CNN reports that torture of terrorists advocate Tom Cotton will be Secretary Of Defense!

[Nosmo King]

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

We are not becoming like isis....just put on your safety pin and let the grown ups handle the monsters....they drown people in cages, they burn people alive they cut off heads and murder children...

We tilted people back and put water up their nose, and they gave up valuable information, including where bin laden was.....after they were waterboarded they dried off with a towel and had a nice meal.......isis doesn't do that....

Interrogation experts dispute that claim. After torture, including water boarding (which was one of the charges of war crimes leveled against the Japanese after World War II), actionable, and true intelligence is rarely obtained. After torture, I might assume responsibility to pay your mortgage, if you would just stop torturing me.

And your safety pin comment betrays a very shallow mind.

 

[Claudette]

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

We are not becoming like isis....just put on your safety pin and let the grown ups handle the monsters....they drown people in cages, they burn people alive they cut off heads and murder children...

We tilted people back and put water up their nose, and they gave up valuable information, including where bin laden was.....after they were waterboarded they dried off with a towel and had a nice meal.......isis doesn't do that....

I agree and only a moron would compare us to ISIS.

What an idiot.

 

[2aguy]

Waterboarding worked....on every trainee it was used on...

EXCLUSIVE: Waterboarding Too Dangerous, Internal DoD Memo Reveals

SERE stands for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape, and SERE schools exist across the military services, but the Joint Personnel Recovery Agency (JPRA) is considered the "Executive Agency" for all the SERE schools. The aim of SERE "Code of Conduct" training is to prepare US military personnel for possible capture and torture by an enemy that does not follow Geneva conventions guidelines.

The Clare memo stated, in part:

3. Area of Concern: The JPRA official stance is that the water board should not be used as a physical pressure during Level C SERE training.
This position is based on factors that have the potential to affect not only students but also the whole DoD SERE program.

The way the water board is most often employed, it leaves students psychologically defeated with no ability to resist under pressure. Once a student is taught that they can be beaten, and there is no way to resist, it is difficult to develop psychological hardiness.

None of the other schools use the water board that leaves the San Diego school as a standout.

So our best miltiary personel were beaten by being waterboarded........and it left no lasting physical damage...

 

[Nosmo King]

"General James "Mad Dog" Mattis, who is being considered for Secretary of Defense, was very impressive yesterday. A true General's General!" - Trump

so it might not be Cotton? CNN is wrong again!

Mattis was fired by obama for criticizing the Iran deal.

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

Thinking of it like amputation of a gangrenous limb.

Because torture is the American Way! Poor argument. Especially if you are at all interested in maintaining the veneer of a national morality.

 

[2aguy]

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

We are not becoming like isis....just put on your safety pin and let the grown ups handle the monsters....they drown people in cages, they burn people alive they cut off heads and murder children...

We tilted people back and put water up their nose, and they gave up valuable information, including where bin laden was.....after they were waterboarded they dried off with a towel and had a nice meal.......isis doesn't do that....

Interrogation experts dispute that claim. After torture, including water boarding (which was one of the charges of war crimes leveled against the Japanese after World War II), actionable, and true intelligence is rarely obtained. After torture, I might assume responsibility to pay your mortgage, if you would just stop torturing me.

And your safety pin comment betrays a very shallow mind.

The Japanese did not do the same thing our CIA did, that is another lie by the left....the Japanese put a hose down the throat of prisoners, filled their stomachs with water and then jumped on the stomach to force the water back out....that is not what the CIA did...

Your comment comparing what the Japanese did and what the CIA did shows you have no fucking clue what you are talking about....

 

[Nosmo King]

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

We are not becoming like isis....just put on your safety pin and let the grown ups handle the monsters....they drown people in cages, they burn people alive they cut off heads and murder children...

We tilted people back and put water up their nose, and they gave up valuable information, including where bin laden was.....after they were waterboarded they dried off with a towel and had a nice meal.......isis doesn't do that....

I agree and only a moron would compare us to ISIS.

What an idiot.

The use of torture lowers us to an unacceptable position. We call ISIS savages. Shouldn't we be a cut above?

 

[Claudette]

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

We are not becoming like isis....just put on your safety pin and let the grown ups handle the monsters....they drown people in cages, they burn people alive they cut off heads and murder children...

We tilted people back and put water up their nose, and they gave up valuable information, including where bin laden was.....after they were waterboarded they dried off with a towel and had a nice meal.......isis doesn't do that....

Interrogation experts dispute that claim. After torture, including water boarding (which was one of the charges of war crimes leveled against the Japanese after World War II), actionable, and true intelligence is rarely obtained. After torture, I might assume responsibility to pay your mortgage, if you would just stop torturing me.

