Judge strikes down Trump’s $15 billion suit against the New York Times

[OODA_Loop]

I went #2 today and it smelled like roses.

This one is going nowhere

stick a fork in that tofu turkey loaf it is done

That’s different than a judge not tossing your case but giving you time to amend your complaint.

 

[Ropey]

I think you should look at the won-loss numbers with Trump in the courts at the Appellate

• Notable Wins:
  • Trump v. United States (2024): 6-3 immunity ruling for "official acts," shielding election challenges.
  • 2025 Term: 7-2 stay on migrant removals under Alien Enemies Act (with due process); 6-3 on transgender military ban; 8-1 on TPS revocations for 500K migrants; 5-4 on Education Dept. grant cuts; limited universal injunctions in birthright citizenship case (6-3, remanded to lower courts).
  • Mass firings: 7-2 stay allowing probationary employee terminations (April 2025).
• Trend: 2025 "blockbuster" term yielded "extraordinary run of victories," curbing nationwide injunctions and deferring to executive power.

In summary, while district courts have been a consistent roadblock (80%+ losses), appellate courts offer 40% success, and the Supreme Court - especially in 2025 - tips toward Trump (70% on key interventions).

This reflects a judiciary checking aggressive policies but yielding to a conservative High Court on appeals.

Many cases remain pending, with ~162 awaiting rulings as of September 2025.

The Supreme Court handles ~1–2% of cases but intervenes frequently via "shadow docket" emergency stays (19 applications in first 20 weeks of 2025 term alone). First-term win rate was historically low (43.5%, vs. 65% average since FDR), reflecting less deference to executive overreach. In 2025, however, the Cour - remade by Trump's three appointees - has issued a "triumphant" streak, with 16 consecutive wins by July, often 6-3 along ideological lines.

• Win Rate: ~50% overall; ~43% first term (merits cases); ~70–80% on 2025 cases.

 

[sealybobo]

Tightie whities and a claw hammer?

Oh The humanity.

Not tasteless? Not insensitive to right wing violence?

Kimmel was cancelled for less.

Don't forget you're defending a guy who's on Epstein's client list.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Not tasteless? Not insensitive to right wing violence?

Kimmel was cancelled for less.

Don't forget you're defending a guy who's on Epstein's client list.

Hortman was killed by democrat.

Kimmel should take it up with ABC.

If the Epstein List implicates Trump it would have been released immediately under Biden.

 

[sealybobo]

Hortman was killed by democrat.

Kimmel should take it up with ABC.

If the Epstein List implicates Trump it would have been released immediately under Biden.

Why? Then they'd be outing a bunch of other rich powerful pedos too.

You guys ran on releasing it and it's obvious you are lying about it now.

Kash just recently lied to congress and said he hasn't read the full file. Do you believe that? Then I can't take you seriously now can I?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Why? Then they'd be outing a bunch of other rich powerful pedos too.

You guys ran on releasing it and it's obvious you are lying about it now.

Kash just recently lied to congress and said he hasn't read the full file. Do you believe that? Then I can't take you seriously now can I?

You really don't know if anyone is lying.

I doubt Kash read everything in the file. Makes sense.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I think it's obvious to everyone Trump isn't going to bring down drug prices 1000%, 500%, 200%.

What we really don't know is if Trump is purposely lying, can't help himself or so stupid he doesn't know that he's making shit up.

And you don't care? That's the most amazing part.

So you went from Epstein Files to drug prices......you are reaching for anything you can weaponize. Keep trying.

 

[percysunshine]

And just like that, Trump manoevered the loony left into boycotting the lamestream media.

LOL, I remember when the left went ape shit crazy when Ron Desantis went after Disney.
Now the left is trying to cancel Disney. Pure entertainment.

 

[OODA_Loop]

And I won't watch fox and Newsmax. The late shows do it for me and show me I'm missing NOTHING but brainwashing and lies.

You sound like you get your indoctrination from late night "comedians". I see that.

 

[percysunshine]

Kash was asked how many times Trump is mentioned. When asked 500 times, 200 times, 100 times, each time he said no. No, it wasn't that many times. But he wouldn't give a number. So it was more than 1 we know that. Between 1 and 100. Aren't you watching Kash be interviewed?

This is why I'm going to miss the late shows. They tape these hearings and show us what crazy shit is going on. I don't have time to watch CSPAN and Fox all day like you.

And I won't watch fox and Newsmax. The late shows do it for me and show me I'm missing NOTHING but brainwashing and lies.

Kimmel and Colbert are your source for politics?

This explains soo much.

 

[Ropey]

The man who poisoned the waters now shows up pretending to be the water commissioner.

 

[sealybobo]

Kimmel and Colbert are your source for politics?

This explains soo much.

They explain things you don't even know. So the news you see is heavily edited and censored, dude.

People who watch Kimmel and Colbert last night know what they are seeing on Fox today is a lie cause they saw the truth the night before.

