sorry.

Thats ok, apology accepted...but im talking about real life here!

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

It is a power OF the President — which is exactly why there is a case here.

Come on. It’s a non-issue.!

 

[BackAgain]

Come on. It’s a non-issue.!

It’s also not my thread. You’re the one obsessing over a non-issue, Lib.