Calm Thread: Does Trump/DeSantis 2024 Satisfy?

[Mr. Friscus]

Wow.... all I can say is

Let's have some fun!

Meh... I'll pass on all of the vanilla radical leftist talking points you are predictably reciting and get back to the topic or things more related to it. This is an extremely un-compelling, boring exchange at this stage IMO.

Oh, frankly, your OP was kind of desperate... Please don't make The Donald Mad, or he might split the party... and we'll lose.

Well, consider the source of who is defining "desperate". It's you... So, not very good credibility. Analysis of the next move, considering different factors... Yes, it's all "desperate". LMAO. You'd actually be an interesting discussion if you didn't assign every horrid label and mischaracterization to the person or ideal you're opposing at every turn. You're far too emotional for this stuff.

The J-6 assholes were trying to overthrow the government. Plain and simple.

I don't know about you, but when they went in without means, without guns, and knocked over garbage cans, broke doors, and moved podiums... let me tell ya, It was a CREDIBLE attempt, one that ranks up there with 9-11 and Pearl Harbor!!! LMAO. My are you easily scared.

They lost an election, they didn't like losing the election.

Neither do democrats. They instantly have become election-deniers by the modern definition when they lose. So if you can't address those, and only point fingers at a small portion that aligns with your political opposition... well, you're just another hack. *Yawn*

 

[JoeB131]

Media bias is a primary factor in voter suppression in this country and you are just trying to minimize the impact it has.
Clearly folks like you are a lost cause. Your mind is so warped that reality rarely filters in.

Yes, reality has a liberal bias. That's why the media is biased, because they can't pretend that global warming isn't happening or evolution isn't a thing.

Do you know what you are saying?

Clearly not

Trump has only one presidential remaining

Having DeSantis as his VP is no threat to trump at all

If being Trump's VP is such a great thing, then Mike Pence would be the frontrunner right now.

 

[JoeB131]

Meh... I'll pass on all of the vanilla radical leftist talking points you are predictably reciting and get back to the topic or things more related to it. This is an extremely un-compelling, boring exchange at this stage IMO.

You concession is duly noted...

Well, consider the source of who is defining "desperate". It's you... So, not very good credibility. Analysis of the next move, considering different factors... Yes, it's all "desperate". LMAO. You'd actually be an interesting discussion if you didn't assign every horrid label and mischaracterization to the person or ideal you're opposing at every turn. You're far too emotional for this stuff.

Sorry, man, if you want me to stop treating you as awful, stop acting like an awful person. I'm sure you must have some redeeming qualities.. Someone who like Mozart can't be all bad...

But what I see from the right isn't the optimism of conservatism we saw with Ronald Reagan (the first person I voted for), but just a list of white grievance politics, and misdirected grievance at that. If you want to know why you did so poorly on Tuesday (and you did do poorly) you can look at that.

I don't know about you, but when they went in without means, without guns, and knocked over garbage cans, broke doors, and moved podiums... let me tell ya, It was a CREDIBLE attempt, one that ranks up there with 9-11 and Pearl Harbor!!! LMAO. My are you easily scared.

9/11 never had the potential to overthrow American Democracy. Bush used it as an attempt to weaken it, but nothing Al Qaeda did changed things.
In a sane world, EVERY LAST REPUBLICAN should have voted to impeach Trump for January 6th, but the GOP has become a bunch of cowards. You know the kind of cowards that will say, "Please don't run an accomplished governor because our failed former president might get angry and split the party."

Neither do democrats. They instantly have become election-deniers by the modern definition when they lose. So if you can't address those, and only point fingers at a small portion that aligns with your political opposition... well, you're just another hack. *Yawn*

Um, not really. What election did we deny? 2016? We freely admit that because of the anachronism of the electoral college, Trump was elected despite losing by 3 million votes. I'll go one further. The Democrats never should have nominated Hillary, she was damaged goods.


But a substantial amount of Republicans STILL think 2020 was stolen from them.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yes, reality has a liberal bias. That's why the media is biased, because they can't pretend that global warming isn't happening or evolution isn't a thing.



