Catholic Church "cannot bless same sex couples"

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Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

You are just the guy who builds straw men to knock down because you don't possess the intellect or the integrity to have an honest discussion.

Well hello Ding. What are you whining about today?

ummmm.... your lack of intellect and integrity?

Wasn't that clear from the post you replied to?

Perhaps you could point out where what I said was wrong.

Sure.

1. No one worships the Pope.
2. The Pope is not a rich guy in a pointy hat.
3. The Pope does not befreind Nazi's.
4. The Pope does not protect pedophiles.
5. The Pope does not speak for God.

 

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Not exactly surprised. This Pope isn’t as conservative as his predecessors, but is only going to be “progressive“ to a point...

I agree. I just wish he would not make vague statements which could be misconstrued by others.

 

[BULLDOG]

Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

The Pope isn't worshiped, and he isn't wealthy. The Vatican holds the wealth of the Church as an organization, not the Pope.

Try to understand the things you bitch about before you bitch about them.

I see, and he gets no more benefit from that wealth than any other parishioner, right?

The wealth is mostly tied down in heritage sites and antiquities. He lives probably just as well was any other head of State or less well than a CEO of an comparable organization.

Except his followers believe his word is the inerrant word of God. Every single statement he makes calls for instant and unquestioning agreement. Sure, sounds like just a normal parishioner to me. I'm sure people around him tell him no, all the time.

 

[martybegan]

Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

The Pope isn't worshiped, and he isn't wealthy. The Vatican holds the wealth of the Church as an organization, not the Pope.

Try to understand the things you bitch about before you bitch about them.

I see, and he gets no more benefit from that wealth than any other parishioner, right?

The wealth is mostly tied down in heritage sites and antiquities. He lives probably just as well was any other head of State or less well than a CEO of an comparable organization.

Except his followers believe his word is the inerrant word of God. Every single statement he makes calls for instant and unquestioning agreement. Sure, sounds like just a normal parishioner to me. I'm sure people around him tell him no, all the time.

No, Papal infallibility is only on items of doctrine, and only for specific pronunciations.

Unlike the progressive church of the SJW twat, Catholicism in the US isn't mandatory to agree with.

 

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Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

The Pope isn't worshiped, and he isn't wealthy. The Vatican holds the wealth of the Church as an organization, not the Pope.

Try to understand the things you bitch about before you bitch about them.

I see, and he gets no more benefit from that wealth than any other parishioner, right?

The wealth is mostly tied down in heritage sites and antiquities. He lives probably just as well was any other head of State or less well than a CEO of an comparable organization.

Except his followers believe his word is the inerrant word of God. Every single statement he makes calls for instant and unquestioning agreement. Sure, sounds like just a normal parishioner to me. I'm sure people around him tell him no, all the time.

Again... straw man. Learn what ex cathedra means, how it is applied and how many times it's been invoked.

 

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Bulldog is like a puppy in that someone has to follow him around cleaning up his piles of shit.

Seriously, what could possibly go wrong for a person who shoots from the hip with no facts and only biases controlling his beliefs?

 

[BULLDOG]

Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

The Pope isn't worshiped, and he isn't wealthy. The Vatican holds the wealth of the Church as an organization, not the Pope.

Try to understand the things you bitch about before you bitch about them.

I see, and he gets no more benefit from that wealth than any other parishioner, right?

The thing I have always liked about watching you argue is how your arguments prove you believe morals are absolute and universal.

Really? Oh please continue.

 

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Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

The Pope isn't worshiped, and he isn't wealthy. The Vatican holds the wealth of the Church as an organization, not the Pope.

Try to understand the things you bitch about before you bitch about them.

I see, and he gets no more benefit from that wealth than any other parishioner, right?

The thing I have always liked about watching you argue is how your arguments prove you believe morals are absolute and universal.

Really? Oh please continue.

Sure. Every argument you make is a moral argument. At the heart of these moral arguments is your belief in a universal right and wrong. You expect that everyone should universally known and accept what you are arguing is good, just and true. It is this behavior which tells us that you have an expectation for absolute truth and absolute morals.

Now do you understand?

 

[BULLDOG]

Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

You are just the guy who builds straw men to knock down because you don't possess the intellect or the integrity to have an honest discussion.

Well hello Ding. What are you whining about today?

ummmm.... your lack of intellect and integrity?

Wasn't that clear from the post you replied to?

Perhaps you could point out where what I said was wrong.

