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He's different than Benedict that's for sure. What do you mean by red shoe guy?
Compassion For The Cruel????
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If only you could learn to be more articulate...
You wrote :
"Offer compassion to the cruel? Yeah. It's difficult. I don't like it either. "
This implies agreement with my OP.
Now....move on.
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That does not mean he should not be locked up. All white collar criminal should be locked up.
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Thanks for making it clear that you are here to lecture not to discuss.
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Thanks for making it clear that you are here to lecture not discuss.
I just proved you are unable to make a point.
Don't let me keep ya'....
""But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. (Matthew 5:38) Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Carefully consider what is right in the eyes of everybody. ""
PS---^^^^^ I absolutely do not believe that JESUS ever said the lines
above. The statement is a misinterpretation of the "eye for eye"
adage. I believe that Jesus was a well informed Hillel man (Talmudist)
and-----the putative reinterpretation actually makes no sense. Neither
Matthew nor Paul ever met Jesus (imho)
PS---^^^^^ I absolutely do not believe that JESUS ever said the lines
above. The statement is a misinterpretation of the "eye for eye"
adage. I believe that Jesus was a well informed Hillel man (Talmudist)
and-----the putative reinterpretation actually makes no sense. Neither
Matthew nor Paul ever met Jesus (imho)
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If guilty, he should be locked up. A life sentence is over the top though.
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6. “After 2,000 years of teaching that a moral use of capital punishment for murder is consistent with Catholic teaching, the pope announced that the catechism, the church fathers and St. Thomas Aquinas, among the other great Catholic theologians, were all wrong.
… remaking Catholicism in the image of leftism, just as mainstream Protestant leaders have been rendering much of mainstream Protestantism a branch of leftism, and non-Orthodox Jewish clergy and lay leaders have been rendering most non-Orthodox synagogues and lay institutions left-wing organizations.
… Pope Francis wrote, "today capital punishment is unacceptable, however serious the condemned's crime may have been."
Unacceptable? To whom? It is acceptable to about half of American Catholics and about half of the American people. But it is unacceptable to the elites of our time, the people who have the most contempt for Catholicism and every other Bible-based religion.” Pope Francis Rewrites Catholicism ... and the Bible
"This is a departure from what the document, approved under Pope John Paul II in 1992, says on the matter: “Assuming that the guilty party’s identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.”
Pope Francis: Death penalty is definitely and completely "inadmissible under any circumstances"
Clearly, one of the Popes is fallible.
… remaking Catholicism in the image of leftism, just as mainstream Protestant leaders have been rendering much of mainstream Protestantism a branch of leftism, and non-Orthodox Jewish clergy and lay leaders have been rendering most non-Orthodox synagogues and lay institutions left-wing organizations.
… Pope Francis wrote, "today capital punishment is unacceptable, however serious the condemned's crime may have been."
Unacceptable? To whom? It is acceptable to about half of American Catholics and about half of the American people. But it is unacceptable to the elites of our time, the people who have the most contempt for Catholicism and every other Bible-based religion.” Pope Francis Rewrites Catholicism ... and the Bible
"This is a departure from what the document, approved under Pope John Paul II in 1992, says on the matter: “Assuming that the guilty party’s identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.”
Pope Francis: Death penalty is definitely and completely "inadmissible under any circumstances"
Clearly, one of the Popes is fallible.
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I am a jew-----I do not ignore the NT-------I read it before I read the OT----
in my town, old ladies handed them out-----freely-----cute little pocket sized
bookies. tiny print--------I was young then------and could see it
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1. The New Testament grew from the Old.
2. Post #28 is from Prager, and refers to the New Testament.
ptbw forever
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Prager teaches the Torah, not the New Testament.
not all of it. Paul adapted it to roman tastes
really? I never noticed any "torah lesson" from him
ptbw forever
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You don't listen to his radio show then.
very very little------can you cite an example?
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7. Francis….not this one
…the other talking mule, has decided that innocent lives don’t matter. How Leftist of him.
“The death penalty, Francis wrote, "entails cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment." These are all subjective opinions. I suspect most people do not think the death penalty as punishment for premeditated murder is necessarily cruel, inhumane or degrading. What are all of us missing? And why isn't life imprisonment cruel, inhumane and degrading? (Indeed, opposition to life imprisonment is already the norm in many progressive countries like Norway, where someone murdered 77 people, mostly children, and received a 21-year prison sentence.)” Pope Francis Rewrites Catholicism ... and the Bible
The history of Leftist movements has never shown concern for the innocent....who can be surprised at the mutterings of Marx's Pope?
…the other talking mule, has decided that innocent lives don’t matter. How Leftist of him.
“The death penalty, Francis wrote, "entails cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment." These are all subjective opinions. I suspect most people do not think the death penalty as punishment for premeditated murder is necessarily cruel, inhumane or degrading. What are all of us missing? And why isn't life imprisonment cruel, inhumane and degrading? (Indeed, opposition to life imprisonment is already the norm in many progressive countries like Norway, where someone murdered 77 people, mostly children, and received a 21-year prison sentence.)” Pope Francis Rewrites Catholicism ... and the Bible
The history of Leftist movements has never shown concern for the innocent....who can be surprised at the mutterings of Marx's Pope?
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True. Radical Leftist core doctrine seeks to interpret away all morality as situational.
Compost
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The Pope doesn't.
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