Climate Change Brings Warmer Global Temps

[gipper]

Cool. This is a new doomsday cult prediction that I hadn't heard before. Can you tell us more?

No, it’s actually much older than the current doomsday cult of AGW, but you’ll never understand.

 

[mamooth]

No, it’s actually much older than the current doomsday cult of AGW, but you’ll never understand.

Since you say we're all going to die soon, will you give me all your stuff now?

If you won't, it will look like you're not serious about your doomsday prediction.

 

[gipper]

Since you say we're all going to die soon, will you give me all your stuff now?

If you won't, it will look like you're not serious about your doomsday prediction.

No. I need my stuff as me and mine plan to survive. We‘ll take all your stuff, as you’ll be dead wondering where did your AGW go.

 

[skookerasbil]

Here's the thing....

Voters don't care...which is why Congress never passes any legislation on climate change. People have waaaaay more pressing concerns. Only the climate OCD'S get angst...relatively few in the population.

 

[Crick]

"700,000 years ago (Climate Change) led to hotter, drier conditions in South Africa and h. heidelbergensis' evolutionary response to those changes eventually gave rise to Homo sapiens."

And we're still here in 2022. 700,000 years ago AOC would have said we only had twelve years left. Imagine that, Climate Change 700,000 years ago caused global temperatures to rise. Few cows were farting at the time, no trains, planes, or automobiles and almost no fossil fuels. No businesses spewing CO2 into the atmosphere. No nothing, and yet the Earth warmed and gave rise to Home sapiens and the spread of civilizations around the planet.

What point are you trying to make? That humans couldn't cause climate change? That warming is good for us?

Climate change in the past, with very few exceptions, has taken place at exceedingly slow rates. When it did not, it often caused mass extinctions. The climate change being brought about by human GHG emissions is happening at an exceedingly rapid pace; a pace which no non-technological species' adaptive evolution can match. Humans will do some adaptation but it will not be enough to prevent hugely negative consequences. Of course, what we could have done would have been to realize the gravity of the situation, admit and accept what sort of changes were required and actually make them. But far too many of us are lazy cowards and fools.

 

[Independent thinker]

What point are you trying to make? That humans couldn't cause climate change? That warming is good for us?

Climate change in the past, with very few exceptions, has taken place at exceedingly slow rates. When it did not, it often caused mass extinctions. The climate change being brought about by human GHG emissions is happening at an exceedingly rapid pace; a pace which no non-technological species' adaptive evolution can match. Humans will do some adaptation but it will not be enough to prevent hugely negative consequences. Of course, what we could have done would have been to realize the gravity of the situation, admit and accept what sort of changes were required and actually make them. But far too many of us are lazy cowards and fools.

To think that you can fight mother nature is totally ridiculous. You can't prove that warming temperatures today actually are a result of man and that it's not just a coincidence that the warming is happening coincidentally at the same time as CO2 emissions rise. In other words, since temps have risen on Earth before many times in the past (even before man), that natural cycle may well be happening again and that it is just a coincidence that it is happening at the same time as increased CO2 emissions.

In any event, the left won't even tell the truth to the public that if we did absolutely everything that they wanted to do, temps would still rise anyway. They always imply that if we did everything they wanted (which is virtually impossible), temps would fall. That is an outright untruth. Temps would STILL rise. Climate change isn't going to kill the whole planet anytime in the foreseeable future but one badly timed asteroid could all off us tomorrow. So, the left want us to save a planet by inconveniencing humans as much as possible, which is doomed anyway.

 

[Crick]

To think that you can fight mother nature is totally ridiculous. You can't prove that warming temperatures today actually are a result of man and that it's not just a coincidence that the warming is happening coincidentally at the same time as CO2 emissions rise.

First, as I have had to explain to dozens of AGW-deniers, there ARE NO PROOFS in the natural sciences. What we have is evidence. There is an enormous amount of evidence that the primary cause of the observed warming since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution is human GHG emissions. See the following data:

https://news.mit.edu/sites/default/files/styles/news_article__image_gallery/public/images/201003/20100310094520-2.png?itok=eODJcyjW

That you should think science was unable to show that warming was not coincidental indicates you have a very poor grasp or familiarity with the science here.

