Zone1 How many years might Emperor Charlemagne have been in Purgatory?

[MarathonMike]

But can a Christian leader fall into a temptation that is throw to them by Satan?

I suppose so. But what is a "temptation"? Having sex with a woman other than his wife? And if he did, would that be his ticket to eternal agony boiling in a lava pit? Why?

 

[Mashmont]

The inconsistency of who does or does not go to Hell even amongst the various Christian sects is another reason to doubt or reject the concept of Hell. For example my dear departed Grandmother was a devout Baptist and her Church said Catholics were going to Hell because they worshipped Mary who was a false God.

Your mistake is lumping all Christian churches together. That's not the view of the true Church, which is the one Jesus founded, the Roman Catholic Church. You're being confused by the other churches.

 

[MarathonMike]

Near death experiencer Cody Leatherbury saw part of hell....
but what he saw has helped him to become an extremely zealous and on fire Christian since his experience.

He saw aspects of hell that you will find to be extremely interesting if you have the time to get into this account.

Artist Died & Saw Inside the Minds of Prisoners In Hell​

So this man died, went to Hell and was given insight into the thoughts of the damned? That's a new one.

Your mistake is lumping all Christian churches together. That's not the view of the true Church, which is the one Jesus founded, the Roman Catholic Church. You're being confused by the other churches.

Oh I see there is only one "true" Christian sect, which is yours. Thank you for clarifying that. You sound like my Grandmother.

 

[Mashmont]

Oh I see there is only one "true" Christian sect, which is yours. Thank you for clarifying that.

That is correct. You’re welcome. But doesn’t it make sense that the only denomination that was around at the time of Jesus and the one He founded would be the true Christian religion? This is only logical, isn’t it?

 

[DennisPTate]

That is correct. You’re welcome. But doesn’t it make sense that the only denomination that was around at the time of Jesus and the one He founded would be the true Christian religion? This is only logical, isn’t it?

I am of the belief that the Charismatic Renewal will transform Roman Catholicism over the coming years. I believe that Rick Joyner is one example of somebody who would probably say that they are Charismatic Catholic, [or at least the Charismatic movement helped to get him started on his path].

The Hordes of Hell Are Marching

On February the 16th, 1995 I was given a dream in which I saw a great army from hell that had been released against the church. Two days later I was given a vision in which I saw this diabolical horde again, but in much greater detail. This is an abbreviated version of the first part of that...

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The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

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[Rick Joyner, The Final Quest] .... "We have our incorruptible bodies now, and you do not. Our minds are no longer hindered by sin. We are therefore able to comprehend many times what even the greatest earthly mind can fathom, and we will spend eternity growing in our ability to understand. This is so that we can know the Father, and understand the glory of His creation. On earth you cannot even begin to understand what the least of these here know, and we are the least of those here."

"How could you be the least?" I asked with disbelief.

"There is an aristocracy here. The rewards for our earthly lives are the eternal positions that we have here. This great multitude here are those whom the Lord called 'foolish virgins.' We knew the Lord, and trusted in His cross for deliverance from damnation, but we did not really live for Him, but for ourselves. We did not keep our vessels filled with the oil of the Holy Spirit. We have eternal life, but we wasted our lives on earth."

I was really surprised by this, but I also knew that no one could lie in that place.

"The foolish virgins gnashed their teeth in the outer darkness," I protested.

"And that we did. The grief that we experienced when we understood how we had so wasted our lives was beyond any grief possible on earth. The darkness of that grief can only be understood by those who have experienced it. Such darkness is magnified when it is revealed next to the glory of the One we failed. You are standing now among the lowest rank in heaven. There are no greater fools than the ones who know the great salvation of God, but then go on living for themselves. To come here and learn the reality of that folly is a grief beyond what an earthly soul can experience. We are those who suffered this outer darkness because of this greatest of follies."

I was still incredulous. "But you are more glorious and full of more joy and peace than I even imagined, even for those in heaven. I do not feel any remorse in you, and yet I know that here you cannot lie. This does not make sense to me."

Looking me straight in the eyes, he continued, "The Lord also loves us with a love greater than you can yet understand. Before His judgment seat I tasted the greatest darkness of soul and remorse that can be experienced. Though here we do not measure time as you do, it seemed to last for as long as my life on earth had lasted. All of my sins and follies which I had not repented of passed before me, and before all who are here. The grief of this you cannot understand until you have experienced it. I felt that I was in the deepest dungeon of hell, even as I stood before the Lord. He was resolute until my life had been completely reviewed. When I said I was sorry and asked for the mercy of His cross, He wiped away my tears and took away the great darkness. He looked at me with a love that was beyond anything that you can now understand. He gave me this robe. I no longer feel the darkness or bitterness that I knew as I stood before Him, but I remember it. Only here can you remember such things without continuing to feel the pain. A moment in the lowest part of heaven is much greater than a thousand years of the highest life on earth. Now my mourning at my folly has been turned into joy, and I know that I will know joy forever, even if I am in the lowest place in heaven."

I began to think again of the treasures of salvation. Somehow I knew that all that this man had told me was revealed by those treasures. Every step I had taken up the mountain, or into it, had revealed that His ways are both more fearful and more wonderful than I had known before.​

The Call

This sequel to The Final Quest issues a prophetic challenge to seize your destiny. Rick Joyner explores the restoration of the earth and the ultimate purpose of the Christian life in the face of spiritual darkness.

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