If being Trump's VP is such a great thing, then Mike Pence would be the frontrunner right now.

No.....reality is foreign to liberals.
They cannot exist in reality....only in their fantasy.

Perfect example:

Mike Pence and Liz Cheney are decent human beings.

This isn't reality. No decent human being stabs their own party in the back like those two assholes have.

 

[JoeB131]

No.....reality is foreign to liberals.
They cannot exist in reality....only in their fantasy.

Perfect example:

Mike Pence and Liz Cheney are decent human beings.

This isn't reality. No decent human being stabs their own party in the back like those two assholes have.

Wow, seriously. I'm sorry, this is the problem with your guys... You have wrapped your entire sense of well-being into Donald Trump.

Most parties, when their president loses, move beyond him. But not you guys. No self-reflection at all.

You stumbled ass backwards into the Presidency in 2016, he's cost your party dearly ever since, and you just can't quit him.

 

[mudwhistle]

Wow, seriously. I'm sorry, this is the problem with your guys... You have wrapped your entire sense of well-being into Donald Trump.

Most parties, when their president loses, move beyond him. But not you guys. No self-reflection at all.

You stumbled ass backwards into the Presidency in 2016, he's cost your party dearly ever since, and you just can't quit him.

No. Clearly your judgement is in your ass.
Trump has proved over and over again that he's the only person that has run for the GOP in the last 25 years that we could trust. Both Bushes.....Romney.....McCain....they were all batting for the Democrats. That's why everyone is so against Trump. McConnell and the rest of the leadership are a bunch of egg sucking globalists trying to help install socialism in our government.
If somebody else comes along that we can trust then maybe we'll support them....but nobody has proven to be trustworthy.
DeSantis is still proving himself.....so it's too early to tell.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You concession is duly noted...

Happy to talk about some issues, just not 10 in one thread. It got ridiculous and boring. But, I figured you'd try to ego support out of it...

Sorry, man, if you want me to stop treating you as awful, stop acting like an awful person.

How have I acted like, or how am I, an awful person. Do tell.

But what I see from the right isn't the optimism of conservatism we saw with Ronald Reagan (the first person I voted for), but just a list of white grievance politics, and misdirected grievance at that. If you want to know why you did so poorly on Tuesday (and you did do poorly) you can look at that.

White grievance politics? You'd have to identify this. There's certainly people in today's society who are obsessed with race, and it's the left. Conservatives desire a post-racial world where we're determined by who we are as people, not by the color of our skin. The left and Democrats are the ones who want people to address the world through their skin color first, and apply that to their view about absolutely everything. As sad as it is, it fits the consistent racism that always springs from the left: Slavery, Jim Crow, Affirmative Action, CRT... all race-based policies and theories. Most people don't want to be involved with such divisive, disrespectful things that the left supports.

9/11 never had the potential to overthrow American Democracy. Bush used it as an attempt to weaken it, but nothing Al Qaeda did changed things.
In a sane world, EVERY LAST REPUBLICAN should have voted to impeach Trump for January 6th, but the GOP has become a bunch of cowards. You know the kind of cowards that will say, "Please don't run an accomplished governor because our failed former president might get angry and split the party."

Trump was calling for a peaceful protest and called to stop the violence, those are facts. So, you'll have to tell me how Trump was at all involved in January 6th... but be sure to put on your tin foil hat first.

Um, not really. What election did we deny? 2016? We freely admit that because of the anachronism of the electoral college, Trump was elected despite losing by 3 million votes.

LMAO! Look at your answer.. even in it you give excuses and in essance deny the legitimacy of the election, something Democrats say is anti-democracy.

But, yes, the Democrats/MSM denied a loss in 2016, and the DNC paid for disinformation in the Steele Dossier to be released through the media to create a fabricated hoax that Russia interfered in our elections when they didn't.. or if they did it was on behalf of Joe Biden, not Donald Trump. Trump was called illegitimate and questioned throughout his presidency by nearly the entire left. You know this, you'd have to have been in a coma to not.

The Democrats/MSM and Stacey Abrams denied the 2018 Georgia governor's race, said they didn't lose, and blamed it on mythical voter suppression.