 

[percysunshine]

They explain things you don't even know. So the news you see is heavily edited and censored, dude.

People who watch Kimmel and Colbert last night know what they are seeing on Fox today is a lie cause they saw the truth the night before.

I don't get my news from television. For exactly those reasons.
I read multiple accounts of the same event from competing sites, both left and right.

The tells are always what people don't talk about, not what they say or show. Try it some time.

 

[0311]

A first year law student could read the complaint and see it was trash. When a complaint starts out with, "President Trump secured the greatest personal and political achievement in American history," you know you are dealing with some inept attorneys or attorneys who sold their souls to Trump for the almighty dollar. The Complaint was less a legal document and more a propaganda rag for Trump, full of his worn-out lies of being a victim and the press not giving him the credit he deserves. One thing is obvious. The suit had no merit and was brought as a means of intimidation. The Judge was right to toss it.

As the judge wrote:

Even assuming all that Trump wrote was true, "a complaint remains an improper and impermissible place for the tedious and burdensome aggregation of prospective evidence, for the rehearsal of tendentious arguments, or for the protracted
recitation and explanation of legal authority putatively supporting the pleader’s claim or relief. As every lawyer knows (or is presumed to know), a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective — not a protected platform to rage against an
adversary. A complaint is not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers’ Corner."

The judge nailed it.

Trump could attempt to amend, but it will go nowhere.


If this lawsuit were to proceed, the first amendment would effectively be dead. Every politician will sue any news outlet that effectively hurts their ego. Intimidation and a frail ego is what this lawsuit was ever really about.

YEah, but you have to admit the Discovery Phase would something to see. 47 HAS TO PROVE he was defamed.

 

[OKTexas]

Thread cleaned, 2 thread bans issued, stay on topic people

 

[Moonglow]

People who support Trump are always claiming that Trump never loses in the courts. When I reply with "Trump did not win in court." One big comeback is "Trump won against Stephanopoulos' and his network" which of course is blatantly false as reality is that Stephanopoulos' employer 'settled" in court

Trump did not "win in court."


and a fuller context would add:
"Still, a federal judge in New York later ruled that it was accurate to say that Trump was found liable for rape in “common modern parlance.”"

In order to praise Trump, his supporters can only misrepresent facts. I feel for them, I really do.

Here we have another case of Maga Winning!

Judge strikes down Trump’s $15 billion suit against the New York Times​

Calling it “decidedly improper and impermissible,” Judge Steven D. Merryday slammed the 85-page complaint and said it could not stand.

A federal judge in Tampa struck down President Donald Trump’s $15 billion defamation lawsuit against the New York Times, saying that the 85-page complaint was “decidedly improper and impermissible” under the rules governing civil proceedings in federal court.

U.S. District Judge Steven D. Merryday, an appointee of President George H.W. Bush, issued a scathing ruling on Friday, lambasting the president and his lawyers for the lawsuit.

“In this action, a prominent American citizen (perhaps the most prominent American citizen) alleges defamation by a prominent American newspaper publisher (perhaps the most prominent American newspaper publisher) and by several other corporate and natural persons,” he wrote. “Alleging only two simple counts of defamation, the complaint consumes eighty-five pages. Count I appears on page eighty, and Count II appears on page eighty-three.”
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The White House declined to comment.

“President Trump will continue to hold the Fake News accountable through this powerhouse lawsuit against the New York Times, its reporters, and Penguin Random House, in accordance with the judge’s direction on logistics,” a spokesperson for Trump’s legal team wrote in a statement.

In addition to the legal issues at hand, Merryday bemoaned the writing.

“The reader of the complaint must labor through allegations, such as ‘a new journalistic low for the hopelessly compromised and tarnished ‘Gray Lady.' The reader must endure an allegation of ‘the desperate need to defame with a partisan spear rather than report with an authentic looking glass’ and an allegation that ‘the false narrative about ‘The Apprentice’ was just the tip of Defendants’ melting iceberg of falsehoods.’”

The judge said every lawyer should know that a complaint is not a “public forum for vituperation and invective” nor a “megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers’ Corner.”
The judge said a new complaint may be filed within 28 days and must be under 40 pages long.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/09/19/judge-strikes-down-trumps-15-billion-suit-against-new-york-times/

 

[Dekster]

Traditionally the bar for defamation is extremely high when it comes to public figures. The judge pointing out that Trump is perhaps the biggest of them all was a warning IMHO that a re-filed lawsuit won't be going anywhere either, but we'll see.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

People who support Trump are always claiming that Trump never loses in the courts. When I reply with "Trump did not win in court." One big comeback is "Trump won against Stephanopoulos' and his network" which of course is blatantly false as reality is that Stephanopoulos' employer 'settled" in court

Trump did not "win in court."


and a fuller context would add:
"Still, a federal judge in New York later ruled that it was accurate to say that Trump was found liable for rape in “common modern parlance.”"