And your safety pin comment betrays a very shallow mind.

The Japanese did not do the same thing our CIA did, that is another lie by the left....the Japanese put a hose down the throat of prisoners, filled their stomachs with water and then jumped on the stomach to force the water back out....that is not what the CIA did...

Your comment comparing what the Japanese did and what the CIA did shows you have no fucking clue what you are talking about....

I agree and he calls in torture. Don't know to many torturers out there who have a doctor standing by.

From what I've read water boarding was pretty damned successful and no one was hurt or damaged. Just had the shit scared out of them.

 

[LaDexter]

Waterboarding worked....on every trainee it was used on..

It worked for Cheney's BS lies to invade...

Why did we have a CIA Branch in Libya, source of Pan Am 103??

Because Zionism was calling the shots, and Gaddafy was Jewish.

Al Libi was 'boarded to claim Saddam and Osama were pals.

WORLD EXCLUSIVE: New Revelations About The Torture Of Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi | Andy Worthington

"Al-Libi’s time in Egypt, of course, is where the notorious lie about al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein was extracted, which, incidentally, ."



Torture "works" to get false confessions. That is what the DoD told Cheney. Cheney knew what he needed - lies to justify an invasion of Iraq.

 

[2aguy]

Here is an expert on Torture...actual, real live torture under the socialists in Vietnam....he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor........he states waterboarding...which they did to him in the Hanoi Hilton, is not torture.......

McCain’s fellow POWs support waterboarding

When I was researching my book, “Courting Disaster,” I interviewed many of them, including Col. Bud Day, who received our nation’s highest award for valor, the Medal of Honor, for his heroic escape from a North Vietnamese prison camp.

When Day was returned to the prison, his right arm was broken in three places and he had been shot in the hand and thigh during his capture. But he continued to resist interrogation and provide false information — suffering such excruciating torture that he became totally physically debilitated and unable to perform even the simplest task for himself. In short, Day is an expert on the subject of torture. Here is what he says about CIA waterboarding:

“I am a supporter of waterboarding. It is not torture. Torture is really hurting someone. Waterboarding is just scaring someone, with no long-term injurious effects. It is a scare tactic that works.”

I asked Day in an e-mail what he would say to the CIA officer who waterboarded Khalid Sheik Mohammed, if he had the chance to speak with him. Day replied immediately: “YOU DID THE RIGHT THING.”

And the other Congressional of Medal Awardee...also agrees......waterboarding is not torture.....

Like Day, Col. Leo Thorsness was awarded the Medal of Honor for extraordinary heroism during the Vietnam War. He experienced excruciating torture during his captivity — his back broken, his body wrenched apart. He says what the CIA did to al-Qaeda terrorists in its custody was not torture:

“To me, waterboarding is intensive interrogation. It is not torture. Torture involves extreme, brutal pain — breaking bones, passing out from pain, beatings so severe that blood spatters the walls . . . when you pop shoulders out of joints.. . . In my mind, there’s a difference, and in most POWs’ minds there’s a difference.. . . I would not hesitate a second to use ‘enhanced interrogation,’ including waterboarding, if it would save the lives of innocent people.”

And the most famous supporter of water boarding......

Another torture victim who supports waterboarding is Adm. Jeremiah Denton — the POW who famously winked the word “T-O-R-T-U-R-E” in Morse code during a North Vietnamese propaganda interview.

It was the first message to the outside world that American prisoners were being tortured. Denton later received the Navy Cross for this courageous and costly act of defiance, for which he paid dearly when his captors figured out what he had done. I asked Denton if he thought waterboarding was torture. He told me:

“No, I think it’s persuasive.. . . The big, monstrous difference here is that the gentlemen we are waterboarding are people who swore to kill Americans. They will wreak any kind of torture just for the hell of it on anybody.

When they are captured by the U.S., and we know or have reason to believe that they know of a subsequent event after 9/11, if you don’t interrogate them, more misery will take place.. . . Waterboarding is not an evil. Some of the things they did to us were torture. I passed out a dozen times from torture. We’re not exerting that kind of excruciation.”


So.....tell us that these men don't know what they are talking about......

 

[2aguy]

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

We are not becoming like isis....just put on your safety pin and let the grown ups handle the monsters....they drown people in cages, they burn people alive they cut off heads and murder children...

We tilted people back and put water up their nose, and they gave up valuable information, including where bin laden was.....after they were waterboarded they dried off with a towel and had a nice meal.......isis doesn't do that....

I agree and only a moron would compare us to ISIS.

