Zone1 Can the US Survive an EMP Strike?

[Resnic]

Major cities will suffer casualties and I am fine with that. Most of the people who cause problems in America come from major cities.

Once we got everything back on track our country will be better for it because the strong willed and determined people will be the ones to assume control because the soft and weak won't be able to handle it.

 

[badbob85037]

This thread is my OPINON.

Can the US Survive an EMP Strike?

An Electro-Magnetic-Pulse much the same as a solar flare will be devastating to all things in America and abroad. This pulse will melt transformers into huge piles of molten metal and melt transmission lines. The devastation will be massive. Power generation in the United States will suddenly be taken back to the 1850's.

Food production will stop. Storages will quickly spoil. Our ability to communicate will be gone as cell towers and above ground lines will melt or be irreparably destroyed. The lasers for our fiberoptics will be destroyed rendering all of our networks useless. Water purification will stop for our towns and cities as will sewage treatment plants.

One fifty kiloton nuclear device detonated high in our atmosphere above the US would create a cascading collapse of our power grids. Vehicle electronics would be melted and make most forms of transportation useless. Areas that are under sea level would again be inundated with water as pumping would cease.

The mass kaos will rip cities apart. Only rural areas will survive the mass destruction.

How do you think America can survive without electronics today?

Cascading Risks: The U.S. Is Vulnerable To An Electromagnetic Pulse Attack

The Ukraine invasion has brought renewed attention to the danger of nuclear war, but nuclear weapons could also be deployed in a tactical manner against energy and communications systems. An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack could occur by detonating a nuclear weapon in the mid-stratosphere.

www.forbes.com

The question should be Can you survive an EMP Strike.

 

[Batcat]

From the Article:



The October Suprise might not come from democrats. If Putin wanted to, he could employ a high atmosphere nuclear detonation, causing an EMP (Electro-Magnetic-Pulse). IT would send most of the US into darkness very quickly. IF he determines the US did in fact sabotage the Nordstream pipelines, this could be a very real possibility.

It would not be a ground strike, but the devastation and death would be all encompassing very quickly from lack of food, water, and basic necessities. The internal strife would be more devastating than a direct attack and leave the ground ripe for attack and subjugation. With China allied with Putin, nothing is off the table.

If Putin deployed this air burst above international waters, it would have very little effect on the surface, but the EMP would be devastating to over half of the US. IF they deployed two, one east and one west over international water 95% of the US would be in total darkness.

If Putin did use an EMP on our nation we still have the ability to retaliate. If nothing else there still will remain the missiles on our Trident submarines.

Why Russia and China Fear America's Ohio-Class Submarines

They might be old, but they could wipe out an entire country in less than an hour.

nationalinterest.org

 

[konradv]

If Putin did use an EMP on our nation we still have the ability to retaliate. If nothing else there still will remain the missiles on our Trident submarines.

Why Russia and China Fear America's Ohio-Class Submarines

They might be old, but they could wipe out an entire country in less than an hour.

nationalinterest.org

The reason why Putin will say all sorts of nasty things about us, but won't launch any nukes with Tridents all over the Arctic.

 

[Batcat]

The reason why Putin will say all sorts of nasty things about us, but won't launch any nukes with Tridents all over the Arctic.

The reason why Putin will say all sorts of nasty things about us, but won't launch any nukes with Tridents all over the Arctic.

That’s assuming Putin is sane. There are rumors he has lost it.

 

[konradv]

That’s assuming Putin is sane. There are rumors he has lost it.

We just have to hope he isn't. What's the alternative, knuckle under to a guy that's possibly insane?

 

[Batcat]

We just have to hope he isn't. What's the alternative, knuckle under to a guy that's possibly insane?

There is no real alternative except to retaliate if attacked or consider the option of a first strike. In other words if Putin is insane enough to start a full out nuclear war, everybody loses. Hopefully, his own people would remove him from office in that case.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

With all of the racial, gender division , ultra feminist destroying our society taking away jobs from good people who deserve them, coming from the far left… if an EMP attack was to happen that’s why we would be screwed. If we were united now like we used to be in the American past we could take on anything. So we have to get back to that united standpoint which means mutual respect. We’re at terrible country right now there is no mutual respect. They’re destroying statues of Christian European men.

We have a bad country right now because we have corruption we’re putting people in the positions of power based on their skin color not the qualifications.

We have the government building statues that are degenerate art. They make a mockery of people… it’s literally happening it’s pornography in the streets.

 

[Couchpotato]

If a person is old enough, think about what you did when the power went out in your neighborhood as a kid. Back in the 60's or 70's, when the power went out, we simply went outside and played. If it happened at night, we lit candles and read books. But, it wasn't really a big deal.

Now, think about what people do when the power shuts down in their neighborhood nowadays. They're lost. They don't know what to do, as they can't use their electronic devices or watch television. They simply don't know what to do.