The left denies elections, clearly.

But a substantial amount of Republicans STILL think 2020 was stolen from them.

I think you have to dig into what "stolen" means... literally or figuratively?

I can provide a ton of shady evidence that weird stuff happened that benefited Joe Biden in pivotal counties in key swing states. However, unlike you, I'm honest and believe for a big claim, you need big evidence. So I cannot say votes were changed or tallies were manipulated at a scale that would have changed the election. Fraud happens in elections, and I think it's a good thing to clean it up as much as we can (Oddly, the Democrats don't seem to want to).

However, it was absolutely metaphorically "stolen" by the joint efforts of the DNC, MSM, Big Tech censorhip, and the DOJ/FBI working possibly all the way up to Obama/Biden. They planted stories to manipulate the people against Donald Trump, and they censored true stories to manipulate the people to protect Joe Biden. Based on the Hunter Biden Laptop story alone, the exit-polling data showed that had Democrats known about the corruption unearthed on it, 5-7% wouldn't have voted for him, giving Trump the election easily.

So Yes, the election was "stolen" by the Democrats who colluded with the MSM, Big Tech, and the DOJ/FBI to act against their political opponents. There's plenty of smoking gun evidence to prove they all worked together, and if you don't know about it, you're in a bubble that doesn't want to know.

 

[JoeB131]

No. Clearly your judgement is in your ass.
Trump has proved over and over again that he's the only person that has run for the GOP in the last 25 years that we could trust. Both Bushes.....Romney.....McCain....they were all batting for the Democrats. That's why everyone is so against Trump. McConnell and the rest of the leadership are a bunch of egg sucking globalists trying to help install socialism in our government.

Uh, guy, that's not how Politics is supposed to work. Politics is compromise and consensus, not some Orange man-baby scowling in the White House.

If somebody else comes along that we can trust then maybe we'll support them....but nobody has proven to be trustworthy.
DeSantis is still proving himself.....so it's too early to tell.

You mean no one else has pandered to your crazy.

Guy, you all lost a midterm you should have easily won.

 

[JoeB131]

White grievance politics? You'd have to identify this. There's certainly people in today's society who are obsessed with race, and it's the left. Conservatives desire a post-racial world where we're determined by who we are as people, not by the color of our skin.

You mean you desire a world where your white privilege is protected. I mean, it's easy to call for a status quo when you have all the chips.

How have I acted like, or how am I, an awful person. Do tell.

Well, you are homophobic and transphobic, to start with.

The left and Democrats are the ones who want people to address the world through their skin color first, and apply that to their view about absolutely everything.

Because everything in this country IS about race. Racism is America's original sin.

As sad as it is, it fits the consistent racism that always springs from the left: Slavery, Jim Crow, Affirmative Action, CRT... all race-based policies and theories. Most people don't want to be involved with such divisive, disrespectful things that the left supports.

Jim Crow was a right wing policy. Now you are being intellectually dishonest. When the racist conservatives of the South no longer had the support of National Democrats, the Republican welcomed them with open arms.

As far as "most people". You guys put CRT on the ballot. You've been screaming about it for years. And yet, oh, wait, you lost the midterms you probably should have won.

Trump was calling for a peaceful protest and called to stop the violence, those are facts. So, you'll have to tell me how Trump was at all involved in January 6th... but be sure to put on your tin foil hat first.

Uh, he was the one who called the rally.
He was the one who got up there for hours riling those people up.
He's the one who waited hours before trying to stop them.
You don't get credit for trying to put out a fire you start.

LMAO! Look at your answer.. even in it you give excuses and in essance deny the legitimacy of the election, something Democrats say is anti-democracy.

My statement is factual. The Electoral College is by deign "anti-Democracy". Usually, it doesn't matter, the guy who wins the EC usually wins the popular vote. When it doesn't though, the results are pretty disastrous - Trump, Bush-43, Hayes. If we had straight up popular election, the Democrats would win by even bigger margins because you'd have more of a reason to vote in the Blue states.