In other words, since temps have risen on Earth before many times in the past (even before man), that natural cycle may well be happening again and that it is just a coincidence that it is happening at the same time as increased CO2 emissions.

One of the factors that the historical data show is that increasing CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere will lead to increasing temperatures. And an enormous amount of study has gone into the natural cycles that have affected past climate and science has been clearly able to tell whether or not and to what extent similar factors are affecting climate today. You seem to be pleading selective ignorance: that we know enough of the distant past to tell that non-human factors have affected climate but unable to tell whether or not they are affecting the present climate. I'm sorry but that's just irrational ignorance.

In any event, the left won't even tell the truth to the public that if we did absolutely everything that they wanted to do, temps would still rise anyway. They always imply that if we did everything they wanted (which is virtually impossible), temps would fall. That is an outright untruth. Temps would STILL rise. Climate change isn't going to kill the whole planet anytime in the foreseeable future but one badly timed asteroid could all off us tomorrow. So, the left want us to save a planet by inconveniencing humans as much as possible, which is doomed anyway.

The reason you know that temperatures will continue to increase for some time is that you read it in mainstream science sources. You equating science with the left is complimentary but unfounded. The politicization of this topic is one of the stupidest things ever done. The bullshit you've been fed did not originate with conservatives such as yourself. It originated with the fossil fuel industry for whom action to end AGW is an existential threat. This isn't about politics, its about money.

 

[skookerasbil]

First, as I have had to explain to dozens of AGW-deniers, there ARE NO PROOFS in the natural sciences. What we have is evidence. There is an enormous amount of evidence that the primary cause of the observed warming since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution is human GHG emissions. See the following data:
View attachment 641288

https://news.mit.edu/sites/default/files/styles/news_article__image_gallery/public/images/201003/20100310094520-2.png?itok=eODJcyjW

That you should think science was unable to show that warming was not coincidental indicates you have a very poor grasp or familiarity with the science here.



One of the factors that the historical data show is that increasing CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere will lead to increasing temperatures. And an enormous amount of study has gone into the natural cycles that have affected past climate and science has been clearly able to tell whether or not and to what extent similar factors are affecting climate today. You seem to be pleading selective ignorance: that we know enough of the distant past to tell that non-human factors have affected climate but unable to tell whether or not they are affecting the present climate. I'm sorry but that's just irrational ignorance.




The reason you know that temperatures will continue to increase for some time is that you read it in mainstream science sources. You equating science with the left is complimentary but unfounded. The politicization of this topic is one of the stupidest things ever done. The bullshit you've been fed did not originate with conservatives such as yourself. It originated with the fossil fuel industry for whom action to end AGW is an existential threat. This isn't about politics, its about money.

Lol....it is about the money. He gets something right. Which dictates the politics....Drrrrr

Who is is exactly why energy policy-makers don't take AGW seriously.

Which means the "science" is not mattering....and never will.

Indeed, Godfather 2 paints the grim reality for the AGW contingent, thus, the unicorn chaser moniker.

 

[badbob85037]

"700,000 years ago (Climate Change) led to hotter, drier conditions in South Africa and h. heidelbergensis' evolutionary response to those changes eventually gave rise to Homo sapiens."

And we're still here in 2022. 700,000 years ago AOC would have said we only had twelve years left. Imagine that, Climate Change 700,000 years ago caused global temperatures to rise. Few cows were farting at the time, no trains, planes, or automobiles and almost no fossil fuels. No businesses spewing CO2 into the atmosphere. No nothing, and yet the Earth warmed and gave rise to Home sapiens and the spread of civilizations around the planet.

Supercomputer simulations show climate change’s role in early human migration

A research team from South Korea's Pusan National University, revealed research Wednesday that suggests a link between modern humanity's evolution and changes in prehistoric weather.

www.yahoo.com

If we had followed Algore we would have all drown by now or grown gills. Some people are stupid then we have a majority that are real stupid. In this country we call them democRats. That's it in a nut shell, all you need to know. So put out all the lame brain graphs you want. I live in the desert and I haven't seen a 125 degree day in 10 years. but I saw hail stones as big as golf balls 3 years ago in Phoenix. So pull your head out of that dark and smelly place and for once in your life go by what you see and not what you are told. Unless you are a sheep.

