Zone1 Christendom's Trinity - Where Did It Come From?

[kjw47]

Your scholars who falsely prophesied the end of the world 5 times now changed the Word of God in the Bible to fit the other lies they teach you. I and others have given you several scriptures to prove you changed the doctrine. Shame on you.

Your prophet made many bad predictions-was he a false prophet or was it error? Its the same in both cases--What do you say?

 

[Alter2Ego]

Cougarbear:

That's incorrect. At John 10:34, Jesus was simply quoting what Jehovah said at Psalm 82:6. Notice the quotation below from a Trinitarian Bible translation.

"Jesus replied, “It is written in your own Scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people, ‘I say, you are gods!’ (John 10:34 -- New Living Translation)

Your translation to hide the fact that he said I SAID, Ye are gods, and children of the most high. Shame on JWs. You guys did that because every time you'd run into a Mormon missionary, they would blow you away...

What are you talking about, Cougarbear? I quoted from New Living Translation. That's a Trinitarian Bible and has nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses. Don't believe me? Go look it up "New Living Translation" on the Internet, and you will see who the publisher is.

Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

Cougarbear:

You know perfectly well that Jesus is the Son and that Jehovah is the Father.

In fact, I challenge you to go online and look up the name Jehovah? Do that, and then come back and repeat that nonsense that I bolded above where you falsely claimed "Jehovah is not the Father. Jehovah is the Son."

I will wait.


Alter2Ego

Your scholars who falsely prophesied the end of the world 5 times now changed the Word of God in the Bible to fit the other lies they teach you. I and others have given you several scriptures to prove you changed the doctrine. Shame on you.

Cougarbear:

I gave you a challenge. You're project is to look up the name Jehovah on the Internet in order to prove that Jehovah is the son; remember?

Stop stalling.


Alter2Ego

 

[Cougarbear]

Your prophet made many bad predictions-was he a false prophet or was it error? Its the same in both cases--What do you say?

What predictions? His only real prophecy was what in in the Doctrine and Covenants 87 about the Civil War. Anything else that isn't in our standard works is just opinions. As with prophets of OT and NT, there is always an out by saying if the people don't repent, this is what will happen. Your prophet gave a specific date and time that passed by. Your prophet gave excuses and kept kicking the can down the road, changing the words in the Bible, to attempt to create a new religion and depose Jesus Christ of his Godhead position as the Lord God of Israel.

 

[Cougarbear]

What are you talking about, Cougarbear? I quoted from New Living Translation. That's a Trinitarian Bible and has nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses. Don't believe me? Go look it up "New Living Translation" on the Internet, and you will see who the publisher is.

Alter2Ego

The New Living Translation? LOL! The New? We don't need the New Living Translation. All others have it correct. This came out of the work of 90 scholars in 1996 who apposed the LDS Church doctrine that we can become heirs to our Father's Kingdom and even continue on to become a god of our own universes. As JW's they had to butcher the meaning by re-translating and re-translating. Uggg! Along with the KJV, the NIV and the Catholic Bibles. It cracks me up that it's even in your JW Bible! And, you use the NLT Bible? LOL! From the JW Bible, verse 34 is an answer to verse 33, "The Jews answered him: "We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy, for you, although being a man, make yourself a god." Jesus answered that specific statement by reminding them "I said: You are gods?" Going back to Psalms 82, there is more after he said, "Ye are gods." He then says, but children of the Most High God. Meaning that we are gods in embryo learning the knowledge to become a god. Celestial glory (1Cor. 15:41-44)

 

[Cougarbear]

Cougarbear:

I gave you a challenge. You're project is to look up the name Jehovah on the Internet in order to prove that Jehovah is the son; remember?

Stop stalling.