But, yes, the Democrats/MSM denied a loss in 2016, and the DNC paid for disinformation in the Steele Dossier to be released through the media to create a fabricated hoax that Russia interfered in our elections when they didn't.. or if they did it was on behalf of Joe Biden, not Donald Trump. Trump was called illegitimate and questioned throughout his presidency by nearly the entire left. You know this, you'd have to have been in a coma to not.

17 Intelligence Agencies concluded that the Russians manipulated the election, and I suspect it was a lot worse than we've been told. Do you think if the Russians had manipulated the vote/hacked the voting systems, the government would tell us?

The point is, the information in the Steele Dossier didn't come out until after the election. Most of the Media ignored Trump's connections to Russia, because they didn't think he could possibly win.

The Democrats/MSM and Stacey Abrams denied the 2018 Georgia governor's race, said they didn't lose, and blamed it on mythical voter suppression.

There was voter suppression. 87,000 people - most of them black- were purged from the voter rolls and Abrams only lost by 52,000 votes. Do the math.

I can provide a ton of shady evidence that weird stuff happened that benefited Joe Biden in pivotal counties in key swing states. However, unlike you, I'm honest and believe for a big claim, you need big evidence. So I cannot say votes were changed or tallies were manipulated at a scale that would have changed the election. Fraud happens in elections, and I think it's a good thing to clean it up as much as we can (Oddly, the Democrats don't seem to want to).

Nope, because every time you guys "clean up" voting, it usually means purging poor and minority people from the voting rolls, whether it be what they did in Georgia in 2018 or what Jeb Bush did in Florida in 2000.

However, it was absolutely metaphorically "stolen" by the joint efforts of the DNC, MSM, Big Tech censorhip, and the DOJ/FBI working possibly all the way up to Obama/Biden. They planted stories to manipulate the people against Donald Trump, and they censored true stories to manipulate the people to protect Joe Biden. Based on the Hunter Biden Laptop story alone, the exit-polling data showed that had Democrats known about the corruption unearthed on it, 5-7% wouldn't have voted for him, giving Trump the election easily.

Oh, wait, you think the Hunter Laptops are real? Bwhahahahahaha.

Here's what turned people against Donald Trump.
400,000 dead from Covid.
65,000,000 jobs lost.
Riots in the streets. (Actually, that last one might have helped Trump, but it shouldn't have.)

People NEVER WANTED TRUMP to start with. His presidency was a failure, and that's why people voted him out.

So Yes, the election was "stolen" by the Democrats who colluded with the MSM, Big Tech, and the DOJ/FBI to act against their political opponents. There's plenty of smoking gun evidence to prove they all worked together, and if you don't know about it, you're in a bubble that doesn't want to know.

Yup, everyone was out to get poor Donald Trump. I'm surprised you didn't mention the Bilderbergers, Illuminati and Trilateralists.

 

[Mac-7]

Yes, reality has a liberal bias. That's why the media is biased, because they can't pretend that global warming isn't happening or evolution isn't a thing.



If being Trump's VP is such a great thing, then Mike Pence would be the frontrunner right now.

The other lib that I was replying to was saying that trump would not want DeSantas of the ticket with him

So your comment is off topic

 

[JoeB131]

The other lib that I was replying to was saying that trump would not want DeSantas of the ticket with him

So your comment is off topic

DeSantis has nothing to lose by running this year on his own. Clearly the establishment and right wing media is sick and tired of Trump. Whether they can find their backbones or not remains to be seen.

 

[Mac-7]

DeSantis has nothing to lose by running this year on his own. Clearly the establishment and right wing media is sick and tired of Trump. Whether they can find their backbones or not remains to be seen.

They will be equally sick of DeSantas after trump is gone

 

[Indeependent]

DeSantis has nothing to lose by running this year on his own. Clearly the establishment and right wing media is sick and tired of Trump. Whether they can find their backbones or not remains to be seen.

The media never loves a Republican.

 

[JoeB131]

The media never loves a Republican.

No doubt.

Journalists deal in reality.
Reality has a liberal bias.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You mean you desire a world where your white privilege is protected. I mean, it's easy to call for a status quo when you have all the chips.