 

[Independent thinker]

First, as I have had to explain to dozens of AGW-deniers, there ARE NO PROOFS in the natural sciences. What we have is evidence. There is an enormous amount of evidence that the primary cause of the observed warming since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution is human GHG emissions. See the following data:
View attachment 641288

https://news.mit.edu/sites/default/files/styles/news_article__image_gallery/public/images/201003/20100310094520-2.png?itok=eODJcyjW

That you should think science was unable to show that warming was not coincidental indicates you have a very poor grasp or familiarity with the science here.



One of the factors that the historical data show is that increasing CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere will lead to increasing temperatures. And an enormous amount of study has gone into the natural cycles that have affected past climate and science has been clearly able to tell whether or not and to what extent similar factors are affecting climate today. You seem to be pleading selective ignorance: that we know enough of the distant past to tell that non-human factors have affected climate but unable to tell whether or not they are affecting the present climate. I'm sorry but that's just irrational ignorance.




The reason you know that temperatures will continue to increase for some time is that you read it in mainstream science sources. You equating science with the left is complimentary but unfounded. The politicization of this topic is one of the stupidest things ever done. The bullshit you've been fed did not originate with conservatives such as yourself. It originated with the fossil fuel industry for whom action to end AGW is an existential threat. This isn't about politics, its about money.

There is no evidence that this particular period of global warming is caused by man, other than you connecting the dots the way you want to in order to prove your point. The Earth has warmed before man was even here and will have periods of warming no matter what happens on the planet. It's called mother nature and the left still refuse to admit that if we did everything they wanted, temps will still rise. Why is that so hard to admit?

 

[Crick]

What the **** are you talking about? Of COURSE there is evidence that man is responsible for the warming. You seem to think science runs on guesswork. You need to go back to the 7th grade and bone up dude. The sun is closely observed. The orbital parameters of the planet are closely observed. Incoming and outgoing radiation are closely observed. The absorption characteristics of the atmosphere are closely observed. There is no debate among scientists as to why the Earth has been getting warmer. None. That you think there is, is simply evidence of your ignorance on the topic.

As I already pointed out, the only reason you're aware that the Earth would keep getting warmer for some period of time after GHG emissions were completely stopped is because you read it in mainstream ("leftist" in your lingo) science. And, since you seem simple enough to have missed this point, the sooner we stop putting GHGs into the atmosphere, the sooner the warming WILL stop. The reason that the world will keep getting warmer for some time after we stop putting GHGs into the atmosphere is that it will take somewhere between 300 and 1,000 years for all that excess CO2 to leave the Earth's atmosphere. Of course it will be shrinking all that while. The rate of warming will slow and eventually stop. And then we might even cool off. But your grandchildren's granchildren would be lucky to see it.

 

[ding]

What the **** are you talking about? Of COURSE there is evidence that man is responsible for the warming. You seem to think science runs on guesswork. You need to go back to the 7th grade and bone up dude. The sun is closely observed. The orbital parameters of the planet are closely observed. Incoming and outgoing radiation are closely observed. The absorption characteristics of the atmosphere are closely observed. There is no debate among scientists as to why the Earth has been getting warmer. None. That you think there is, is simply evidence of your ignorance on the topic.

As I already pointed out, the only reason you're aware that the Earth would keep getting warmer for some period of time after GHG emissions were completely stopped is because you read it in mainstream ("leftist" in your lingo) science. And, since you seem simple enough to have missed this point, the sooner we stop putting GHGs into the atmosphere, the sooner the warming WILL stop. The reason that the world will keep getting warmer for some time after we stop putting GHGs into the atmosphere is that it will take somewhere between 300 and 1,000 years for all that excess CO2 to leave the Earth's atmosphere. Of course it will be shrinking all that while. The rate of warming will slow and eventually stop. And then we might even cool off. But your grandchildren's granchildren would be lucky to see it.

Scientists reach opposite conclusions on the cause of the recent warming trend depending upon which datasets they use.