Sure.

1. No one worships the Pope.
2. The Pope is not a rich guy in a pointy hat.
3. The Pope does not befreind Nazi's.
4. The Pope does not protect pedophiles.
5. The Pope does not speak for God.

1. Many worship the Pope. Where do you think the expression "Kiss the ring" comes from?
2. The pope is rich, and he does have a pointy hat.
3. The Church, under the rule of a pope befriended the Nazis, and lied about it until documents proving it were opened just last year.
4. The court found that The Church under the rule of the Pope certainly did protect pedophiles.
5. The pope, as the successor of St. Peter, holds the office of Vicar of Christ, to whom was given the keys to the kingdom and the powers of binding and loosing (see Mt 16:17-19). As such, the pope is Christ’s representative of the Church on earth. He is, therefore, the supreme leader of the Church, which includes both clergy and laity. This makes the pope the “visible source and foundation” of the unity of the entire Church. Quoting Lumen Gentium Nos. 22 and 23, the Catechism teaches:

 

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Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

You are just the guy who builds straw men to knock down because you don't possess the intellect or the integrity to have an honest discussion.

Well hello Ding. What are you whining about today?

ummmm.... your lack of intellect and integrity?

Wasn't that clear from the post you replied to?

Perhaps you could point out where what I said was wrong.

Sure.

1. No one worships the Pope.
2. The Pope is not a rich guy in a pointy hat.
3. The Pope does not befreind Nazi's.
4. The Pope does not protect pedophiles.
5. The Pope does not speak for God.

1. Many worship the Pope. Where do you think the expression "Kiss the ring" comes from?
2. The pope is rich, and he does have a pointy hat.
3. The Church, under the rule of a pope befriended the Nazis, and lied about it until documents proving it were opened just last year.
4. The court found that The Church under the rule of the Pope certainly did protect pedophiles.
5. The pope, as the successor of St. Peter, holds the office of Vicar of Christ, to whom was given the keys to the kingdom and the powers of binding and loosing (see Mt 16:17-19). As such, the pope is Christ’s representative of the Church on earth. He is, therefore, the supreme leader of the Church, which includes both clergy and laity. This makes the pope the “visible source and foundation” of the unity of the entire Church. Quoting Lumen Gentium Nos. 22 and 23, the Catechism teaches:

Again...

1. No one worships the Pope.
2. The Pope is not a rich guy in a pointy hat.
3. The Pope does not befreind Nazi's.
4. The Pope does not protect pedophiles.
5. The Pope does not speak for God.

 

[TNHarley]

Who cares? The Catholic Church doesnt have much high ground to stand on.

 

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Who cares? The Catholic Church doesnt have much high ground to stand on.

A billion Catholics?

 

[BULLDOG]

Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

The Pope isn't worshiped, and he isn't wealthy. The Vatican holds the wealth of the Church as an organization, not the Pope.

Try to understand the things you bitch about before you bitch about them.

I see, and he gets no more benefit from that wealth than any other parishioner, right?

The wealth is mostly tied down in heritage sites and antiquities. He lives probably just as well was any other head of State or less well than a CEO of an comparable organization.

Except his followers believe his word is the inerrant word of God. Every single statement he makes calls for instant and unquestioning agreement. Sure, sounds like just a normal parishioner to me. I'm sure people around him tell him no, all the time.

No, Papal infallibility is only on items of doctrine, and only for specific pronunciations.

Unlike the progressive church of the SJW twat, Catholicism in the US isn't mandatory to agree with.

Then those do not follow the tenants of the Catholic Church. I don't know what they are, but they are not Catholic. Perhaps they are just a group who claim and bastardize the name in an effort to justify their un-Christ like teachings. You know, like many Christians do.

 

[TNHarley]

Who cares? The Catholic Church doesnt have much high ground to stand on.

A billion Catholics?

Guess i should have said, "who cares besides their followers that support them through every repugnant act they commit?"
Thanks.

 

[martybegan]

Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

You are just the guy who builds straw men to knock down because you don't possess the intellect or the integrity to have an honest discussion.

Well hello Ding. What are you whining about today?

ummmm.... your lack of intellect and integrity?

Wasn't that clear from the post you replied to?

Perhaps you could point out where what I said was wrong.

Sure.

1. No one worships the Pope.
2. The Pope is not a rich guy in a pointy hat.
3. The Pope does not befreind Nazi's.
4. The Pope does not protect pedophiles.
5. The Pope does not speak for God.

