Ben Thomson
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Communism is the worst idea ever invented but yet it is still believed in by millions?..the same can be said about trickle-down economics..
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Uhhh huh, and communism never drifts into full blown dictatorship does it? Never? Or does it all eventually go there if not immediately?
EVEN IF you found one leader who uses Marxism to distribute wealth like a Robin Hood, you don't think that would be the exception?
Give us your countries and leaders that it really worked. You seem to be suggesting that life in the Soviet Union was so much better for the average person than in the US.
Uhhh huh
Tell me. How many Americans defected to the Soviet Union or any of their satellite nations like Cuba. Is there a story where even ONE AMERICAN of any color (I mean blacks are so persecuted here despite over 40,000 black millionaires in the US) escaped to Cuba other than that one negro female who fled there after killing a cop?
Why wasn't there any cases of anyone breaking into East Germany to live there when the Stassi controlled everything you did?
You talked to a person? So did I. My family. 3 members of which were executed in Cuba. It wasn't for murdering anyone. It was expressing their views.
But..
That is perfectly fine to you. Like you cannot see the long term ramifications and why Communist countries have millions of people desperately trying to escape as compared to NO ONE trying to escape America and its tyranny of Burger Kings and 7 Elevens.
Sometimes more........ During the 1970 there were plenty of defections from the U.S. to Cuba. Airliners were being hijacked to Cuba every week.
What does that mean, "It doesn't work"? Of course it works.
And that is why she didn't move back lol. Why did she move to begin with. lolMy wife grew up in the Soviet Union. She had a happy childhood.
She'd definitely preferred life in the Soviet Union to life in the U.S.A.
In the Soviet Union everyone had:
Free Childcare
A Job
Free Education
Free housing
Free medical care
Free education
Guaranteed pensions
Long maternal leaves
Good quality, safe public transportation.
They had a limited variety of foods, but there was never any food shortages.
EVERYONE worked. No blood sucking non-productive capitalist hording all the wealth.
In short, everyone had security. No one had to worry about being laid off and losing everything they spent their lives working for.
Trying to have an intellectual discussion with you is like trying to teach algebra to a chicken. You simply do not know what you are talking about. You have no experience and no knowledge. I mean no personal offence - honestly - but you really know nothing about the subject.Nope, it's breaks down in the end every time. First of all it still is a class system of haves and have nots, the have's run things at the top, the have nots get crumbe while their maters live in luxury. Sound familiar?
Demand will ALWAYS at some point exceed what is produced, you cannot hide what the Soviet Union did to try and make ends meet. Millions of dead Ukrainians, Chinese and Cambodians can attest to that.
Trying to have an intellectual discussion with you is like trying to teach algebra to a chicken. You simply do not know what you are talking about. You have no experience and no knowledge. I mean no personal offence - honestly - but you really know nothing about the subject.
I assume that you've got a tattoo on each hand - one says "Communism = Bad" and the other one says "Capitalism = Good". I hope you are young because you've got a lot to learn.
BTW and FYI it was the Communist Vietnamese who liberated their country from the French, liberated it again from the Americans and they also put a stop to the Khmer Rouge, thus liberating Cambodia as well.
People will believe anything thing if they want to badly enough.Here's the worst part: These folks really believe this.
People will believe anything thing if they want to badly enough.
I don't. Never did. But then I'm not a prog.Just stop, you have progs all over this forum who still believe that the dossier was real and that Russia stole it from Hillary.
I don't. Never did. But then I'm not a prog.
I mentioned elsewhere here today that you look into the eyes of these people in real life, and they really are terrified. They really do think we're in the midst of a communist takeover, that the Chinese tanks are going to be rolling down their street at any moment. They'll lose everything, they'll end up in concentration camps, their loved ones will suffer.People will believe anything thing if they want to badly enough.
I mentioned elsewhere here today that you look into the eyes of these people in real life, and they really are terrified. They really do think we're in the midst of a communist takeover, that the Chinese tanks are going to be rolling down their street at any moment. They'll lose everything, they'll end up in concentration camps, their loved ones will suffer.
Then, they conditioned to disbelieve facts from any source that is not approved in their universe, so you can't just point at something and say LOOK. So their paranoia just grows and grows and multiplies on itself, because it's the only input they will "trust".
Fucking amazing.
I'm glad you think you have to (a) change the subject, and (b) try to minimize and trivialize this madness by trying to equate it with a dossier.Just stop, you have progs all over this forum who still believe that the dossier was real and that Russia stole it from Hillary.
I'm glad you think you have to (a) change the subject, and (b) try to minimize and trivialize this madness by trying to equate it with a dossier.
Good stuff.
Riiiiight. People can't fuck that up.You could say the same thing about libertarianism or even calitalism.
The only thing close to a remedy is democray
The latter.Riiiight, did you miss the whole meaning of my post or is this just your opportunity to shit on democracy?