Coal workers backed Trump Now worried about losing Obamacare

[Political Junky]

Losing their coverage for black lung disease.

These coal country voters backed Trump. Now they’re worried about losing Obamacare.

 

[HenryBHough]

Did we really need another thread on this?

Or is this just a feeble cry for attention, the first shot having been pretty much ignored?

 

[rightwinger]

Losing their coverage for black lung disease.

These coal country voters backed Trump. Now they’re worried about losing Obamacare.

You get what you pay for

Like Republicans say....let em die

 

[ScienceRocks]

Let them die! Let them get what they voted for...

You wanted it, you got it, Toyota!

 

[Kosh]

Coal miners are in a union and unions do not use Obamacare..

Fake news..

 

[S.J.]

BS. Leftist propaganda again.

 

[rightwinger]

Coal miners are in a union and unions do not use Obamacare..

Fake news..

The CNN segment features people who live in Eastern Kentucky coal country and backed Trump because he promised to bring back coal jobs. Now, however, they worry that a provision in the ACA that makes it easier for longtime coal miners with black lung disease to get disability benefits could get eliminated along with the law. That provision shifted the burden of proving that the disability was directly caused by work in the mines away from the victim. Those benefits include financial and medical benefits. Some benefits now also extend to the widows of miners who had black lung disease — or pneumoconiosis, a lung illness associated with inhalation of coal dust — after their husbands die. Other reporting has also confirmed widespread coal country worries about losing these protections.

 

[Kosh]

Coal miners are in a union and unions do not use Obamacare..

Fake news..

The CNN segment features people who live in Eastern Kentucky coal country and backed Trump because he promised to bring back coal jobs. Now, however, they worry that a provision in the ACA that makes it easier for longtime coal miners with black lung disease to get disability benefits could get eliminated along with the law. That provision shifted the burden of proving that the disability was directly caused by work in the mines away from the victim. Those benefits include financial and medical benefits. Some benefits now also extend to the widows of miners who had black lung disease — or pneumoconiosis, a lung illness associated with inhalation of coal dust — after their husbands die. Other reporting has also confirmed widespread coal country worries about losing these protections.

And the far left drone proves my point it is fake news..

Unions do not use Obamacare!

 

[candycorn]

The humorous part of the GOP opposition to the ACA is that they think the people they are going to deny insurance to will just sit at home and get sicker and sicker. They will show up at the County hospital and get free care from the taxpayers...INSTEAD of having insurance for themselves. This is probably why the average conserve-hate-ive will drink poison before holding their elected officials accountable. And it's funny too...what do we have; 20 threads celebrating the GOP domination of having 30+ states with a GOP House, Senate, and Governor!!! Yet when the hospitals and healthcare costs skyrocket in these states--they will blame the Democrats who hold no sway whatsoever!!!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Losing their coverage for black lung disease.

These coal country voters backed Trump. Now they’re worried about losing Obamacare.

There is no insurance coverage for black lung disease. You fell for another Democrat lie.

All black lung cases are paid from a trust and administered by a benefits act.

Black Lung Benefits Act of 1973 - Wikipedia

 

[Old Rocks]

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Department of Labor's Office of Workers' Compensation Programs today announced the final rule implementing amendments to the Black Lung Benefits Act passed by Congress in 2010. Commonly called the Byrd Amendments after their sponsor, the late Senator Robert C. Byrd, the amendments re-instate two provisions regarding coal miners' and survivors' entitlement to benefits that had been eliminated in 1981.

"Many miners disabled by black lung disease and their survivors will receive critical benefits as a result of the Byrd Amendments," said Gary A. Steinberg, acting director of OWCP. "The final rules implementing these vital provisions assist the coal-mining community by clarifying how the amendments operate."

The first amendment mandates a presumption of total disability or death caused by pneumoconiosis for coal miners who worked for at least 15 years in underground (or comparable surface) mining and who suffer or suffered from a totally disabling respiratory impairment. The second amendment provides automatic entitlement for eligible survivors of miners who were themselves entitled to receive benefits as a result of a lifetime claim.

The re-instated amendments are 30 United States Code 921(c)(4) and 30 U.S.C. 932(l); and they are contained in Section 1556 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and apply to claims filed after Jan. 1, 2005, that are pending on or after March 23, 2010.

The final rule addresses the automatic entitlement of certain survivors and the 15-year entitlement presumption as it applies to miners' and their survivors' claims. In addition, the rule eliminates several unnecessary or obsolete provisions in accordance with Executive Order 13563.

