The Whole Biden EV Auto Environmental Thing Is Dying

[BULLDOG]

Thank you for admitting you don't understand anything.

That was a refreshing admission, good on you!



Meanwhile you called these charts:

"The typically stupid warmist/alarmist look its is warming! chart that is proof of CO2 driving it. when not a shred of evidence is posted for it, that is how stupid the remaining climate cultists is down to these days.

They have nothing for it.

NO Hotspot exist that was a cornerstone prediction of the AGW hypothesis.

NO Positive Feedback Loop exist that was a cornerstone of the AGW hypothesis.

They were formulated 35 years ago and still not found today this means the AGW is a massive failure."

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You are so miserable at this, YOU a person who shows ZERO debate skills and make utter fools of themselves in public.

So you are dumb as a rock and like to call me names. You are an ideal cult member.

 

[Sunsettommy]

So you are dumb as a rock and like to call me names. You are an ideal cult member.

I call you names because you offer NOTHING while I gave you link to the NOAA you stupidly brushed off, written by scientists that make YOU anti science.

On ignore you are as you are too stupid and a proven science illiterate to bother with anymore.

Goodbye.

 

[BULLDOG]

I call you names because you offer NOTHING while I gave you link to the NOAA you stupidly brushed off, written by scientists that make YOU anti science.

On ignore you are as you are too stupid and a proven science illiterate to bother with anymore.

Goodbye.

If i would have know before, it would have saved us both some time.

 

[toobfreak]

NO Hotspot exist that was a cornerstone prediction of the AGW hypothesis.
NO Positive Feedback Loop exist that was a cornerstone of the AGW hypothesis.

Simpler than that Tommy is the fact that, what was it, 10-15 years ago, a bunch of climatologists in Europe who were big on climate change were all busted--- someone leaked their emails between themselves where they admitted they were and had been fudging the data picking only that supporting their claims while throwing out all of the rest.

End of story.

No need for further discussion.

If the dire fears of these people were legit, they would not need to present falsified and skewed data.

 

[EMH]

CO2 FRAUD was fraud from the start. They knew what they were doing, lying about Urban Heat Island Effect and blaming CO2 for it..

FUDGE FUDGE FUDGE....

 

[Sunsettommy]

Simpler than that Tommy is the fact that, what was it, 10-15 years ago, a bunch of climatologists in Europe who were big on climate change were all busted--- someone leaked their emails between themselves where they admitted they were and had been fudging the data picking only that supporting their claims while throwing out all of the rest.

End of story.

No need for further discussion.

If the dire fears of these people were legit, they would not need to present falsified and skewed data.

My way puts them on the spot since they are the cornerstone of the AGW fantasy, when they can't address it they are defeated what you brought up is indeed a concern but many will just ignore or brush it off as it doesn't pertain directly to the science issue which is political.

 

[BULLDOG]

Simpler than that Tommy is the fact that, what was it, 10-15 years ago, a bunch of climatologists in Europe who were big on climate change were all busted--- someone leaked their emails between themselves where they admitted they were and had been fudging the data picking only that supporting their claims while throwing out all of the rest.

End of story.

No need for further discussion.

If the dire fears of these people were legit, they would not need to present falsified and skewed data.

A few unethical scientists 10 or 15 years ago didn't discredit the work done by thousands of climate scientists before or after them.

 

[EMH]

A few unethical scientists 10 or 15 years ago didn't discredit the work done by thousands of climate scientists before or after them.

You seem to think that there is some sort of "number of climate scientists" that equals truth.

If 5 "climate scientists" fudge data and lie, that's not enough, but if "thousands" do, that's proof.

Science is really not about parroting. The only thing parroting has ever proven is that the individual doing the parroting has


A BEAK AND A BIRDBRAIN

 

[EMH]

My way puts them on the spot

Not when you accept "warming" that does not exist, no sir, you play right into their hands...

 

[BULLDOG]

You seem to think that there is some sort of "number of climate scientists" that equals truth.

If 5 "climate scientists" fudge data and lie, that's not enough, but if "thousands" do, that's proof.

Science is really not about parroting. The only thing parroting has ever proven is that the individual doing the parroting has


A BEAK AND A BIRDBRAIN

Even 1000 being caught lying about their work (only a handful have been caught), that still wouldn't discredit the work of thousands of legitimate climate

 

[EMH]

Even 1000 being caught lying about their work (only a handful have been caught), that still wouldn't discredit the work of thousands of legitimate climate

LMFAO!!!

Name ONE SINGLE "legitimate climate scientist"

ONE

WHO CAN ANSWER BASIC CLIMATE QUESTIONS FOR US....

Thread 'Any honest media person with the courage to actually ask climate questions?'

Feb 12, 2024

Apparently not.

Not on Faux

Not on RAV or OANN


What questions will the media never ask?


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?



