Zone1 Christendom's Trinity - Where Did It Come From?

[Cougarbear]

Worship is NEVER given to one who has a God--Obeisance is the correct translating of that word for Jesus= Gods appointed king.
Archangel means chief of the angels-thus leads them. How do you explain Michael leading the angels during the war in heaven to defeat satan and his angels?
One of the chief princes means one who is anointed by God in a leader position. Satan was one of those=the anointed Cherub.

JWs are truly sick. Satan is not an anointed leader except for the ones he took down with him when banished from heaven. Your Church doesn’t cut it with the verses I gave you. And the Lord himself said he spoke to David in 82:6. Your translation is faulty and now toast. Repent!

 

[kjw47]

JWs are truly sick. Satan is not an anointed leader except for the ones he took down with him when banished from heaven. Your Church doesn’t cut it with the verses I gave you. And the Lord himself said he spoke to David in 82:6. Your translation is faulty and now toast. Repent!

Sad you are always incorrect--Ezekial 28:14-19--satan=the anointed cherub
Is 82:6 psalms-LORD=Jehovah.

 

[Cougarbear]

Sad you are always incorrect--Ezekial 28:14-19--satan=the anointed cherub
Is 82:6 psalms-LORD=Jehovah.

Yes, 82:6 is Jehovah. Now, John 10:34, Jesus said to the people asking the questions, "I said, Ye are gods?" The two together with simple logic and reasoning means Jesus said he was the Jehovah in Psalms 82:6. So, any other verses in your Bible are incorrectly translated.

 

[Leo123]

IMO the 'Holy Spirit' (formerly Holy Ghost) depicts a belief in an over-arching continuum in which we all exist and are a part of like an "ocean" and we constitute the waves. We (the waves) rise up and recede back into the 'ocean' which we are forever a part of.

 

[Cougarbear]

IMO the 'Holy Spirit' (formerly Holy Ghost) depicts a belief in an over-arching continuum in which we all exist and are a part of like an "ocean" and we constitute the waves. We (the waves) rise up and recede back into the 'ocean' which we are forever a part of.

Similar to what my opinion is. Except it has to do with the quantum concept that we are all connected with God. Specifically with the Holy Ghost who by this reasoning can be in all people at the same time. It allows millions to pray to the Father in the name of the Son at the same time and be heard.

 

[kjw47]

Yes, 82:6 is Jehovah. Now, John 10:34, Jesus said to the people asking the questions, "I said, Ye are gods?" The two together with simple logic and reasoning means Jesus said he was the Jehovah in Psalms 82:6. So, any other verses in your Bible are incorrectly translated.

nice twisting--ye are gods= has godlike qualities= made in Gods image=the ability to love, reason, etc.

 

[Cougarbear]

nice twisting--ye are gods= has godlike qualities= made in Gods image=the ability to love, reason, etc.

No twisting. You said 82:6 refers to Jehovah and I agreed. I just pointed out that Jesus himself said he is the one who said that in 82:6. Now you are trying to twist and squirm out of it by introducing Godlike qualities, love, reason, blah, blah, blah... Jesus said he was Jehovah according to your own words.

 

[kjw47]

No twisting. You said 82:6 refers to Jehovah and I agreed. I just pointed out that Jesus himself said he is the one who said that in 82:6. Now you are trying to twist and squirm out of it by introducing Godlike qualities, love, reason, blah, blah, blah... Jesus said he was Jehovah according to your own words.

Psalm 110:1--The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord( Jesus) is sit at my( not ours) right hand until i make your enemies as a stool for your feet.--One CANNOT sit at their own right hand. Why do you hate truth?

 

[Cougarbear]

Psalm 110:1--The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord( Jesus) is sit at my( not ours) right hand until i make your enemies as a stool for your feet.--One CANNOT sit at their own right hand. Why do you hate truth?

Why do you hate the truth that Jesus said he is Jehovah in Psalms 82:6? It’s your belief that Jehovah is the Father. So, it’s you sitting at your own right hand. I believe Jesus being Jehovah is the Father’s Son. Now, it all fits.
John 10:34 = Psalms 82:6
John 10:34 Jesus is the Son, therefore, Jehovah is the Son.
Now, Jesus can sit at the right hand of the Father.
The facts now fit. Why do you hate logic and reason for truth is reason and truth is eternal.

 

[kjw47]

Why do you hate the truth that Jesus said he is Jehovah in Psalms 82:6? It’s your belief that Jehovah is the Father. So, it’s you sitting at your own right hand. I believe Jesus being Jehovah is the Father’s Son. Now, it all fits.
John 10:34 = Psalms 82:6
John 10:34 Jesus is the Son, therefore, Jehovah is the Son.
Now, Jesus can sit at the right hand of the Father.
The facts now fit. Why do you hate logic and reason for truth is reason and truth is eternal.