Point out where white people are privileged by the law... I can actually point out multiple institutions/laws where white people are acted against based solely on their skin color.

Well, you are homophobic and transphobic, to start with.

Okay.. how so?

Because everything in this country IS about race. Racism is America's original sin.

I hope one day we can leave behind racist thinking like yours and accept people based on the content of their character. The sad thing is, you and the radical BLM left go around pointing fingers of how racist others are when you are the ones obsessed with and judging people based on race, and only race.

You're the racists.

Jim Crow was a right wing policy. Now you are being intellectually dishonest.

What was "right wing" about Jim Crow? It was the application of Democrat norms at the time (and sadly appear to still be, with your 'everything is about race' thinking)..
But you know those good ol' boy Democrats... the types that stood in front of schools to prevent black kids from attending. That was you guys.

Uh, he was the one who called the rally.
He was the one who got up there for hours riling those people up.
He's the one who waited hours before trying to stop them.
You don't get credit for trying to put out a fire you start.

So you can't prove he had any hand in it, you have to create connections. Trump calls a peaceful rally and violence occurs, so Trump caused and owns the violence. Democrats/BLM call for peaceful rallies and violence occurs, it's a "mostly peaceful protest". The only standards you hold are double standards, there's no credibility there.

The thing is, if leftists would be consistent on this issue, you might have a reason to complain. Trump raised the temperature, sure, despite calling for peace (something the left refuses to acknowledge). The Left has no problem saying Trump caused January 6th, but didn't blame Obama for the BLM activist who murdered multiple police officers in Dallas after Obama villainized police as racist... the left also didn't blame the crazed Bernie Sanders supporter who shot up the GOP softball game after Bernie labeled the GOP as murderers for not supporting his healthcare desires.

You guys commit the exact same rise in the temperature of rhetoric that causes violence, but then when it happens, you don't hold your people accountable, but then expect me to hold Trump accountable?

As for me, I'm consistent. Trump, Obama, and Sanders are all not responsible for people taking their claims and acting on them in vigilante style. You? Again, You have double standards.

My statement is factual. The Electoral College is by deign "anti-Democracy".

First, you're spouting more misinformation. A Democratic Republic is not "anti-Democracy"... and, America was never planned to be a mob-rule pure Democracy, as such a thing can become blatantly immoral and trounce on the rights of people simply because enough of the tyrants are on board.

Usually, it doesn't matter, the guy who wins the EC usually wins the popular vote. When it doesn't though, the results are pretty disastrous - Trump, Bush-43, Hayes.

How is that "disastrous"? LOL. I see you are unable to even think outside of your own political party.

17 Intelligence Agencies concluded that the Russians manipulated the election, and I suspect it was a lot worse than we've been told. Do you think if the Russians had manipulated the vote/hacked the voting systems, the government would tell us? The point is, the information in the Steele Dossier didn't come out until after the election. Most of the Media ignored Trump's connections to Russia, because they didn't think he could possibly win.

Gosh, Intelligence agencies with proven political activism concluded something that supported their political activism??? Wow, call me surprised! The constant claims were that that Russia interfered in our elections, and that Trump was some sort of Russian agent. Those are both not only misinformation, but purposeful disinformation by the Democrats, which was spread by the MSM while dissent was censored by Big Tech and investigated by the activist DOJ/FBI.

There was voter suppression. 87,000 people - most of them black- were purged from the voter rolls and Abrams only lost by 52,000 votes. Do the math.

Voter rolls are purged because people have left the state or people died. That's supposed to happen. Now, when the status quo happens, its "voter suppression"? That's a doozy...

Oh, wait, you think the Hunter Laptops are real? Bwhahahahahaha.

You think the laptop doesn't exist? Are you serious?

Here's what turned people against Donald Trump.
400,000 dead from Covid.
65,000,000 jobs lost.
Riots in the streets. (Actually, that last one might have helped Trump, but it shouldn't have.)

People NEVER WANTED TRUMP to start with. His presidency was a failure, and that's why people voted him out.

So let me get this straight:
When Democrats win an election, it's what the people wanted.
When Trump won, the people "NEVER WANTED TRUMP to start with"...

can you explain this dissonance? More double standards.. no credibility.

