Mr. H.
Diamond Member
It will be very interesting to see what happens to crime rates in Illinois in the coming years, now that we've finally passed conceal carry legislation.
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Sixteen more school shootings since Sandy Hook, a year ago.
Blah, blah, blah.
Sixteen more school shootings since Sandy Hook, a year ago.
Blah, blah, blah.
Don't ya just love cons answers to killing kids?
Sixteen more school shootings since Sandy Hook, a year ago.
The murder rate has plummeted because the crack wars of the 90s have ended
Yeah, all is peaceful in the ghettos now you moron. Sounds like you've had you share of crack today.
Compared to the 90s, they are peaceful
More guns had nothing to do with it.....less drugs did
Sixteen more school shootings since Sandy Hook, a year ago.
Blah, blah, blah.
Don't ya just love cons answers to killing kids?
Sixteen more school shootings since Sandy Hook, a year ago.
Blah, blah, blah.
Don't ya just love cons answers to killing kids?
No more than how liberal dogs like you stand on the graves of children to push whatever agenda it is that you have. Remember when Clinton tried to ban internet porn? That was for the children too. That would have been a bad day for you.
Bad things happen asshole and God isn't here to stop it.
You should be thanking us because we're the only people left to stand in the way of your government making you a commie bitch.
It's only logical that crime will drop with increasing gun ownership. With increasingly more guns present in households and institutions, criminals will think twice before attempting to commit a gun related crime. They know full well, that chances are greater that they will be confronted with deadly force.A Congressional Research Service (CRS) report shows that while gun ownership climbed from 192 million firearms in 1994 to 310 million firearms in 2009, crime felland fell sharply.
According to the report, the "firearm-related murder and non-negligent homicide" rate was 6.6 per 100,000 Americans in 1993. Following the exponential growth in the number of guns, that rate fell to 3.6 per 100,000 in 2000.
This rate rose from 2004 to 2005 and got as high as 3.9 in 2006 and 2007, but it then resumed falling in 2008, the year the Supreme Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Heller that individual firearm possession is Constitutionally protectedparticularly for self-defense. This figure fell to 3.2 per 100,000 by 2011.
In other words, as the number of firearms almost doubled over a nearly 20-year period, the "firearm-related murder and non-negligent homicide" rate was more than halved.
We can also look to Arizona for further evidence. For a few years now, Arizona has had a concealed carry law where no CCW permit is required. I am sure you have a significant number if Arizona residents who take advantage of that law. No wild west scenarios have occurred in Arizona.Gun Grabbers INSISTED that when Florida passed open and concealed carry that there would be shoot outs in the street, at bars and restaurants. That it would be the wild west all over again. Never happened. Then they made the same claim when more states passed conceal carry. Still hasn't happened.
Still waiting for that wild west to occur in States with concealed carry.
Gun Grabbers INSISTED that when Florida passed open and concealed carry that there would be shoot outs in the street, at bars and restaurants. That it would be the wild west all over again. Never happened. Then they made the same claim when more states passed conceal carry. Still hasn't happened.
Still waiting for that wild west to occur in States with concealed carry.
Sixteen more school shootings since Sandy Hook, a year ago.
Blah, blah, blah.
Don't ya just love cons answers to killing kids?
No more than how liberal dogs like you stand on the graves of children to push whatever agenda it is that you have. Remember when Clinton tried to ban internet porn? That was for the children too. That would have been a bad day for you.
Bad things happen asshole and God isn't here to stop it.
You should be thanking us because we're the only people left to stand in the way of your government making you a commie bitch.
You've said some stupid things on here so far derp, but I think that takes the cake.
Not only did Jesus come for you, he wanted you to have health care.
That's the way they play. If they can't find facts to push their Gestapo style agenda, they just lie... from top on down...Gun Grabbers INSISTED that when Florida passed open and concealed carry that there would be shoot outs in the street, at bars and restaurants. That it would be the wild west all over again. Never happened. Then they made the same claim when more states passed conceal carry. Still hasn't happened.
Still waiting for that wild west to occur in States with concealed carry.
lol, yeah, that one kinda fell off the libtard radar, didn't it?
Yeah, all is peaceful in the ghettos now you moron. Sounds like you've had you share of crack today.
Compared to the 90s, they are peaceful
More guns had nothing to do with it.....less drugs did
I love it how you libtards will try to disprove one causal affect by suggesting that it was actually a different cause that gave us the impacts we see, when any thinking person knows almost every case of change occurs due to multiple affects, not singletons.
So for you to say it was a drop in the drug wars instead of an increase in gun ownership not only flies in the face of reason and easily available evidence to the contrary, but it is on its face a red herring argument, in other words pure bullshit.
Again, you demonstrate what an ideological liar and stooge you are, rightwinger.
We can also look to Arizona for further evidence. For a few years now, Arizona has had a concealed carry law where no CCW permit is required. I am sure you have a significant number if Arizona residents who take advantage of that law. No wild west scenarios have occurred in Arizona.Gun Grabbers INSISTED that when Florida passed open and concealed carry that there would be shoot outs in the street, at bars and restaurants. That it would be the wild west all over again. Never happened. Then they made the same claim when more states passed conceal carry. Still hasn't happened.
Still waiting for that wild west to occur in States with concealed carry.
Compared to the 90s, they are peaceful
More guns had nothing to do with it.....less drugs did
I love it how you libtards will try to disprove one causal affect by suggesting that it was actually a different cause that gave us the impacts we see, when any thinking person knows almost every case of change occurs due to multiple affects, not singletons.
So for you to say it was a drop in the drug wars instead of an increase in gun ownership not only flies in the face of reason and easily available evidence to the contrary, but it is on its face a red herring argument, in other words pure bullshit.
Again, you demonstrate what an ideological liar and stooge you are, rightwinger.
You have not proved cause and effect between more guns and less crime.
We have more guns
Crime has gone down
Therefore, more guns caused less crime
It doesn't work like that
It will be very interesting to see what happens to crime rates in Illinois in the coming years, now that we've finally passed conceal carry legislation.
It will be very interesting to see what happens to crime rates in Illinois in the coming years, now that we've finally passed conceal carry legislation.
True, but is Illinois a "may issue" state vs. a "shall issue" one? I think you guys are still a part of "Occupied America" like here in Maryland....