CHOP just chopped down downtown Seattle

” … The unrest that has taken place in the city of Seattle … there is really is not a downtown business community today,” Smead Capital Management, President and CEO Cole Smead told KTAR News 92.3 FM.
“We’re hearing rumors of 40-story buildings that will be only 20-percent occupied by October,” Smead said.
Going to be a wonderful lesson for the rest of the country
Wonderful lesson in economics. A business can deduct relocation expenses on taxes. Kind of like being paid to move by the Federal Government. Tough luck, Seattle. I have heard Phoenix is nice.

According to conservatives here, it's a shit hole. I live here and it's quite beautiful as red state cities go. Nearly zero zoning and strip malls that seem to pop up overnight.
State Income Tax, and Property tax rate? Sounds like a nice state to visit.

Sales tax rate is tricky. Phoenix is made up of a patchwork of different cities. If you buy something in Glendale, you pay more than you would in Gilbert or Scottsdale. 8.3% is PHX
Found property tax rate in Seattle, Wa to be 8.29%
Washington state, it turns out has no state income tax so they win that part hand down vs Arizona being:
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Phoenix sounds like a good move for that company and it's people, especially for people being relocated by the company.

I'd rather live in the Bay Area if I had my druthers. AZ is very nice with plenty to do outdoors. I used to drive up to Burning Man every Summer and hit 2 or 3 national parks on the way to and fro. Costs of living is ridiculous whereever you live if you want to reside any place that has any amenities at all.

I guess the analysis is useful but I don't think of it in terms of costs. The benefit of having a pension I guess.
Got to admire you analysis, as that is why we worked for all these years, to be able to do what we want, where we want to do it. As a business decision to move an investment firm to a more stable environment as referred to in the first link attached is also understandable from a business point of view.
I am not a hard-line kind of guy. Would not even say from 2,300 miles away that the authorities even handled it wrong, since they have had less violence and destruction overall then several other cities. They handled it, the way they handled it and it is their problem, not mine.

Just while we're on the subject of politics; if there is one thing I miss about the East (I spent time in South Carolina with my very politically active Grandfather) is that politics out here is not taken overly seriously. Not that this is any big indicator but there is no governor's mansion in the state. I looked it up and at least 3 others states don't have one either--ID, MA, RI. Napalitano used to joke that there was a Gubenatorial condo. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Sinema and McSally were drinking buddies after gutting one another on the Senate floor with dull machetes. The Gaby Gifford shooting was such a shock to the system that the result was disbelief more than it was anger.

Saying it's "laid back" like Florida or Cali isn't correct either. But it's almost like a severe detachment from the rest of the nation here that is both peaceful and unnerving at times. I would imagine that organizers for the Parties out here have very hard jobs trying to get the average Arizonan to buy into whatever urgent issue that is being discussed. Kelly is going to have a very hard time unseating McSally.
 

The Domestic Terrorists' mouthpiece, Mayor Durkan, announced the decision to turn the 3 remaining blocks being held with guards illegally carrying firearms, against the Mayor's law.


They don't believe in borders.
- They built borders

They don't believe in owning guns
- They illegally armed themselves

They declared they needed no cops
- They descended into lawless violence
- They had robberies, extortion, assaults, shootings, and murder

They wanted no govt
- The Local Govt gave them porta-potties, food, drinks, concrete barriers, and protection

They sought to form their own Utopia...a better 'country' than the greatest country in the world, based on the 2nd greatest document ever written, the US Constitution, and on the rule of law....

...and they have failed miserably.


.
Just like when the cops are in power they fail to stop anything including their own lawlessness.
You so funny, stupid, but funny.
 
Jun232020
Party Is Ending in Seattle
Playtime is winding down for the anarchocommies who have destroyed Seattle. They had their fun looting and setting up their own cop-free country in the middle of town. Due to the predictable bloodshed, Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan has stopped bleating about a “Summer of Love,” and has announced that the city will reassert authority over CHAZ/CHOP:
“The cumulative impacts of the gatherings and protests and the nighttime atmosphere and violence has led to increasingly difficult circumstances for our businesses and residents,” Durkan said at a news conference. …
“We have to make sure that any resident, any business, or any visitor that calls for help gets the help they need,” Durkan said.
Too bad she didn’t consider her duty to law-abiding citizens back on June 8, when the occupation began. By now, the damage has been done. For example,
Coronavirus pandemic or not, an investment advisory company is leaving the cultural unrest in Seattle and moving its headquarters to Phoenix’s Camelback Corridor.
” … The unrest that has taken place in the city of Seattle … there is really is not a downtown business community today,” Smead Capital Management, President and CEO Cole Smead told KTAR News 92.3 FM.
Seattle is no longer a city; it is a punchline. Smead won’t be the last to bail out.
“We’re hearing rumors of 40-story buildings that will be only 20-percent occupied by October,” Smead said.
Smead noted that Phoenix offers a better quality of life. This is because Phoenix has not yet succumbed to end-stage moonbattery.
As of May 31, the firm managed approximately $1.58 billion.
Welcome to the Valley of the Sun. Please do not bring any Democrat voting habits with you. Phoenix will only prosper so long as the ideology that destroyed Seattle is held at bay. Once the disease takes firm hold, employers will have to move on again.
On tips from Steve T, KirklesWorth, and Mr. Freemarket.