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Start the Jeopardy! music...

 

[Old Rocks]

You seem to think that there is some sort of "number of climate scientists" that equals truth.

If 5 "climate scientists" fudge data and lie, that's not enough, but if "thousands" do, that's proof.

Science is really not about parroting. The only thing parroting has ever proven is that the individual doing the parroting has


A BEAK AND A BIRDBRAIN

So what you are saying is that there is a planet wide conspiracy among scientists to lie to the public about global warming and the resultant climate change. And with all these millions of scientists in on this conspiracy, not one has revealed who is behind it. Lordy, are you ever one gullible fool. Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University in the world has policy statements that AGW is real and a clear and present danger. On the other side we have a few scientists that have prostituted their credentials for fossil fuel corporation money.

Now dumb ass, were you intelligent enough to go to Google Scholar, and look up the articles in peer reviewed scientific journals you would find thousand of articles showing how many different types of evidence show we are rapidly warming.

 

[Old Rocks]

LMFAO!!!

Name ONE SINGLE "legitimate climate scientist"

ONE

WHO CAN ANSWER BASIC CLIMATE QUESTIONS FOR US....

Thread 'Any honest media person with the courage to actually ask climate questions?'

Feb 12, 2024

Apparently not.

Not on Faux

Not on RAV or OANN


What questions will the media never ask?


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?



The Co2 Fraud is bilking America out of $200 billion per...

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Start the Jeopardy! music...

What a damned dummy you be.

1. Because one is land surrounded by water and the other is water surrounded by land.

2.
During the last ice age, glaciers in Alaska, including those south of the Arctic Circle, accumulated snow and grew to tremendous sizes, spilling out of mountain ranges and into adjacent lowlands. These glaciers left behind signs of their former selves, such as moraines, which are piles of glacial debris collected, transported, and deposited by glaciers. Moraines are easily identifiable features that can provide valuable information about past glacier changes and climate conditions.

USGS.gov

The study of moraines in Alaska, such as the North Swift River Valley of the Revelation Mountains, offers insights into the timing and rate of glacier change during the last ice age. These moraines can be dated to provide a timeline of glacial history and are crucial for understanding the impact of climate change on glaciers.

USGS.gov

Interior Alaska, despite its latitude, was not glaciated during the last ice age due to a combination of factors, including a warmer climate and the presence of the Bering Land Bridge, which kept the region relatively dry and less snow-covered. This unique climate allowed for the preservation of a green landscape in the interior, contrasting with the ice-covered conditions of the surrounding regions.

National Park Service

The glacial history of Alaska is documented through various geological records, including the presence of ancient rock formations and the study of glacial deposits. These records help scientists reconstruct the past and understand the geological and climatic conditions that shaped Alaska during the last ice age.

National Park Service

USGS.gov
Was all of Alaska covered by glaciers during the Pleistocene Ice Age ...


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3. Because it is not in the 1940's. Highest number for hurricanes in the Atlantic in the 1040's was 8 in 1944. In 2005, we had 14, and in 2020, 14. In fact, from 2000 to 2024, we had 12 years that matched or exceeded the highest number of any year in the 1940's.

ATLANTIC HURRICANE NUMBERS BY YEAR

4. Damn, are you blind? The rise of the King Tides are very evident to the people living on the East coast. Areas that never used to get water on them now getting water;

1. King tides are natural. They’ve always been higher than usual this time of year. But scientists agree they’re also supercharged by human-caused climate change, which has sent sea levels climbing in recent decades. Compared to three decades ago, the sea is about eight inches higher.
   

   King tides in South Florida: Getting worse and a sign of sea ... - Yah…​

   
   
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   5. It did not do that. As you can see, the ice cover today on Greenland covers a far smaller area than it did at the depths of the last ice age;​

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[EMH]

among scientists

The "climate scientists" are not scientists, they do not practice science, their taxpayer funded job is to take data showing no warming and fudging it to "show warming" that does not exist.

how many different types of evidence show we are rapidly warming

There is NO EVIDENCE, because FUDGED FRAUD is not evidence, it is FRAUD.


You cannot refute one word EMH posts, and neither can any of your pathetic "climate scientists."

 

[EMH]

Because one is land surrounded by water and the other is water surrounded by land.

Thanks for CONFESSING that THE AMOUNT OF ICE ON EARTH has 100% to do with WHERE LAND IS and NOTHING TO DO WITH CO2.

EMH 100% VALIDATED, CO2 FRAUD REFUTED....



2. you did not answer 2, you simply asked Google and cut and pasted long winded bullshit that does not answer the question.

Greenland is IN ICE AGE because it is within 600 miles to the pole. Alaska is not in ice age because it is outside of 600 miles to the pole....

Can anyone notice a DIFFERENCE between 700k cubic miles of ice and a few hundred???