In order to praise Trump, his supporters can only misrepresent facts. I feel for them, I really do.

Here we have another case of Maga Winning!

Judge strikes down Trump’s $15 billion suit against the New York Times​

Calling it “decidedly improper and impermissible,” Judge Steven D. Merryday slammed the 85-page complaint and said it could not stand.

A federal judge in Tampa struck down President Donald Trump’s $15 billion defamation lawsuit against the New York Times, saying that the 85-page complaint was “decidedly improper and impermissible” under the rules governing civil proceedings in federal court.

U.S. District Judge Steven D. Merryday, an appointee of President George H.W. Bush, issued a scathing ruling on Friday, lambasting the president and his lawyers for the lawsuit.

“In this action, a prominent American citizen (perhaps the most prominent American citizen) alleges defamation by a prominent American newspaper publisher (perhaps the most prominent American newspaper publisher) and by several other corporate and natural persons,” he wrote. “Alleging only two simple counts of defamation, the complaint consumes eighty-five pages. Count I appears on page eighty, and Count II appears on page eighty-three.”
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The White House declined to comment.

“President Trump will continue to hold the Fake News accountable through this powerhouse lawsuit against the New York Times, its reporters, and Penguin Random House, in accordance with the judge’s direction on logistics,” a spokesperson for Trump’s legal team wrote in a statement.

In addition to the legal issues at hand, Merryday bemoaned the writing.

“The reader of the complaint must labor through allegations, such as ‘a new journalistic low for the hopelessly compromised and tarnished ‘Gray Lady.' The reader must endure an allegation of ‘the desperate need to defame with a partisan spear rather than report with an authentic looking glass’ and an allegation that ‘the false narrative about ‘The Apprentice’ was just the tip of Defendants’ melting iceberg of falsehoods.’”

The judge said every lawyer should know that a complaint is not a “public forum for vituperation and invective” nor a “megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers’ Corner.”
The judge said a new complaint may be filed within 28 days and must be under 40 pages long.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/09/19/judge-strikes-down-trumps-15-billion-suit-against-new-york-times/

I can’t wait Trump to appoint himself as a Federal Judge!

Can he do that while still serving as POTUS?

 

[Hollie]

It was a bullshit lawsuit from start to finish.

How lucky to have you goofy message board attorneys.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

People who support Trump are always claiming that Trump never loses in the courts. When I reply with "Trump did not win in court." One big comeback is "Trump won against Stephanopoulos' and his network" which of course is blatantly false as reality is that Stephanopoulos' employer 'settled" in court

Trump did not "win in court."


and a fuller context would add:
"Still, a federal judge in New York later ruled that it was accurate to say that Trump was found liable for rape in “common modern parlance.”"

In order to praise Trump, his supporters can only misrepresent facts. I feel for them, I really do.

Here we have another case of Maga Winning!

Judge strikes down Trump’s $15 billion suit against the New York Times​

Calling it “decidedly improper and impermissible,” Judge Steven D. Merryday slammed the 85-page complaint and said it could not stand.

A federal judge in Tampa struck down President Donald Trump’s $15 billion defamation lawsuit against the New York Times, saying that the 85-page complaint was “decidedly improper and impermissible” under the rules governing civil proceedings in federal court.

U.S. District Judge Steven D. Merryday, an appointee of President George H.W. Bush, issued a scathing ruling on Friday, lambasting the president and his lawyers for the lawsuit.

“In this action, a prominent American citizen (perhaps the most prominent American citizen) alleges defamation by a prominent American newspaper publisher (perhaps the most prominent American newspaper publisher) and by several other corporate and natural persons,” he wrote. “Alleging only two simple counts of defamation, the complaint consumes eighty-five pages. Count I appears on page eighty, and Count II appears on page eighty-three.”
Advertisement

The White House declined to comment.

“President Trump will continue to hold the Fake News accountable through this powerhouse lawsuit against the New York Times, its reporters, and Penguin Random House, in accordance with the judge’s direction on logistics,” a spokesperson for Trump’s legal team wrote in a statement.

In addition to the legal issues at hand, Merryday bemoaned the writing.

“The reader of the complaint must labor through allegations, such as ‘a new journalistic low for the hopelessly compromised and tarnished ‘Gray Lady.' The reader must endure an allegation of ‘the desperate need to defame with a partisan spear rather than report with an authentic looking glass’ and an allegation that ‘the false narrative about ‘The Apprentice’ was just the tip of Defendants’ melting iceberg of falsehoods.’”

The judge said every lawyer should know that a complaint is not a “public forum for vituperation and invective” nor a “megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers’ Corner.”
The judge said a new complaint may be filed within 28 days and must be under 40 pages long.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/09/19/judge-strikes-down-trumps-15-billion-suit-against-new-york-times/

A ridiculous waste of time and money – Trump is the worst president in US history.