All links highlighted

Forget that "the movement " roflmao has disintegratied nto violence ....ally vs ally ♥
And has turned into a complete joke ...just like all leftwing endeavors

But businesses and stores ain't coming back

Good thing all you leftwing nazi moronic white kids go back to white suburbia eh?
Remind mommy to pick up milk for your corn pops
 
Jun232020
Party Is Ending in Seattle
Playtime is winding down for the anarchocommies who have destroyed Seattle. They had their fun looting and setting up their own cop-free country in the middle of town. Due to the predictable bloodshed, Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan has stopped bleating about a “Summer of Love,” and has announced that the city will reassert authority over CHAZ/CHOP:
“The cumulative impacts of the gatherings and protests and the nighttime atmosphere and violence has led to increasingly difficult circumstances for our businesses and residents,” Durkan said at a news conference. …
“We have to make sure that any resident, any business, or any visitor that calls for help gets the help they need,” Durkan said.
Too bad she didn’t consider her duty to law-abiding citizens back on June 8, when the occupation began. By now, the damage has been done. For example,
Coronavirus pandemic or not, an investment advisory company is leaving the cultural unrest in Seattle and moving its headquarters to Phoenix’s Camelback Corridor.
” … The unrest that has taken place in the city of Seattle … there is really is not a downtown business community today,” Smead Capital Management, President and CEO Cole Smead told KTAR News 92.3 FM.
Seattle is no longer a city; it is a punchline. Smead won’t be the last to bail out.
“We’re hearing rumors of 40-story buildings that will be only 20-percent occupied by October,” Smead said.
Smead noted that Phoenix offers a better quality of life. This is because Phoenix has not yet succumbed to end-stage moonbattery.
As of May 31, the firm managed approximately $1.58 billion.
Welcome to the Valley of the Sun. Please do not bring any Democrat voting habits with you. Phoenix will only prosper so long as the ideology that destroyed Seattle is held at bay. Once the disease takes firm hold, employers will have to move on again.
On tips from Steve T, KirklesWorth, and Mr. Freemarket.


All links highlighted

Forget that "the movement " roflmao has disintegratied nto violence ....ally vs ally ♥
And has turned into a complete joke ...just like all leftwing endeavors

But businesses and stores ain't coming back

Good thing all you leftwing nazi moronic white kids go back to white suburbia eh?
Remind mommy to pick up milk for your corn pops
Well, I hope someone got to lay some hippy chicks. Otherwise, it would have been a complete waste of time,
 
Jun232020
Party Is Ending in Seattle
Playtime is winding down for the anarchocommies who have destroyed Seattle. They had their fun looting and setting up their own cop-free country in the middle of town. Due to the predictable bloodshed, Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan has stopped bleating about a “Summer of Love,” and has announced that the city will reassert authority over CHAZ/CHOP:
“The cumulative impacts of the gatherings and protests and the nighttime atmosphere and violence has led to increasingly difficult circumstances for our businesses and residents,” Durkan said at a news conference. …
“We have to make sure that any resident, any business, or any visitor that calls for help gets the help they need,” Durkan said.
Too bad she didn’t consider her duty to law-abiding citizens back on June 8, when the occupation began. By now, the damage has been done. For example,
Coronavirus pandemic or not, an investment advisory company is leaving the cultural unrest in Seattle and moving its headquarters to Phoenix’s Camelback Corridor.
” … The unrest that has taken place in the city of Seattle … there is really is not a downtown business community today,” Smead Capital Management, President and CEO Cole Smead told KTAR News 92.3 FM.
Seattle is no longer a city; it is a punchline. Smead won’t be the last to bail out.
“We’re hearing rumors of 40-story buildings that will be only 20-percent occupied by October,” Smead said.
Smead noted that Phoenix offers a better quality of life. This is because Phoenix has not yet succumbed to end-stage moonbattery.
As of May 31, the firm managed approximately $1.58 billion.
Welcome to the Valley of the Sun. Please do not bring any Democrat voting habits with you. Phoenix will only prosper so long as the ideology that destroyed Seattle is held at bay. Once the disease takes firm hold, employers will have to move on again.
On tips from Steve T, KirklesWorth, and Mr. Freemarket.


