Colorado judge strikes down AR-15 ban, and over 10 round magazine ban....good.

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, we need to hold the gun industry accountable.

The law we need to pass, allowing the victims of gun violence to hold gun sellers and manufacturers responsible when they sell to people who shouldn't own guns.

Sounds great. That precedent should follow other things. We should allow Microsoft and Apple to be sued when people use their computers to lure children for sex, or set people up to be robbed and killed responding to sales ads. A woman who used to unload me at one of my stops got taken for her life savings because some player conned her nickel and dime. Can she sue the match making site where she met this scammer that robbed her of that 30 grand?

Communists have always hated our Constitution and always will. It's what stops them from turning our country into Nazi Germany which is what they're after. Allowing lowlifes to sue all gun manufactures and gun sellers out of business is their attempt to get around the founding document.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wow, you are saying that the murder of nice white people gets more attention than the murder of people of color.

Why do you think that is?

It's because you see everything through race in your life.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When is a firearm needed by an average citizen?

Depending on who's estimate you use, firearms are used by law abiding Americans between 1 and 4 million times every year. The FBI statistic puts it at 1.1 million times a year. These stories are not reported by our national media, so you just assume they don't happen, but they do. If it's a slow news day, maybe your local news will report on it, but even then it's kind of rare because it happens so often. The root word to news is "new." People stopping crime, protecting themselves, protecting others is an everyday event in the United States.

 

[Blues Man]

Please explain why this is so important to you to have an AR-15. We had guns in the house in leather locked bags and we shot them. I even pulled the trigger when my father sighted. He taught me to never pull a gun on any living being. I violated this teaching once, in Castroville, Texas, when I was 12 and practicing with my aunt's pistol. I shot at a spider on the back of the garage.

Explain yourself and why you would need an assault weapon.

When a firearm is needed, the body's adrenaline is pumping and even trained police officers, actually "miss" half the time when shooting. A semi-automatic rifle actually makes hitting the target easier, even if your adrenaline is going and if there is a home-invasion, or armed robbers in your home and a serious threat to your life.
Also, a knife, sword, hammer, screwdriver, bat, or even your fists are literally, "assault weapons," when you are "assaulting" someone and semi-automatic rifles with a ten, twenty, or thirty round magazine, are separately being called, "assault weapons" to simply make you think they are "more scary" than other things used in a crime.
Separately, read the Second Amendment......AND......the Federalist Papers by our founding fathers.
The right to bear arms wasn't to ensure hunting...although even nations with strict gun laws, allow for their citizens to have hunting weapons. The founding fathers saw where civilian groups gathered together, forming guerilla militias, were critical to winning the war against England and wanted to ensure that should any future tyrannical government, whether foreign...or...domestic attempt to conquer this nation and take away the rights under our Constitution, civilian militias could form and assist in defending the individual states.
It has been said that Emperor Hirohito considered invading the United States with ground troops, but was dissuaded by his generals, as, "there would be a gun under every blade of grass." Whether that is a factual quote, I don't know. However, not long ago, our chief adversary, China, has said that they perceive American citizens owning firearms as a "problem." That should be a hint to definitely...."keep the firearms, including AR-15 style rifles," in the hands of "LAW-ABIDING Citizens." For the LITERALLY TENS OF MILLIONS of "law-abiding" citizens are literally that....law-abiding and NOT committing any crimes with their firearms and that includes the millions of AR-15 style semi-automatic rifles with large capacity magazines in their hands.

When is a firearm needed by an average citizen? why a firearm that sprays bullets? If, on the off-chance, that someone invades your house, a pistol will do nicely. No "tyrannical government" has invaded this country. These pigs that call themselves "militias" here in the 21st Century are ignorant white gangs, just like there are black gangs like the Crips and the Bloods, and they should be treated the same way.

BTW: you speak of "tyrannical government." Would you agree that women, LGBTs, non-white folks, and people of different faiths have the same rights to defend ourselves from it? Should we all march against some trash like trump and abbott and company carrying AR-15s and use them if necessary? You are the one referring to "TENS OF MILLIONS of "law-abiding" citizens". Last night I saw a news piece about a black militia group and a Black woman spoke about taking firearms practice. It was good to see. She explained that her intent was defensive only. I'm of European ancestry, but I have to agree with her. What if some tyrant like trump or abbott or their trashy friends try to pull their tyrannical shit on Americans again? You are advocating that we just shoot them. Do you agree that sic semper tyrannis applies to everyone?

Who the **** are you to tell me what firearm I can or can't use to defend my home and my wife?