Yup, everyone was out to get poor Donald Trump. I'm surprised you didn't mention the Bilderbergers, Illuminati and Trilateralists.

All of what I said is true, he was acted against by the DNC colluding with the MSM, Big Tech, and the DOJ/FBI.

 

[JoeB131]

Point out where white people are privileged by the law... I can actually point out multiple institutions/laws where white people are acted against based solely on their skin color.

Why did you have to put in the qualifier "by the law"? You know damned well, it's how the law is applied, not how it is written.
Which is why Stop and Frisk is "just you, people of color".
Which is why pretextual stops are "Just you, people of color".

Ending racism doesn't mean, "let's pretend it's not there."

There was a study that showed that resumes with black names got 50% less return calls than resumes with white names.

What was "right wing" about Jim Crow? It was the application of Democrat norms at the time (and sadly appear to still be, with your 'everything is about race' thinking)..
But you know those good ol' boy Democrats... the types that stood in front of schools to prevent black kids from attending. That was you guys.

That's fucking retarded.. The Southern Democrats were CONSERVATIVES. They wanted to maintain a caste system that had existed forever. It was liberals and progressives who fought for change.

So you can't prove he had any hand in it, you have to create connections. Trump calls a peaceful rally and violence occurs, so Trump caused and owns the violence. Democrats/BLM call for peaceful rallies and violence occurs, it's a "mostly peaceful protest". The only standards you hold are double standards, there's no credibility there.

Yes, Trump organized, facilitated and riled up that crowd.
Nobody had to rile up the BLM protestors. They finally just got fed up. I'm surprised it took them that long.
Every black person lives in fear that they or their children might be the next George Floyd or Sandra Bland or LaQuan McDonald.

The thing is, if leftists would be consistent on this issue, you might have a reason to complain. Trump raised the temperature, sure, despite calling for peace (something the left refuses to acknowledge). The Left has no problem saying Trump caused January 6th, but didn't blame Obama for the BLM activist who murdered multiple police officers in Dallas after Obama villainized police as racist... the left also didn't blame the crazed Bernie Sanders supporter who shot up the GOP softball game after Bernie labeled the GOP as murderers for not supporting his healthcare desires.

BLM was not an attempt to overthrow American Democracy. January 6th was.
BLM was 10 years of racist stupid white people ignoring police brutality, up until the point black people threatened to break their stuff. Which is pretty much the only way you get white people to pay attention- threaten to break their stuff.

First, you're spouting more misinformation. A Democratic Republic is not "anti-Democracy"... and, America was never planned to be a mob-rule pure Democracy, as such a thing can become blatantly immoral and trounce on the rights of people simply because enough of the tyrants are on board.

Uh, no, guy, when you are creating a system that takes away the choice from the people and gives it to 538 elites, that's anti-Democracy.

Gosh, Intelligence agencies with proven political activism concluded something that supported their political activism??? Wow, call me surprised! The constant claims were that that Russia interfered in our elections, and that Trump was some sort of Russian agent. Those are both not only misinformation, but purposeful disinformation by the Democrats, which was spread by the MSM while dissent was censored by Big Tech and investigated by the activist DOJ/FBI.

Hey, Mike Pence today said it happened, and that he met with Putin and told him to knock it off.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/11/14/in_new_book_pence_tells_how_he_and_trump_went_our_separate_ways_148465.html

When Russian President Vladimir Putin tapped him on the shoulder at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in Singapore, Pence noticed an unwarranted familiarity “as if we were old acquaintances.” He also noticed photographers capturing the moment. “Mr. President,” Pence recalls telling Putin, “we know what happened in 2016, and it can’t happen again.” When Putin protested through a translator, Pence repeated his warning word-for-word.

Voter rolls are purged because people have left the state or people died. That's supposed to happen. Now, when the status quo happens, its "voter suppression"? That's a doozy...

Except - again, they only purged people of color, and more often than not, didn't bother to check their data.

You think the laptop doesn't exist? Are you serious?

Oh, I'm sure it exists... but I doubt it ever belonged to Hunter or the documents inside are real.