All links highlighted

Forget that "the movement " roflmao has disintegratied nto violence ....ally vs ally ♥
And has turned into a complete joke ...just like all leftwing endeavors

But businesses and stores ain't coming back

Good thing all you leftwing nazi moronic white kids go back to white suburbia eh?
Remind mommy to pick up milk for your corn pops
Well, I hope someone got to lay some hippy chicks. Otherwise, it would have been a complete waste of time,
Oh thier were plenty of rapes ...so yeah

Smash the patriarcy with rapes in a left wing autonomous zone ....with armed guards at the border

It was the John brown society supplying the guns and some of the guards
 
Good riddance. They proved that a utopia with no rules is unattainable. I hope the businesses won't suffer to much.
 
Dear Deplorable Yankee
If the community there WANTED to set up a campus town,
that can be done. Bring in businesses that cater to the art and college crowd,
build an educational program there to train new business leaders and owners
to manage their own sites, districts and civics organizations, and it can meet positive
goals and means of reform.

Microlending, business training, and nonprofits building schools
have been uplifting members of disadvantaged communities
by investing in development the RIGHT WAY.

The other businesses that don't want to mentor or invest in
the learning curve to train a whole community to manage their own district
should be able to move. So only voluntary participants can develop
a community there, investing in exchange for tax breaks to pay
for the type of education, social services, and policy enforcement
they want, like a college campus has integrated with jobs, housing etc.

Here are model plans for renovating public housing
as a sustainable community campus with jobs, internships
and services built into the programs:
www.campusplan.org

Model plans for microlending and building schools/jobs
to develop communities to be self-supporting financially:
www.grameenfoundation.
www.paceuniversal.com

How to reform health care through nonprofit
cooperative programs that members can manage themselves:
www.medcoops.info
www.ppcwebsite.org

To teach basic Constitutional laws and enforcement, I would recommend
that all community members take the same screening, oath and training
as police officers or military, in order to hire and fund their own staff.
www.ethics-commission.net

NONE of this needed to be negative.
Taking on responsibility for government should be ENCOURAGED
by giving citizens TAX BREAKS for investing directly in managing
their own districts democratically, reducing the cost of crime and
violence, so the money saved can cover costs and labor of residents
managing their own businesses, health care, education and security.

www.earnedamnesty.org
 
Jun232020
Party Is Ending in Seattle
Playtime is winding down for the anarchocommies who have destroyed Seattle. They had their fun looting and setting up their own cop-free country in the middle of town. Due to the predictable bloodshed, Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan has stopped bleating about a “Summer of Love,” and has announced that the city will reassert authority over CHAZ/CHOP:
“The cumulative impacts of the gatherings and protests and the nighttime atmosphere and violence has led to increasingly difficult circumstances for our businesses and residents,” Durkan said at a news conference. …
“We have to make sure that any resident, any business, or any visitor that calls for help gets the help they need,” Durkan said.
Too bad she didn’t consider her duty to law-abiding citizens back on June 8, when the occupation began. By now, the damage has been done. For example,
Coronavirus pandemic or not, an investment advisory company is leaving the cultural unrest in Seattle and moving its headquarters to Phoenix’s Camelback Corridor.
” … The unrest that has taken place in the city of Seattle … there is really is not a downtown business community today,” Smead Capital Management, President and CEO Cole Smead told KTAR News 92.3 FM.
Seattle is no longer a city; it is a punchline. Smead won’t be the last to bail out.
“We’re hearing rumors of 40-story buildings that will be only 20-percent occupied by October,” Smead said.
Smead noted that Phoenix offers a better quality of life. This is because Phoenix has not yet succumbed to end-stage moonbattery.
As of May 31, the firm managed approximately $1.58 billion.
Welcome to the Valley of the Sun. Please do not bring any Democrat voting habits with you. Phoenix will only prosper so long as the ideology that destroyed Seattle is held at bay. Once the disease takes firm hold, employers will have to move on again.
On tips from Steve T, KirklesWorth, and Mr. Freemarket.


All links highlighted

Forget that "the movement " roflmao has disintegratied nto violence ....ally vs ally ♥
And has turned into a complete joke ...just like all leftwing endeavors

But businesses and stores ain't coming back

Good thing all you leftwing nazi moronic white kids go back to white suburbia eh?
Remind mommy to pick up milk for your corn pops

That is a joke. They will be asked to leave?HAHAHA. The mayor will have no idea what to do when they resist and star a riot and more looting. She needs to call in the national guard and forcibly throw them out
 
Dear Deplorable Yankee
If the community there WANTED to set up a campus town,
that can be done. Bring in businesses that cater to the art and college crowd,
build an educational program there to train new business leaders and owners
to manage their own sites, districts and civics organizations, and it can meet positive
goals and means of reform.