 

[Crick]

What the **** are you talking about? Of COURSE there is evidence that man is responsible for the warming. You seem to think science runs on guesswork. You need to go back to the 7th grade and bone up dude. The sun is closely observed. The orbital parameters of the planet are closely observed. Incoming and outgoing radiation are closely observed. The absorption characteristics of the atmosphere are closely observed. There is no debate among scientists as to why the Earth has been getting warmer. None. That you think there is, is simply evidence of your ignorance on the topic.

As I already pointed out, the only reason you're aware that the Earth would keep getting warmer for some period of time after GHG emissions were completely stopped is because you read it in mainstream ("leftist" in your lingo) science. And, since you seem simple enough to have missed this point, the sooner we stop putting GHGs into the atmosphere, the sooner the warming WILL stop. The reason that the world will keep getting warmer for some time after we stop putting GHGs into the atmosphere is that it will take somewhere between 300 and 1,000 years for all that excess CO2 to leave the Earth's atmosphere. Of course it will be shrinking all that while. The rate of warming will slow and eventually stop. And then we might even cool off. But your grandchildren's granchildren would be lucky to see it.

Let me correct that just a bit.

Your grandchildren's grandchildren WILL be lucky to see it.

 

[ding]

Let me correct that just a bit.

Your grandchildren's grandchildren WILL be lucky to see it.

Naw... within 30 years everything you believe will be proven wrong by colder temperatures and you'll be arguing you knew it all along.

 

[Crick]

Naw... within 30 years everything you believe will be proven wrong by colder temperatures and you'll be arguing you knew it all along.

Feel free to address my children as I won't be around in 30 years. But try not to hold it against them if they believe YOU will have been proven wrong by higher temperatures and are in some part responsible for the misery of their lives and the lives of everyone they know.

The worst that can happen if I (and all the world's scientists) are wrong is that we will have spent a lot of money making the world a nicer place. The worst that can happen if YOU'RE wrong is the sixth mass extinction and the end of the human species.

 

[jc456]

Evolution is dumber than shit.

You believe a prokaryote evolved into a eukaryote some 3 billion years ago, but only once ... never again. Yet evolution is all about randomness of very large probabilities. So shouldn't that very basic precursor to all other life happen over and over again? Many times? To be probable enough to happen at all? Once in 3 billion years is so improbable that it's impossible (statistical anomalies of orders of 10^60th power or greater are deemed impossible).

But let's not stop there.

You're telling me that humans, with our big brains, took 600,000 out of 700,000 years to figure out how to:

• Start a fire
• Make a clay pot
• Make clothes

You're dumber than shit.

Ohh and extra credit for dumbshits.

All living proteins are right handed. Left handed proteins are toxic and will kill you.

Figure that one out if proteins are supposed to be naturally created by accidental lightning strikes of tars or some dumb shit.

DNA tests prove Darwin Was Wrong - Ape DNA very different from human DNA - Laws of Genetics Contradicts Ape to Human Evolution

Recent Scientific Discoveries Prove Apes Could Not Have Evolved Into Humans

darwinconspiracy.com

 

[ding]

all the world's scientists)

Really? All of the world's scientists?

 

[ding]

we will have spent a lot of money making the world a nicer place.

You got the first part right. Are you sure about the second part?

 

[ding]

The worst that can happen if YOU'RE wrong is the sixth mass extinction and the end of the human species.

Really? How so? Because even Hollywood hasn't figured out how to over dramatize it as much as you have. The closest they could come was to dramatize the earth freezing.

 

[Redfish]

Check it out, we've got some classic denier retardation here making yet another appearance.

"DERP! DERP! DERP! Climate change happened naturally in the past, so humans can't change climate! DERRRRRRRRRP!"

That's the same logic as saying "Forest fires used to always be natural, so humans can't cause forest fires."

It's staggeringly stupid logic to embrace, therefore every denier embraces it. That cult self-selects for stupidity. If you're not a moron, you get ejected from the cult.

humans may cause pollution, but there is zero proven connection between human caused pollution and the climate of planet earth. the lib media is lying to you, the lib college profs are lying to you. the prophet algore is lying to you, ancient Kerry is lying to you, obozo is lying to you, senile joe is lying to you, cameltoe harris is too stupid to lie so she just parrots other lies. Earth's climate is controlled by the sun and only the sun.