What an idiot.

The use of torture lowers us to an unacceptable position. We call ISIS savages. Shouldn't we be a cut above?

We aren't using torture...we are waterboarding...that would leave no permanent damage......and no physical harm...

 

[ABikerSailor]

Waterboarding worked....on every trainee it was used on...

EXCLUSIVE: Waterboarding Too Dangerous, Internal DoD Memo Reveals

SERE stands for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape, and SERE schools exist across the military services, but the Joint Personnel Recovery Agency (JPRA) is considered the "Executive Agency" for all the SERE schools. The aim of SERE "Code of Conduct" training is to prepare US military personnel for possible capture and torture by an enemy that does not follow Geneva conventions guidelines.

The Clare memo stated, in part:

3. Area of Concern: The JPRA official stance is that the water board should not be used as a physical pressure during Level C SERE training.
This position is based on factors that have the potential to affect not only students but also the whole DoD SERE program.

The way the water board is most often employed, it leaves students psychologically defeated with no ability to resist under pressure. Once a student is taught that they can be beaten, and there is no way to resist, it is difficult to develop psychological hardiness.

None of the other schools use the water board that leaves the San Diego school as a standout.

So our best miltiary personel were beaten by being waterboarded........and it left no lasting physical damage...

It didn't leave any physical damage (maybe), but it DID leave psychological damage that made them less effective when they found they could be broken.

 

[Tom Horn]

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

Torture leaves a mark of some kind...enhanced interrogation works on the mind. They both work. When I need to know something fast, I'll hook up jumper-cables to the fucker's nuts and give the old field-radio a crank or two...nobody will lose their nuts over a secret.....nobody.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

If you are not at least as ruthless as your enemy, you will lose.

 

[Nosmo King]

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

If you are not at least as ruthless as your enemy, you will lose.

How on earth did we defeat the Fascists? They killed civilians by the mass grave full.

 

[owebo]

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

We are not becoming like isis....just put on your safety pin and let the grown ups handle the monsters....they drown people in cages, they burn people alive they cut off heads and murder children...

We tilted people back and put water up their nose, and they gave up valuable information, including where bin laden was.....after they were waterboarded they dried off with a towel and had a nice meal.......isis doesn't do that....

Interrogation experts dispute that claim. After torture, including water boarding (which was one of the charges of war crimes leveled against the Japanese after World War II), actionable, and true intelligence is rarely obtained. After torture, I might assume responsibility to pay your mortgage, if you would just stop torturing me.

And your safety pin comment betrays a very shallow mind.

Cotton is a great pick especially since he acknowledges all the tools available to him to make available to the enemy.....

By the way, where do you put your safety Pin?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Great news. Love the way Trump is torturing progressives already even before being sworn in.

 

[jknowgood]

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So they are animals, you can act like animals....

Way to go... Torture isn't a truly effective way of interrogation, it yields bad info as the person only wants you to stop and doesn't care what the truth is...

Why CIA interrogations report matters: Torture doesn't work and Americans need to know

This is your beloved Fox News telling you....

It got the Intel to get bin Laden .

 

[ColonelAngus]

not surprising, given that President Trump supports torturing those folks and Vice President Pence is friends with Secretary Cotton...

ANOTHER WIN FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION!!

GREAT PICK!!

When the liberals like his nominations, I will be concerned...like how Chelsea is concerned about her mother's drinking.

 

[whitehall]

The "rest of the story" as Paul Harvey used to say is that the democrat party and the liberal media redefined "torture" to be discomfort or embarrassment or religious intollerance. Waterboarding was in the U.S. Psy-Ops play book for decades during both republiccan and democrat administrations until the radical left decided to turn it into a political issue. As we used to say, more people drowned in Ted Kennedy's car than by waterboarding.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Yessss....waterboarding isn't near what they do to people not even close, they use torture, waterboarding isnt torture.

According to the Geneva Conventions, (you know, that agreement we have with a lot of other nations about the proper conduct on the battle field), waterboarding IS torture.

Matter of fact, Pol Pot used it quite effectively to garner false confessions from political dissidents.

ISIS is not part of the Geneva Convention, they behead captives, there are no rules in the war on terror, none.

So we should become like ISIS because that's the only way to preserve freedom?

Ya gotta burn the village in order to save the village, right?

If you are not at least as ruthless as your enemy, you will lose.

How on earth did we defeat the Fascists? They killed civilians by the mass grave full.

We killed Nazis, Blackshirts and Bushido Boys by the hundreds of thousands, and collateral damage was a marginal concern. It didn't hogtie us the way it does today.