If an EMP was to happen to this country, it would result in a whole bunch of people being lost for what to do. Most don't know how to prepare food over a campfire (I do), and most don't know ways to occupy/entertain themselves without their electronics (again, I do).

Unfortunately, we as humans now have become dependent on electronics, almost to the extent that their removal would result in our detriment.

And.......................to take out all our electronics wouldn't really be that hard. Just detonate a nuclear bomb 10 miles above the center of the USA, and the resulting EMP would take out most of the country.

An EMP isnt the power going out for a couple hours. It's the power is out for good. Cars would no longer work. No refrigeration. No more grocery store. No water or sewage. Prescription drugs or really any type of drugs would be a thing of the past. There would be mass death, and society would devolve quickly.

 

[Vastator]

An EMP isnt the power going out for a couple hours. It's the power is out for good. Cars would no longer work. No refrigeration. No more grocery store. No water or sewage. Prescription drugs or really any type of drugs would be a thing of the past. There would be mass death, and society would devolve quickly.

At least we'd be free of diabetics...

 

[Mac-7]

This thread is my OPINON.

Can the US Survive an EMP Strike?

An Electro-Magnetic-Pulse much the same as a solar flare will be devastating to all things in America and abroad. This pulse will melt transformers into huge piles of molten metal and melt transmission lines. The devastation will be massive. Power generation in the United States will suddenly be taken back to the 1850's.

Food production will stop. Storages will quickly spoil. Our ability to communicate will be gone as cell towers and above ground lines will melt or be irreparably destroyed. The lasers for our fiberoptics will be destroyed rendering all of our networks useless. Water purification will stop for our towns and cities as will sewage treatment plants.

One fifty kiloton nuclear device detonated high in our atmosphere above the US would create a cascading collapse of our power grids. Vehicle electronics would be melted and make most forms of transportation useless. Areas that are under sea level would again be inundated with water as pumping would cease.

The mass kaos will rip cities apart. Only rural areas will survive the mass destruction.

How do you think America can survive without electronics today?

Cascading Risks: The U.S. Is Vulnerable To An Electromagnetic Pulse Attack

The Ukraine invasion has brought renewed attention to the danger of nuclear war, but nuclear weapons could also be deployed in a tactical manner against energy and communications systems. An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack could occur by detonating a nuclear weapon in the mid-stratosphere.

www.forbes.com

An emp attack would be almost as bad as nuclear war

But russia and china would die too so I dont think it will happen

 

[San Souci]

If a person is old enough, think about what you did when the power went out in your neighborhood as a kid. Back in the 60's or 70's, when the power went out, we simply went outside and played. If it happened at night, we lit candles and read books. But, it wasn't really a big deal.

Now, think about what people do when the power shuts down in their neighborhood nowadays. They're lost. They don't know what to do, as they can't use their electronic devices or watch television. They simply don't know what to do.

If an EMP was to happen to this country, it would result in a whole bunch of people being lost for what to do. Most don't know how to prepare food over a campfire (I do), and most don't know ways to occupy/entertain themselves without their electronics (again, I do).

Unfortunately, we as humans now have become dependent on electronics, almost to the extent that their removal would result in our detriment.

And.......................to take out all our electronics wouldn't really be that hard. Just detonate a nuclear bomb 10 miles above the center of the USA, and the resulting EMP would take out most of the country.

I have Battery powered lights ,Battery Powered CD player , LOTS of Batteries , and lots of BOOKS.

 

[konradv]

An emp attack would be almost as bad as nuclear war

But russia and china would die too so I dont think it will happen

MAD saves us again!

 

[Couchpotato]

I have Battery powered lights ,Battery Powered CD player , LOTS of Batteries , and lots of BOOKS.

All of that would get smoked in an EMP. Except for the books anyway

 

[San Souci]

All of that would get smoked in an EMP. Except for the books anyway

No. They are not dependent on outside power grids.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The damage from an EMP only lasts until the chips are replaced.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

All of that would get smoked in an EMP. Except for the books anyway

Nope. Batteries would still work. Batteries are electro but don't have the magnetic.

 

[Couchpotato]

Nope. Batteries would still work. Batteries are electro but don't have the magnetic.

But the things you put them in wouldn’t be so what’s the point?

besodes the fact that having a bit of light to read by will be the least of the problems we have.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

But the things you put them in wouldn’t be so what’s the point?

besodes the fact that having a bit of light to read by will be the least of the problems we have.

Anything with a chip won't work until the chip is replaced. EMP isn't forever.

 

[Couchpotato]

Anything with a chip won't work until the chip is replaced. EMP isn't forever.

Where are we getting all these chips? And it screws up more than just computer chips. Society would devolve rather quickly. Lack of food, clean water, sewage, gas, elctdicty, comms etc. No refrigeration. How many people know how to preserve food even if they know how to grow it? hundreds of millions of people likely die inside 3 months if a country wide EMP happens.