The final rule was published in the Federal Register, and it can be viewed at https://www.federalregister.gov/art...ack-lung-benefits-act-determining-coal-miners.

The mission of the Office of Workers' Compensation Programs is to protect the interests of workers who are injured or become ill on the job, their families and their employers. This mission is accomplished by: making timely, appropriate and accurate decisions on claims; providing prompt payment of benefits and helping injured workers return to gainful work as early as is feasible. The Division of Coal Mine Workers' Compensation administers claims filed under the Black Lung Benefits Act. This law provides compensation to coal miners who are totally disabled by pneumoconiosis arising out of coal mine employment, eligible survivors of miners whose death was attributable to or hastened by pneumoconiosis, and survivors of miners who were entitled to benefits at the time of their death. The BLBA also provides eligible miners with medical coverage for the treatment of lung diseases arising out of coal mine employment. For more information, visit http://www.dol.gov/owcp/dcmwc/.

OWCP News Release: US Department of Labor publishes final rule implementing the Byrd Amendments to Black Lung Benefits Act [09/25/2013]

Hmmmmmmmmm..........................................

 

[Kosh]

The humorous part of the GOP opposition to the ACA is that they think the people they are going to deny insurance to will just sit at home and get sicker and sicker. They will show up at the County hospital and get free care from the taxpayers...INSTEAD of having insurance for themselves. This is probably why the average conserve-hate-ive will drink poison before holding their elected officials accountable. And it's funny too...what do we have; 20 threads celebrating the GOP domination of having 30+ states with a GOP House, Senate, and Governor!!! Yet when the hospitals and healthcare costs skyrocket in these states--they will blame the Democrats who hold no sway whatsoever!!!

Another debunked far left religious dogma post!

United Mine Workers - Wikipedia

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The humorous part of the GOP opposition to the ACA is that they think the people they are going to deny insurance to will just sit at home and get sicker and sicker. They will show up at the County hospital and get free care from the taxpayers...INSTEAD of having insurance for themselves. This is probably why the average conserve-hate-ive will drink poison before holding their elected officials accountable. And it's funny too...what do we have; 20 threads celebrating the GOP domination of having 30+ states with a GOP House, Senate, and Governor!!! Yet when the hospitals and healthcare costs skyrocket in these states--they will blame the Democrats who hold no sway whatsoever!!!

The people who had no insurance except medicaid will still have medicaid. No change. The people that had insurance that they liked were forced to give it up for ocare. The great majority of people had insurance that they liked and could afford. Those people lost their insurance because the government considered it substandard. Those people were forced onto plans at twice the price with half the coverage.

 

[Kosh]

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Department of Labor's Office of Workers' Compensation Programs today announced the final rule implementing amendments to the Black Lung Benefits Act passed by Congress in 2010. Commonly called the Byrd Amendments after their sponsor, the late Senator Robert C. Byrd, the amendments re-instate two provisions regarding coal miners' and survivors' entitlement to benefits that had been eliminated in 1981.

"Many miners disabled by black lung disease and their survivors will receive critical benefits as a result of the Byrd Amendments," said Gary A. Steinberg, acting director of OWCP. "The final rules implementing these vital provisions assist the coal-mining community by clarifying how the amendments operate."

The first amendment mandates a presumption of total disability or death caused by pneumoconiosis for coal miners who worked for at least 15 years in underground (or comparable surface) mining and who suffer or suffered from a totally disabling respiratory impairment. The second amendment provides automatic entitlement for eligible survivors of miners who were themselves entitled to receive benefits as a result of a lifetime claim.

The re-instated amendments are 30 United States Code 921(c)(4) and 30 U.S.C. 932(l); and they are contained in Section 1556 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and apply to claims filed after Jan. 1, 2005, that are pending on or after March 23, 2010.

The final rule addresses the automatic entitlement of certain survivors and the 15-year entitlement presumption as it applies to miners' and their survivors' claims. In addition, the rule eliminates several unnecessary or obsolete provisions in accordance with Executive Order 13563.

The final rule was published in the Federal Register, and it can be viewed at https://www.federalregister.gov/art...ack-lung-benefits-act-determining-coal-miners.

The mission of the Office of Workers' Compensation Programs is to protect the interests of workers who are injured or become ill on the job, their families and their employers. This mission is accomplished by: making timely, appropriate and accurate decisions on claims; providing prompt payment of benefits and helping injured workers return to gainful work as early as is feasible. The Division of Coal Mine Workers' Compensation administers claims filed under the Black Lung Benefits Act. This law provides compensation to coal miners who are totally disabled by pneumoconiosis arising out of coal mine employment, eligible survivors of miners whose death was attributable to or hastened by pneumoconiosis, and survivors of miners who were entitled to benefits at the time of their death. The BLBA also provides eligible miners with medical coverage for the treatment of lung diseases arising out of coal mine employment. For more information, visit http://www.dol.gov/owcp/dcmwc/.