CONTINENT SPECIFIC ICE AGE BURIED UNDER ICE AGE GLACIER

NOT ICE AGE = ALASKA

Highest number for hurricanes in the Atlantic in the 1040's was 8 in 1944. In 2005, we had 14

3. an intentional distortion of a time period, actually 1940s, where there were NO SATELLITES to see all the storms that did not hit land. The ones that hit land are the apples to apples comp, and that ACTUAL DATA complete refutes any claim of an increase in canes, and hence proves NO OCEAN WARMING as well....

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

4. the question on 4 was to show us a PHOTO of "ocean rise" and they cannot do that, fail

5. CO2 FRAUD does not have the correct definition of ice age. The Greenland ice age started 1-2 million years ago, at a time when North America had at least 5 million cubic miles of ice, almost all of which is now gone. GREENLAND FROZE while NORTH AMERICA THAWED and that TRUTH 100% destroys any claim CO2 is the cause of any of it...

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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Thread 'How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?'

May 15, 2023

This is where the climate debate is now stuck.

Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today.

Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very "Dennis Quaid" approach to ice ages - they are lightning fast, quick, and agile. They come and go really fast.

Since 2010, Milankovitch has replaced "North American Ice Age" with the claim that the ice on Chicago recently that was 2.5 miles thick was only 75k years old.

Really....

My side, which is...

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So Old Rocks got 1 out of 5 right, and by getting 1 right she confessed that CO2 has nothing to do with the amount of ice on planet Earth...

 

[Sunsettommy]

So what you are saying is that there is a planet wide conspiracy among scientists to lie to the public about global warming and the resultant climate change. And with all these millions of scientists in on this conspiracy, not one has revealed who is behind it. Lordy, are you ever one gullible fool. Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University in the world has policy statements that AGW is real and a clear and present danger. On the other side we have a few scientists that have prostituted their credentials for fossil fuel corporation money.

Now dumb ass, were you intelligent enough to go to Google Scholar, and look up the articles in peer reviewed scientific journals you would find thousand of articles showing how many different types of evidence show we are rapidly warming.

No most of them are not lying they simply fall in line if they want to keep their influence and the government cash flow uninterrupted.

Anyone following the consensus pablum is a confirmed science illiterate.

 

[EMH]

most of them are not lying

um, YES THEY ARE LYING....


Everyone involved as a "climate scientist" is 100% fully aware the whole thing is bullshit, and has been all along. From the beginning in 1988, the "climate scientists" pushed "studies" and then hid the actual data, fighting in court to keep it hidden, because the data showed NO WARMING and the study claimed "warming."

Over and over and over.


Gore, Hansen, and Mann were all very young during the 1970s Global Cooling "scare," and when they looked over the data they found Urban Heat Island Effect, that as urban areas grow, they warm right there on the surface, so just keep measuring temps from the surface of growing urban areas and presto, you have "warming" you can blame on whatever.

THAT is the only warming in the data. NOTHING else is warming. There has been ice growth every year CO2 FRAUD has claimed otherwise. No breakout in canes. No ocean rise. NOTHING....

 

[Old Rocks]

um, YES THEY ARE LYING....


Everyone involved as a "climate scientist" is 100% fully aware the whole thing is bullshit, and has been all along. From the beginning in 1988, the "climate scientists" pushed "studies" and then hid the actual data, fighting in court to keep it hidden, because the data showed NO WARMING and the study claimed "warming."

Over and over and over.


Gore, Hansen, and Mann were all very young during the 1970s Global Cooling "scare," and when they looked over the data they found Urban Heat Island Effect, that as urban areas grow, they warm right there on the surface, so just keep measuring temps from the surface of growing urban areas and presto, you have "warming" you can blame on whatever.

THAT is the only warming in the data. NOTHING else is warming. There has been ice growth every year CO2 FRAUD has claimed otherwise. No breakout in canes. No ocean rise. NOTHING....

Ah well, another flap yapper that thinks that just flapping his idiot yap will actually change the evidence. LOL Sad to see such profound and abysmal ignorance in another human being, but it is what it is.

 

[Old Rocks]

No most of them are not lying they simply fall in line if they want to keep their influence and the government cash flow uninterrupted.

Anyone following the consensus pablum is a confirmed science illiterate.

Consensus is created in real science when the evidence becomes irrefutable. And the evidence for a changing climate created by the warming of the atmosphere and ocean by the addition of manmade GHG's is now irrefutable. Of course the scientifically ignorant are going to deny this, the same as they deny that vaccines have been very beneficial. Ah well, fools and mentally deficient we always have with us, objects of pity more than scorn.

 

[EMH]

Ah well, another flap yapper that thinks that just flapping his idiot yap will actually change the evidence. LOL Sad to see such profound and abysmal ignorance in another human being, but it is what it is.

You got TORCHED and you are too much of a chosen COWARD to admit.