1. Many worship the Pope. Where do you think the expression "Kiss the ring" comes from?
2. The pope is rich, and he does have a pointy hat.
3. The Church, under the rule of a pope befriended the Nazis, and lied about it until documents proving it were opened just last year.
4. The court found that The Church under the rule of the Pope certainly did protect pedophiles.
5. The pope, as the successor of St. Peter, holds the office of Vicar of Christ, to whom was given the keys to the kingdom and the powers of binding and loosing (see Mt 16:17-19). As such, the pope is Christ’s representative of the Church on earth. He is, therefore, the supreme leader of the Church, which includes both clergy and laity. This makes the pope the “visible source and foundation” of the unity of the entire Church. Quoting Lumen Gentium Nos. 22 and 23, the Catechism teaches:

1. False.
2. The church is rich, none of it is the Pope's personal wealth
3. The Church signed a Concordant with Germany, right around the time every other government was appeasing the Reich.
4. Most of the Church's scandal involves pederasty, not pedophilia. The coverup happened, but happened and is happening still in many other organizations. Penn State is secular and had a similar scandal, as do many public schools, and even the Boy Scouts
5. None of this refers to papal infallibility or it's limited application.

 

[martybegan]

Since the Catholic Church turned a blind eye to the Holocaust and chose to ignore their priests diddling little kids even after the pedophilia was exposed, I'm not sure their opinion about morals counts for much.

Yet the left will treat any left leaning proclamation by the Church as gospel to rub in the face of anyone not an SJW twat.

I can understand that pointing out the few times your religious leaders admit their hateful flock has gone too far comes as a great shock to you, but you being chided for your normally uncontrolled unethical behavior is certainly worth comment.

As usual you misrepresent my point. You crow about the Church, which you hate, when it can be used against other people you hate, and then revert back to your own hate when they clarify a position they have never changed.

What are you whining about now? I'm not the one who worships a rich guy in a pointy hat who befriends and protects Nazis and pedophiles, and claims to speak for God.

The Pope isn't worshiped, and he isn't wealthy. The Vatican holds the wealth of the Church as an organization, not the Pope.

Try to understand the things you bitch about before you bitch about them.

I see, and he gets no more benefit from that wealth than any other parishioner, right?

The wealth is mostly tied down in heritage sites and antiquities. He lives probably just as well was any other head of State or less well than a CEO of an comparable organization.

Except his followers believe his word is the inerrant word of God. Every single statement he makes calls for instant and unquestioning agreement. Sure, sounds like just a normal parishioner to me. I'm sure people around him tell him no, all the time.

No, Papal infallibility is only on items of doctrine, and only for specific pronunciations.

Unlike the progressive church of the SJW twat, Catholicism in the US isn't mandatory to agree with.

Then those do not follow the tenants of the Catholic Church. I don't know what they are, but they are not Catholic. Perhaps they are just a group who claim and bastardize the name in an effort to justify their un-Christ like teachings. You know, like many Christians do.

They are Bad Catholics, at varying degrees of Bad.

Catholicism has one thing going for it that SJW'ism doesn't, it knows people are imperfect and make mistakes and can be forgiven for those mistakes.

There is no confession in the Church of SJW, no forgiveness to be found.

 

[BULLDOG]

Bulldog is like a puppy in that someone has to follow him around cleaning up his piles of shit.

Seriously, what could possibly go wrong for a person who shoots from the hip with no facts and only biases controlling his beliefs?

I see. Yet you just claimed I am wrong, but didn't prove how or why I was wrong. Oh well. I guess the claim is all it takes for you. At least you're consistent.

 

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Who cares? The Catholic Church doesnt have much high ground to stand on.

A billion Catholics?

Guess i should have said, "who cares besides their followers that support them through every repugnant act they commit?"
Thanks.

You always were one to look at the full distribution.

What could possibly go wrong in your life with such myopic vision

 

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Bulldog is like a puppy in that someone has to follow him around cleaning up his piles of shit.

Seriously, what could possibly go wrong for a person who shoots from the hip with no facts and only biases controlling his beliefs?

I see. Yet you just claimed I am wrong, but didn't prove how or why I was wrong. Oh well. I guess the claim is all it takes for you. At least you're consistent.

Let's do them one by one in the bull ring. Go ahead and create the first debate.

 

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That awkward moment when Bulldog stepped in it...