Your twisting never makes a truth. Psalm 110:1 proves its you in error as always. Get it together Cougarbear, time is running out.

 

[Cougarbear]

Your twisting never makes a truth. Psalm 110:1 proves its you in error as always. Get it together Cougarbear, time is running out.

It proves nothing. It says one Lord (God) said unto David's Lord (God). Two Gods, two thrones. Just like in Rev. 3:21. One is greater than the other. Jesus throne is at the right hand of the Father. Better get it straight because time is running out for you.

 

[kjw47]

It proves nothing. It says one Lord (God) said unto David's Lord (God). Two Gods, two thrones. Just like in Rev. 3:21. One is greater than the other. Jesus throne is at the right hand of the Father. Better get it straight because time is running out for you.

It says LORD all capitols in altered translations. God put-YHWH or YHVH. Altered translations by satans will to mislead.

 

[Cougarbear]

It says LORD all capitols in altered translations. God put-YHWH or YHVH. Altered translations by satans will to mislead.

You write the word with all capitals. And, your attempt has nothing to do with the scriptures I wrote because you cannot deny them. So you deflect with stupid pointless ideas about capital letters

 

[kjw47]

You write the word with all capitals. And, your attempt has nothing to do with the scriptures I wrote because you cannot deny them. So you deflect with stupid pointless ideas about capital letters

In nearly 6800 spots-OT YHVH was replaced by wicked men who had no right in every spot-GOD or LORD all capital letters is found in the altered translations. Altered by satans will to mislead. As it is doing to you. This is FACT OF LIFE. Proven fact.

 

[Alter2Ego]

Yes, 82:6 is Jehovah. Now, John 10:34, Jesus said to the people asking the questions, "I said, Ye are gods?" The two together with simple logic and reasoning means Jesus said he was the Jehovah in Psalms 82:6. So, any other verses in your Bible are incorrectly translated.

Cougarbear:

That's incorrect. At John 10:34, Jesus was simply quoting what Jehovah said at Psalm 82:6. Notice the quotation below from a Trinitarian Bible translation.

"Jesus replied, “It is written in your own Scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people, ‘I say, you are gods!’ (John 10:34 -- New Living Translation)

 

[Alter2Ego]

IMO the 'Holy Spirit' (formerly Holy Ghost) depicts a belief in an over-arching continuum in which we all exist and are a part of like an "ocean" and we constitute the waves. We (the waves) rise up and recede back into the 'ocean' which we are forever a part of.

Leo123:

The Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost are synonyms. They mean the exact same thing.


Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

IMO the 'Holy Spirit' (formerly Holy Ghost) depicts a belief in an over-arching continuum in which we all exist and are a part of like an "ocean" and we constitute the waves. We (the waves) rise up and recede back into the 'ocean' which we are forever a part of.

Leo123:

The holy spirit aka holy ghost is Jehovah's force that he uses to get things done. It is not, as you opine, "an over-arching continuum in which we all exist and are a part of."


Alter2Ego

 

[Alter2Ego]

Jehovah is not the Father. Jehovah is the Son. God is the Father. You know that. the Word was with the Father. Hast to be. And, the Word was also God, the Son or the Son of God. Again, in the beginning of the universe from Genesis 1:1. "In the beginning, God (Father) created the heavens (universe) and the earth. We believe he had Jehovah and Michael do this with help from the rest of us spirit children. So yes, Jehovah organized the universe and thus was here before the universe was organized. But, Jehovah is not God the Father.

Cougarbear:

You know perfectly well that Jesus is the Son and that Jehovah is the Father.

In fact, I challenge you to go online and look up the name Jehovah? Do that, and then come back and repeat that nonsense that I bolded above where you falsely claimed "Jehovah is not the Father. Jehovah is the Son."

I will wait.


Alter2Ego

 

[Cougarbear]

Cougarbear:

That's incorrect. At John 10:34, Jesus was simply quoting what Jehovah said at Psalm 82:6. Notice the quotation below from a Trinitarian Bible translation.

"Jesus replied, “It is written in your own Scriptures that God said to certain leaders of the people, ‘I say, you are gods!’ (John 10:34 -- New Living Translation)

Your translation to hide the fact that he said I SAID, Ye are gods, and children of the most high. Shame on JWs. You guys did that because every time you'd run into a Mormon missionary, they would blow you away...

 

[Cougarbear]

Cougarbear:

You know perfectly well that Jesus is the Son and that Jehovah is the Father.

In fact, I challenge you to go online and look up the name Jehovah? Do that, and then come back and repeat that nonsense that I bolded above where you falsely claimed "Jehovah is not the Father. Jehovah is the Son."

I will wait.


Alter2Ego

Your scholars who falsely prophesied the end of the world 5 times now changed the Word of God in the Bible to fit the other lies they teach you. I and others have given you several scriptures to prove you changed the doctrine. Shame on you.