Microlending, business training, and nonprofits building schools
have been uplifting members of disadvantaged communities
by investing in development the RIGHT WAY.

The other businesses that don't want to mentor or invest in
the learning curve to train a whole community to manage their own district
should be able to move. So only voluntary participants can develop
a community there, investing in exchange for tax breaks to pay
for the type of education, social services, and policy enforcement
they want, like a college campus has integrated with jobs, housing etc.

Here are model plans for renovating public housing
as a sustainable community campus with jobs, internships
and services built into the programs:
www.campusplan.org

Model plans for microlending and building schools/jobs
to develop communities to be self-supporting financially:
www.grameenfoundation.
www.paceuniversal.com

How to reform health care through nonprofit
cooperative programs that members can manage themselves:
www.medcoops.info
www.ppcwebsite.org

To teach basic Constitutional laws and enforcement, I would recommend
that all community members take the same screening, oath and training
as police officers or military, in order to hire and fund their own staff.
www.ethics-commission.net

NONE of this needed to be negative.
Taking on responsibility for government should be ENCOURAGED
by giving citizens TAX BREAKS for investing directly in managing
their own districts democratically, reducing the cost of crime and
violence, so the money saved can cover costs and labor of residents
managing their own businesses, health care, education and security.

www.earnedamnesty.org
They merged the thread

Anyway

After you throw up a pile of money to get this rolling
See the mau mau thread I threw up in race category as to what happens next
 
The Mayor and full city council have voted to prohibit use of force by the police. The criminals can use any force they want.
 

The Domestic Terrorists' mouthpiece, Mayor Durkan, announced the decision to turn the 3 remaining blocks being held with guards illegally carrying firearms, against the Mayor's law.


They don't believe in borders.
- They built borders

They don't believe in owning guns
- They illegally armed themselves

They declared they needed no cops
- They descended into lawless violence
- They had robberies, extortion, assaults, shootings, and murder

They wanted no govt
- The Local Govt gave them porta-potties, food, drinks, concrete barriers, and protection

They sought to form their own Utopia...a better 'country' than the greatest country in the world, based on the 2nd greatest document ever written, the US Constitution, and on the rule of law....

...and they have failed miserably.


.


Like many who gain power in life, they often emulate the very systems and methods they pretend to reject. All of this was as inevitable as the sun rising in the morning. Kudos to Trump for being smart.

Notice almost simultaneously there are aggressive protests in Washington just as the order has come to disband CHOP. None of this, in my estimation, is coincidence. So, who is behind it all?
The Chinese Communist Party in collusion with the Democratic party.
 

The Domestic Terrorists' mouthpiece, Mayor Durkan, announced the decision to turn the 3 remaining blocks being held with guards illegally carrying firearms, against the Mayor's law.


They don't believe in borders.
- They built borders

They don't believe in owning guns
- They illegally armed themselves

They declared they needed no cops
- They descended into lawless violence
- They had robberies, extortion, assaults, shootings, and murder

They wanted no govt
- The Local Govt gave them porta-potties, food, drinks, concrete barriers, and protection

They sought to form their own Utopia...a better 'country' than the greatest country in the world, based on the 2nd greatest document ever written, the US Constitution, and on the rule of law....

...and they have failed miserably.


.
Just like when the cops are in power they fail to stop anything including their own lawlessness.
Maybe you should take responsibility for your and your family's safety yourself, then, instead of insisting government -- which you believe has failed the task -- do it for you.
Show where I have relied on the govt. to provide any safety for my family...The cops are no good at protecting anything they are good at being criminals..
If you haven't, good. In general, people who insist cops are overwhelmingly corrupt also demand government take care of them cradle to grave.
Not that I know of. We the people are tired of a corrupt govt. and the corrupt people who claim to protect and serve us...We want to delete these corrupt individuals from these organizations which are suppose to protect not abuse, harass and extort money from us.
Not that you know of? Have you not heard of the Democratic Party?
 
Universalist #69: campusplan states '....while at the same time addressing a broader range of issues, thereby providing the means for residents to build a bridge out of public housing.'

But who owns the real estate under the buildings is what counts. For example, when the LA musician built tiny homes and gave them to the street people, then the city removed them. Campus plan conveniently sidesteps the first-cause philosophy: ownership. Thus, these proposed tenants will be instrumental in assisting in the appreciation of someone else's real estate. For how long might this 'emancipative' trajectory out of public housing last for each of these tenants, when from the start, their labor could be buying the building materials?
 

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