So let me get this straight:
When Democrats win an election, it's what the people wanted.
When Trump won, the people "NEVER WANTED TRUMP to start with"...

Trump didn't win.
He lost by 2 million votes.
The people didn't want him.

All of what I said is true, he was acted against by the DNC colluding with the MSM, Big Tech, and the DOJ/FBI.

Has it occured to you that is all these institutions KNEW he was a bad idea, he was probably a bad idea.

 

[Borillar]

I think it checks all the boxes...

Now, if you're going to just post some stupid one line post that doesn't address the issue, please run along.

The GOP's problem here (all political parties have them come election time) is that you don't want to alienate Trump too much so that he breaks away to run 3rd party. I don't put anything past "The Donald" (I voted for him twice), his greatest strength is also his greatest weakness, and he simply can't help himself. I get that he's a brash buffoon, but he has infinitely better policy than the Democrat party for human beings who live the United States.. so even if he acts stupidly and lets his ego get into drama... that's like 10% of the issue. It's policy.

So, if Trump's policy is legit, and Ron Desantis is clearly on board with shutting down "Woke" culture, why not have your cake and eat it too.. and run Trump/DeSantis 2024, and then DeSantis can run 2028 and possibly be reelected in 2032... 12 years of anti-woke presidential vigor.

Personally, I'd like Desantis yesterday... but Trump has a loyal Conservative following that would be required to defeat a MSM/Big Tech/Hollywood/Acadmia-backed Democrat party. Consider the end results, not any petty individual pride for a second.

Do you really think such a thing is even remotely likely to happen? Especially after the "DeSanctimonious" speech and the threats? I doubt that DeSantis is a spineless lickspittle like Ted Cruz and will bend over and take it and like it.

 

[Mashmont]

I think it checks all the boxes...

Now, if you're going to just post some stupid one line post that doesn't address the issue, please run along.

The GOP's problem here (all political parties have them come election time) is that you don't want to alienate Trump too much so that he breaks away to run 3rd party. I don't put anything past "The Donald" (I voted for him twice), his greatest strength is also his greatest weakness, and he simply can't help himself. I get that he's a brash buffoon, but he has infinitely better policy than the Democrat party for human beings who live the United States.. so even if he acts stupidly and lets his ego get into drama... that's like 10% of the issue. It's policy.

So, if Trump's policy is legit, and Ron Desantis is clearly on board with shutting down "Woke" culture, why not have your cake and eat it too.. and run Trump/DeSantis 2024, and then DeSantis can run 2028 and possibly be reelected in 2032... 12 years of anti-woke presidential vigor.

Personally, I'd like Desantis yesterday... but Trump has a loyal Conservative following that would be required to defeat a MSM/Big Tech/Hollywood/Acadmia-backed Democrat party. Consider the end results, not any petty individual pride for a second.

I don't think you can have two alpha males on the same ticket. DeSantis isn't the type to be a lap dog.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The best thing for the country would be for Trump to get his four more years, while DeSantis minds his business in Florida. Then DeSantis can continue the work of making American great and glorious again.

If DeSantis runs against Trump, it will only divide voters. The VP spot is a path to obscurity.

 

[JoeB131]

I don't think you can have two alpha males on the same ticket. DeSantis isn't the type to be a lap dog.

Really, he's spent the last six years sucking up to Trump. Frankly, the same can be said of most of the GOP. I mean, you'd THINK after he sent an angry mob to kill them, they'd all grow backbones or a pair of testicles, but no, they didn't.

The best thing for the country would be for Trump to get his four more years, while DeSantis minds his business in Florida. Then DeSantis can continue the work of making American great and glorious again.

If DeSantis runs against Trump, it will only divide voters. The VP spot is a path to obscurity.

Not really. Biden. Bush-43 and Nixon all became president after serving as VP. Gore, Mondale and Humphrey all ran for the top spot after being Veep.

Now, being Trump's veep is a thankless job, just ask Mike Pence. He might even send an angry mob to kill you!

Here's the thing about running Trump, he can ONLY serve the four years. That's a problem. The GOP needs someone who can serve the full eight years.