 

[Blues Man]

Please explain why this is so important to you to have an AR-15. We had guns in the house in leather locked bags and we shot them. I even pulled the trigger when my father sighted. He taught me to never pull a gun on any living being. I violated this teaching once, in Castroville, Texas, when I was 12 and practicing with my aunt's pistol. I shot at a spider on the back of the garage.

Explain yourself and why you would need an assault weapon.

When a firearm is needed, the body's adrenaline is pumping and even trained police officers, actually "miss" half the time when shooting. A semi-automatic rifle actually makes hitting the target easier, even if your adrenaline is going and if there is a home-invasion, or armed robbers in your home and a serious threat to your life.
Also, a knife, sword, hammer, screwdriver, bat, or even your fists are literally, "assault weapons," when you are "assaulting" someone and semi-automatic rifles with a ten, twenty, or thirty round magazine, are separately being called, "assault weapons" to simply make you think they are "more scary" than other things used in a crime.
Separately, read the Second Amendment......AND......the Federalist Papers by our founding fathers.
The right to bear arms wasn't to ensure hunting...although even nations with strict gun laws, allow for their citizens to have hunting weapons. The founding fathers saw where civilian groups gathered together, forming guerilla militias, were critical to winning the war against England and wanted to ensure that should any future tyrannical government, whether foreign...or...domestic attempt to conquer this nation and take away the rights under our Constitution, civilian militias could form and assist in defending the individual states.
It has been said that Emperor Hirohito considered invading the United States with ground troops, but was dissuaded by his generals, as, "there would be a gun under every blade of grass." Whether that is a factual quote, I don't know. However, not long ago, our chief adversary, China, has said that they perceive American citizens owning firearms as a "problem." That should be a hint to definitely...."keep the firearms, including AR-15 style rifles," in the hands of "LAW-ABIDING Citizens." For the LITERALLY TENS OF MILLIONS of "law-abiding" citizens are literally that....law-abiding and NOT committing any crimes with their firearms and that includes the millions of AR-15 style semi-automatic rifles with large capacity magazines in their hands.

When is a firearm needed by an average citizen? why a firearm that sprays bullets? If, on the off-chance, that someone invades your house, a pistol will do nicely. No "tyrannical government" has invaded this country. These pigs that call themselves "militias" here in the 21st Century are ignorant white gangs, just like there are black gangs like the Crips and the Bloods, and they should be treated the same way.

BTW: you speak of "tyrannical government." Would you agree that women, LGBTs, non-white folks, and people of different faiths have the same rights to defend ourselves from it? Should we all march against some trash like trump and abbott and company carrying AR-15s and use them if necessary? You are the one referring to "TENS OF MILLIONS of "law-abiding" citizens". Last night I saw a news piece about a black militia group and a Black woman spoke about taking firearms practice. It was good to see. She explained that her intent was defensive only. I'm of European ancestry, but I have to agree with her. What if some tyrant like trump or abbott or their trashy friends try to pull their tyrannical shit on Americans again? You are advocating that we just shoot them. Do you agree that sic semper tyrannis applies to everyone?

Like I said.... cvnt.

Thanks . . . prick. Do you make much standing on a street corner? Any customers? You ho's are disgusting. Stand up and be an American and a man, for a change.

And go make me a sandwich.

 

[Crepitus]

Colorado judge strikes down AR-15 ban, and over 10 round magazine ban....good.

Any bets on what yesterday's shooter used?

I bet it was an AR style rifle with a large capacity magazine. The gold standard for mass shootings all over the USA.

 

[Blues Man]

Colorado judge strikes down AR-15 ban, and over 10 round magazine ban....good.

Any bets on what yesterday's shooter used?

I bet it was an AR style rifle with a large capacity magazine. The gold standard for mass shootings all over the USA.

Define large capacity.

I don't own an AR but my Ruger came with a 20 round magazine which is the standard size

 

[K9Buck]

Why do you think that is?

Because racists like you don't consider the murder of black folks as newsworthy.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Any bets on what yesterday's shooter used?

I bet it was an AR style rifle with a large capacity magazine. The gold standard for mass shootings all over the USA.

Yeah, and if we got rid of the AR, mass shooters would stop killing people.

 

[Crepitus]

Any bets on what yesterday's shooter used?

I bet it was an AR style rifle with a large capacity magazine. The gold standard for mass shootings all over the USA.

Yeah, and if we got rid of the AR, mass shooters would stop killing people.

I agree, nutters are still gonna go nuts.

But they might not be able to kill as many at once.

 

[Blues Man]

Any bets on what yesterday's shooter used?