Alter2Ego

I've already done it many times. Jesus in John 10:34 refers to what he stated to the people in Psalms 82:6. He said they have it in their scriptures of what He said to them about a 1000 years earlier, "I told you that ye are gods." The people didn't believe him in 1000BC and again didn't believe him while he was preaching in 33AD. And, most people aren't believing Him again today. You do know what the transitive or substitution property in algebra is? Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus is Jehovah based on the transitive property above. Jehovah is the Son of God. Stop being like the naysayers of old. Use that brain God gave you to logically reason for a change.
Also if you would bother googling yourself, how many times in the Bible does it say Jesus is the Son of God, it's 76 times, 65 by Jesus himself. Jehovah and Jesus both state they are "I am." by name. Logic says Jesus is Jehovah, the Son of God.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Your scholars who falsely prophesied the end of the world 5 times now changed the Word of God in the Bible to fit the other lies they teach you. I and others have given you several scriptures to prove you changed the doctrine. Shame on you.

Cougarbear:

You are confused. Jehovah's Witnesses have never prophesied anything. Only Jehovah, the Father, has the ability to accurately prophecy.

What you are referring to when you claim the end of the world was "prophesied" five times by Jehovah's people was their attempt at pinpointing when Satan's wicked system would end, based upon prophecy found in God's inspired word, the Judeo-Christian Bible.

Attempting to pinpoint when an event will occur--when the event is actually prophesied in the Bible--is a far cry from prophesying the event.

Compare that miscalculation by Jehovah's servants to the false claims made by Christendom's religious "leaders" about a 3-in-1 god. That false claim about a trinity god has had millions of Christendom's members worshipping a non-existent trinity god for over 2,000 years. Never mind that there is not one single verse of scripture in the Bible in support of a trinity god.

And let's not forget the long string of lies from the "leaders" within Christendom regarding the condition of the dead, including Christendom's version of Dante's fictional hell where dead people can literally feel the pain from burning flames for all eternity.


Compare the lies from Christendom's religious "leaders" -- none of which is supported by scripture -- against the miscalculation by Jehovah's people regarding the exact date with Satan's system will end, and then come back and tell me with a straight face that Christendom's lies are not harmful whereas the miscalculation of when Satan's system will end did not harm anyone who truly loves Jehovah.


Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

I've already done it many times. Jesus in John 10:34 refers to what he stated to the people in Psalms 82:6. He said they have it in their scriptures of what He said to them about a 1000 years earlier, "I told you that ye are gods." The people didn't believe him in 1000BC and again didn't believe him while he was preaching in 33AD. And, most people aren't believing Him again today. You do know what the transitive or substitution property in algebra is? Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus is Jehovah based on the transitive property above. Jehovah is the Son of God. Stop being like the naysayers of old. Use that brain God gave you to logically reason for a change.
Also if you would bother googling yourself, how many times in the Bible does it say Jesus is the Son of God, it's 76 times, 65 by Jesus himself. Jehovah and Jesus both state they are "I am." by name. Logic says Jesus is Jehovah, the Son of God.

Cougarbear:

Nobody with common sense believes you looked up the name Jehovah on the Internet, based upon your nonsensical response above.

Until you do your homework, as I instructed you, I will have to give you a grade of "F" = FAIL.


Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

The New Living Translation? LOL! The New? We don't need the New Living Translation. All others have it correct. This came out of the work of 90 scholars in 1996 who apposed the LDS Church doctrine that we can become heirs to our Father's Kingdom and even continue on to become a god of our own universes. As JW's they had to butcher the meaning by re-translating and re-translating. Uggg! Along with the KJV, the NIV and the Catholic Bibles. It cracks me up that it's even in your JW Bible! And, you use the NLT Bible? LOL! From the JW Bible, verse 34 is an answer to verse 33, "The Jews answered him: "We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy, for you, although being a man, make yourself a god." Jesus answered that specific statement by reminding them "I said: You are gods?" Going back to Psalms 82, there is more after he said, "Ye are gods." He then says, but children of the Most High God. Meaning that we are gods in embryo learning the knowledge to become a god. Celestial glory (1Cor. 15:41-44)

Cougarbear:

You claimed I was relying on the New World Translation published by Jehovah's Witnesses; remember? I quoted from New Living Translation published by an entirely different group of people, and their translation debunked your claim that Jesus was saying he is Jehovah.


Alter2Ego