2aguy
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Please explain why this is so important to you to have an AR-15. We had guns in the house in leather locked bags and we shot them. I even pulled the trigger when my father sighted. He taught me to never pull a gun on any living being. I violated this teaching once, in Castroville, Texas, when I was 12 and practicing with my aunt's pistol. I shot at a spider on the back of the garage.
Explain yourself and why you would need an assault weapon.
The AR-15 is not an "Assault" weapon, it is just a common semi-automatic rifle.....so your premise is a lie from the start.
The AR-15 is a great civilian and police rifle, easy to clean and maintain, it can be equipped with accessories that help people shoot it, from lasers to lights, it is customizable for different sized people, including the ability for different sized people in the same home to use it easily with adjustable stocks. It is easy to shoot for smaller people, unlike 12 gauge shot guns, it is lightweight which makes it good for home defense where you might have to hold it one handed while calling the police on your phone.............
The AR-15 is a really good rifle for civilians...for all of those reasons....and it is nothing more than a regular rifle....
The only reason you shitheads are demonizing the outside look of this rifle is that you figure if you can ban the AR-15, which is just a semi-automatic rifle no different from any other semi-automatic rifle.....that then gives you the ability to go to uninformed people and say......"See....you let us ban this rifle because we made you think it was different and more dangerous.......all the other semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns work the exact same way, so now we are going to ban those too...and you can't say anything since you let us ban the AR-15 which is the same as those other weapons."
We know who you are, we know what you want.........and we are going to fight you every step of the way.
Fine. Fight it through legislation the way it should be done in the first place. But the problem with the AR was that it reached cult status and no mass shooter, today, leaves home dressed any other way. It just wouldn't be proper.
And the AR is still a Model 6XX no matter how you spell it. You can call it the Colt Model 6920 or the Colt Model 750 (out of production) or you can piece on together from after market parts. In the end, it's still part of the Colt Model 6XX Family. It's not designed with hunting for food. It's was designed from the ground up to kill other humans. Not one part has any other use. And there is no way you can give it the drop dead looks of a fine Hunting Rifle.
It is a semi-automatic rifle just like any other semi-automatic rifle, pistol or shotgun....if you can ban it because of the way it shoots, then you can ban every other semi-automatic rifle, pistol and shotgun.......which is the whole strategy behind going after the AR-15.
The AR-15 kills fewer people each year than knives, clubs and bare hands.......so your reason why it is more dangerous than other weapons is just silly. The AR-15 is nothing more than a standard civilian rifle...it is not used by the military.....but the pump action shotgun and deer hunting rifle are actual, current, military weapons .........which is why the anti-gun extremists say weapons of war now....so they can later ban those guns too.
But it's the leader in Mass Shootings because that is exactly what every part was made to do. In every other type of shooting (short of war), the AR-15 doesn't place even a distant 4th in the ratings. Even cheaper conventional Semi-Autos score higher. But for mass shootings, it does take the #1 slot hands down.
No, it isn't. More handguns are used in mass public shootings than rifles. The AR-15 was made popular for mass shootings by the anti-gunners. And again, each year, knives, clubs and bare hands are used to murder more people than AR-15 rifles....
Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
Knives...1,476
Clubs....397
Bare hands....600
Rifles...364
Funny, you use totals instead of the number of people killed at each shooting. It's a lot tougher to get a death rate of over 50 with a casualty rate of between 200 and 400 out of a knife, club, bare hands or even a handgun.
Yeah.....and only one mass shooting achieved over 50........that was 61 people... because he used a rifle at long distance, firing into an unaware, tightly packed crowd of over 22,000 people, at night.........
A muslim terrorist in Nice, France using a rental truck and 5 minutes of driving murdered 86 and wounded 435......
The vegas shooter had a private pilots license...he could have killed more people had he rented a plane and flown into the crowd....
The weapon does not determine how many people will be killed......the major factor in mass public shootings is the target location....and add to that the gun free zone status of the location..
The shooting stops when the good guys with guns get there...
Just for the record...
Sandy Hook... AR-15....27 killed, 2 injured.
Colorado theater, AR-15 which malfunctioned followed by a shotgun and pistol...12 killed...70 wounded.....and his AR-15 malfunctioned
Holmes reportedly threw two canisters emitting a gas or smoke, that partially obscured the audience members' vision, made their throats and skin itch, and caused eye irritation.[16] He fired a 12-gauge Remington 870 Express Tactical shotgun, first at the ceiling and then at the audience.
He also fired a Smith & Wesson M&P15[17] semi-automatic rifle with a 100-round drum magazine, which eventually malfunctioned.[17][18][19]
Finally, he fired a .40-caliber Glock 22 Gen4 handgun.[20][21]
Meanwhile......pistols have killed more people....
Virgini Tech shooting, 2 pistols...... 32 killed, 23 wounded
Luby's Cafe....2 pistols....24 killed.. 27 injured...
Kerch, Russia, Polytech school shooting....5 shot, pump action shotgun....20 killed, 70 wounded.
So, mass public shootings do not depend on long range shooting. You have one, the Vegas Shooting, vs all the rest.......
At the ranges a mass public shooting occurs, the attacker could kill as many people or more with pistols or shotguns.....a rifle does not give them an advantage.
The Desire to ban the AR-15 rifle by anti-gun extremists has nothing to do with mass public shooting, as the facts show.....they just know if they can get uninformed or gullible people to allow them to ban the AR-15 rifle, a civilian rifle, a semi-automatic rifle no different in operation from a semi-auto pistol, or shotgun........then they can come back and demand banning semi-auto pistols and shotguns too.....because they all operate the same way.
And don't forget the gallon of gasoline in New York that murdered over 70.
Thank the gods that the asshole in Vegas used a gun. If he'd have done a Nice France type attack, he would have probably killed over 1000. They were literally packed in like fish in a barrel.
Yep.....a private plane loaded with fuel? With fuel cans packed into the plane before hand....I don't want to give anyone ideas but the silliness of the "AR-15s can kill a lot of people," needs to be shown as the silly argument it is...