OWCP News Release: US Department of Labor publishes final rule implementing the Byrd Amendments to Black Lung Benefits Act [09/25/2013]

Hmmmmmmmmm..........................................

See unions do not use Obamacare!

Silly far left drones!

 

[candycorn]

The humorous part of the GOP opposition to the ACA is that they think the people they are going to deny insurance to will just sit at home and get sicker and sicker. They will show up at the County hospital and get free care from the taxpayers...INSTEAD of having insurance for themselves. This is probably why the average conserve-hate-ive will drink poison before holding their elected officials accountable. And it's funny too...what do we have; 20 threads celebrating the GOP domination of having 30+ states with a GOP House, Senate, and Governor!!! Yet when the hospitals and healthcare costs skyrocket in these states--they will blame the Democrats who hold no sway whatsoever!!!

The people who had no insurance except medicaid will still have medicaid. No change. The people that had insurance that they liked were forced to give it up for ocare. The great majority of people had insurance that they liked and could afford. Those people lost their insurance because the government considered it substandard. Those people were forced onto plans at twice the price with half the coverage.

Most didn't experience any such thing. I understand the anger of those that did.

 

[candycorn]

The humorous part of the GOP opposition to the ACA is that they think the people they are going to deny insurance to will just sit at home and get sicker and sicker. They will show up at the County hospital and get free care from the taxpayers...INSTEAD of having insurance for themselves. This is probably why the average conserve-hate-ive will drink poison before holding their elected officials accountable. And it's funny too...what do we have; 20 threads celebrating the GOP domination of having 30+ states with a GOP House, Senate, and Governor!!! Yet when the hospitals and healthcare costs skyrocket in these states--they will blame the Democrats who hold no sway whatsoever!!!

Another debunked far left religious dogma post!

United Mine Workers - Wikipedia

tl:dr:dc

 

[candycorn]

The humorous part of the GOP opposition to the ACA is that they think the people they are going to deny insurance to will just sit at home and get sicker and sicker. They will show up at the County hospital and get free care from the taxpayers...INSTEAD of having insurance for themselves. This is probably why the average conserve-hate-ive will drink poison before holding their elected officials accountable. And it's funny too...what do we have; 20 threads celebrating the GOP domination of having 30+ states with a GOP House, Senate, and Governor!!! Yet when the hospitals and healthcare costs skyrocket in these states--they will blame the Democrats who hold no sway whatsoever!!!

The people who had no insurance except medicaid will still have medicaid. No change. The people that had insurance that they liked were forced to give it up for ocare. The great majority of people had insurance that they liked and could afford. Those people lost their insurance because the government considered it substandard. Those people were forced onto plans at twice the price with half the coverage.

And those who had no insurance who just show up at County General when they get sick....what do you predict will happen to them when the GOP takes away their health care insurance?

 

[rdean]

Losing their coverage for black lung disease.

These coal country voters backed Trump. Now they’re worried about losing Obamacare.

There is no insurance coverage for black lung disease. You fell for another Democrat lie.

All black lung cases are paid from a trust and administered by a benefits act.

Black Lung Benefits Act of 1973 - Wikipedia

From your link:

Note: Benefits do not include Residence costs (room and board) for nursing homes or skilled nursing facilities.[5] Miners who become disabled to the point of needing the services of a nursing home or skilled nursing facilities will have to resort to their own insurance or private funds to pay for these services.

Payments are made by the operator of the mine most recently employing an affected worker or from the Black Lung Disability Trust Fund.[2] Payments and benefits are not considered taxable income.[6]

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Part of that is he onus of proof lies with the affected worker. That means the mine owner can drag this through court until the affected die (which of course Republicans cheer). The ACA changed that so the mine owner has to prove the affected didn't get Black Lung from their mine. Which of course is probably impossible.

So what is Black Lung?

Pneumoconiosis Symptoms, Causes and Risk Factors

Once the ACA is gone, then it goes back to the mine workers needing to prove they got Black Lung from the mine and not from exposure to heavy doses of dust or smoking. In other words, they are fucked and the GOP cheers and cheers and cheers..............

 

[Political Junky]

As I thought, most on the Right couldn't care less about the coal workers.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Did we really need another thread on this?

Or is this just a feeble cry for attention, the first shot having been pretty much ignored?

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