I bet it was an AR style rifle with a large capacity magazine. The gold standard for mass shootings all over the USA.

Yeah, and if we got rid of the AR, mass shooters would stop killing people.

I agree, nutters are still gonna go nuts.

But they might not be able to kill as many at once.

Tell that to the VA Tech shooter

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why do you think that is?

Because racists like you don't consider the murder of black folks as newsworthy.

Unless they can use it to rant about "white supremacy".

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I agree, nutters are still gonna go nuts.

But they might not be able to kill as many at once.

I don't know how you figure that. A semi-automatic weapon is a semi-automatic weapon. Every time you squeeze the trigger, it fires a round. How scary a weapon looks does not equate to body count.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Please explain why this is so important to you to have an AR-15. We had guns in the house in leather locked bags and we shot them. I even pulled the trigger when my father sighted. He taught me to never pull a gun on any living being. I violated this teaching once, in Castroville, Texas, when I was 12 and practicing with my aunt's pistol. I shot at a spider on the back of the garage.

Explain yourself and why you would need an assault weapon.

When a firearm is needed, the body's adrenaline is pumping and even trained police officers, actually "miss" half the time when shooting. A semi-automatic rifle actually makes hitting the target easier, even if your adrenaline is going and if there is a home-invasion, or armed robbers in your home and a serious threat to your life.
Also, a knife, sword, hammer, screwdriver, bat, or even your fists are literally, "assault weapons," when you are "assaulting" someone and semi-automatic rifles with a ten, twenty, or thirty round magazine, are separately being called, "assault weapons" to simply make you think they are "more scary" than other things used in a crime.
Separately, read the Second Amendment......AND......the Federalist Papers by our founding fathers.
The right to bear arms wasn't to ensure hunting...although even nations with strict gun laws, allow for their citizens to have hunting weapons. The founding fathers saw where civilian groups gathered together, forming guerilla militias, were critical to winning the war against England and wanted to ensure that should any future tyrannical government, whether foreign...or...domestic attempt to conquer this nation and take away the rights under our Constitution, civilian militias could form and assist in defending the individual states.
It has been said that Emperor Hirohito considered invading the United States with ground troops, but was dissuaded by his generals, as, "there would be a gun under every blade of grass." Whether that is a factual quote, I don't know. However, not long ago, our chief adversary, China, has said that they perceive American citizens owning firearms as a "problem." That should be a hint to definitely...."keep the firearms, including AR-15 style rifles," in the hands of "LAW-ABIDING Citizens." For the LITERALLY TENS OF MILLIONS of "law-abiding" citizens are literally that....law-abiding and NOT committing any crimes with their firearms and that includes the millions of AR-15 style semi-automatic rifles with large capacity magazines in their hands.

When is a firearm needed by an average citizen? why a firearm that sprays bullets? If, on the off-chance, that someone invades your house, a pistol will do nicely. No "tyrannical government" has invaded this country. These pigs that call themselves "militias" here in the 21st Century are ignorant white gangs, just like there are black gangs like the Crips and the Bloods, and they should be treated the same way.

BTW: you speak of "tyrannical government." Would you agree that women, LGBTs, non-white folks, and people of different faiths have the same rights to defend ourselves from it? Should we all march against some trash like trump and abbott and company carrying AR-15s and use them if necessary? You are the one referring to "TENS OF MILLIONS of "law-abiding" citizens". Last night I saw a news piece about a black militia group and a Black woman spoke about taking firearms practice. It was good to see. She explained that her intent was defensive only. I'm of European ancestry, but I have to agree with her. What if some tyrant like trump or abbott or their trashy friends try to pull their tyrannical shit on Americans again? You are advocating that we just shoot them. Do you agree that sic semper tyrannis applies to everyone?

Aaahh, starting out with insults, how pathetic. It's a sure sign of someone losing an argument.
I don't give a damn if any group forming a militia in a state is Black, Asian, Hispanic, White, or Native American, as long as they are 100% pro-Constitution and its Bill of Rights (its Amendments) and aren't out committing crimes.
As for a tyrannical government, that wasn't Trump or his supporters. The Republicans are about a smaller central government, whereas the left is all about massive authoritarian oppressive government control over most of peoples lives. Good examples:
"Democratic" Peoples Republic of Korea (North Korea).
Lao (Laos) Peoples "Democratic" Republic.
"Democratic" Republic of Congo.
OR...former Socialist nations like Nazi Germany (National SOCIALIST German Workers Party), or the old Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics.
If this nation were to become a one party, authoritarian nation, which is always the case in true "Socialist" nations, then it is the obligation of its citizens to rise up and fight against such tyranny.
The same is true of standing against far-right military juntas.
As long as we ensure that this nation will have voices from multiple parties and adherence to our Constitution....not just part of it, we will continue to be a just nation.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Colorado judge strikes down AR-15 ban, and over 10 round magazine ban....good.

Any bets on what yesterday's shooter used?

I bet it was an AR style rifle with a large capacity magazine. The gold standard for mass shootings all over the USA.

and every single one was on the FBI's watch dog list, but they're to busy watching guys like me.

 

[JoeB131]

Sounds great. That precedent should follow other things. We should allow Microsoft and Apple to be sued when people use their computers to lure children for sex, or set people up to be robbed and killed responding to sales ads. A woman who used to unload me at one of my stops got taken for her life savings because some player conned her nickel and dime. Can she sue the match making site where she met this scammer that robbed her of that 30 grand?

Actually, no, since they aren't designed for that.

Guns are designed to kill people.

 

[RealDave]

Hey...Daryl hunt........you were saying about the colorado AR-15 ban?

Now, a Colorado judge has tossed the AR-15 ban in the trash bin, along with the provision prohibiting ownership of magazines that carry more than 10 rounds. That’s the backdoor gun ban right there. It’s not just about the rifle. It’s about curbing constitutional gun rights by these magazine laws.

A host of firearms that aren’t AR-15 rifles have magazines with more than 10 rounds. This law would effectively ban them too.


We all see what you’re doing here, liberal America (via Free Beacon):

A judge struck down Boulder, Colorado's ban on the possession of AR-15s and magazines holding more than 10 rounds on Monday.
Colorado state judge Andrew Hartman ruled the city's gun ban violated the state's preemption law, which prevents localities from imposing gun regulations above and beyond state law. Judge Hartman's ruling declares the ordinance invalid and immediately bars the city from enforcing the ban.
"The Court has determined that only Colorado state (or federal) law can prohibit the possession, sale, and transfer of assault weapons and large capacity magazines," Hartman wrote in the ruling.
The ruling is the latest in a string of victories for gun advocates who have used state preemption laws to overturn strict local gun regulations. A Washington court struck down a local ordinance on gun storage in February 2021, and a Pennsylvania court struck down Pittsburgh's attempt to regulate the use of AR-15s inside city limits in October 2019.
Jon Caldara, a longtime Boulder resident who openly flouted the AR-15 ban, said he was "thrilled" by the ruling. The former Denver Post columnist and Independence Institute president publicly announced he would not comply with the order to turn over his AR-15 or ammunition magazines when the ban was instituted in 2019. He filed a separate federal suit against the ordinance and said his family has received backlash from supporters ever since.
"I was probably the most publicly known criminal in Boulder," he told the Washington Free Beacon. "That made us social outcasts. And it was really bad. My daughter got bullied at school for our position."

Colorado Judge Takes a Katana to Boulder's AR-15 Ban

We touched on this back in 2018. Boulder, Colorado was pushing to ban owning AR-15 rifles. They’re c

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I agree with the ruling since that was already established by the 9th Circuit Federal Court. But the State Law reads 15 as being the max. And that has been upheld in various courts.

And that is just dumb. Limiting bullets was simply a way to back door ban various types of pistols that take 15-19 rounds in their magazine. It was stupid and pointless.......

Yep, let those wacko shooters have a semi-automatric rifle witrh a 150 ropund magazine. What harm could it do?

 

[Crepitus]

Any bets on what yesterday's shooter used?

I bet it was an AR style rifle with a large capacity magazine. The gold standard for mass shootings all over the USA.

Yeah, and if we got rid of the AR, mass shooters would stop killing people.

I agree, nutters are still gonna go nuts.

But they might not be able to kill as many at once.

Tell that to the VA Tech shooter

Why? Did he do a comparison?

 

[Crepitus]

Colorado judge strikes down AR-15 ban, and over 10 round magazine ban....good.

Any bets on what yesterday's shooter used?

I bet it was an AR style rifle with a large capacity magazine. The gold standard for mass shootings all over the USA.

and every single one was on the FBI's watch dog list, but they're to busy watching guys like me.

Why would they be watching you?

 

[daveman]

we lock up more nonviolent criminals than any other country.

And over 60% of people in state and country jails have not been convicted of any crime and that's because our arraignment and bail procedures need an overhaul.

Actually, Illinois just passed a law to overhaul bail procedures...

And the FOP screamed loudly when they did it.

Still doesn't solve the problem that it's way too easy for crooks to get guns.

How many laws do we need before criminals start obeying them?