Calm Thread: Does Trump/DeSantis 2024 Satisfy?

[Mr. Friscus]

Running Trump again assures a Democrat victory.

Against Biden? I doubt that.

I think many tweeners were convinced by the MSM/Big Tech/DNC controlled flow of information to believe that Trump was causing horrible things in the world that didn't exist, and that Biden would be a kind, accepting soul who would improve everything that was just so awful under Trump.

Welp, it turns out Biden is just as, if not more, divisive and angry than Trump in regards to opposing voters, and things have become FAR worse under Biden because of the effects of his policies that seemed so innocent on the surface but have caused bad results for most voters.

I think people will realize this time around that mean tweets aren't really that important, and policy matters. And when policy matters, conservatism wins in the minds of most voters. That's why so much hyperbole and dramatics is used by the DNC/MSM/Big Tech cartel.. they have to convince the left that they are victims, that the GOP is a special kind of evil, and that our entire country will collapse if they lose.

 

[tyroneweaver]

I think it checks all the boxes...

Now, if you're going to just post some stupid one line post that doesn't address the issue, please run along.

The GOP's problem here (all political parties have them come election time) is that you don't want to alienate Trump too much so that he breaks away to run 3rd party. I don't put anything past "The Donald" (I voted for him twice), his greatest strength is also his greatest weakness, and he simply can't help himself. I get that he's a brash buffoon, but he has infinitely better policy than the Democrat party for human beings who live the United States.. so even if he acts stupidly and lets his ego get into drama... that's like 10% of the issue. It's policy.

So, if Trump's policy is legit, and Ron Desantis is clearly on board with shutting down "Woke" culture, why not have your cake and eat it too.. and run Trump/DeSantis 2024, and then DeSantis can run 2028 and possibly be reelected in 2032... 12 years of anti-woke presidential vigor.

Personally, I'd like Desantis yesterday... but Trump has a loyal Conservative following that would be required to defeat a MSM/Big Tech/Hollywood/Acadmia-backed Democrat party. Consider the end results, not any petty individual pride for a second.

this is the path trump shoulda sought
But he let his own ego get in the way and now no one will run with him

 

[M14 Shooter]

Of course it looks better to have low budget number...

The supplemental spending is accounted for, and therefore is not hidden, on the FY spending totals.

Of course, the Obama administration put it back on the main line ....

Obama asked for supplemental wartime spending as well.

Obama asks for $11.6 billion more in supplemental defense budget

U.S. President Barack Obama on Thursday sent a request to Congress for an additional $11.6 billion in supplemental war-related funding, which would include money to fight Islamic State militants and sustain high overseas troop levels.

www.reuters.com

You have been duped.

 

[mudwhistle]

My lack of judgement? BS. My judgement said there would not be a blow-out Red Wave in the 2022 Midterm Election. There wasn't. Looks like the Democrats will keep control of the Senate, and Republican might squeak out a victory in the House, with the least turn over in my memory. You were a "Red Wave" guy, unless I am mistaken. You should give up and support candidates, based on their character and commitment to the United States, it's constitution and rule of law, not their ability to bash their enemies with Twitter twaddle and attempt to overthrow free elections and their results. Your attacks on normalcy are weak and pointless, but all you have. I pity you, as you grow (or linger) a frustrated old man, into your twilight years.

The only reason that it appears that there was no Red Wave is because the Democrats are slow-walking the count in close races so they can manufacture or "Find The Votes" needed to steal more seats. Maybe they can find another 2 million ballots in somebody's basement.


The person running the election in AZ seems to have figured out how to break a bunch of voting machines in Red districts preventing Republicans from voting. Weird, huh? Weird how she's running the election and running for governor. Nothing suspicious here.



The only reason the Senate and the House are still in question rather than being decided by midnight on election night is because of unmarked mail-in ballots that they're, as we speak, trying to sneak into the totals when nobody's looking.
And you've already proved your idea of the constitution and the rule of law is up your ass.
FYI, I'm a retired Green Beret who has defended this country and accomplished things you never will......so save your pity for someone else who is falling victim to your ideology.

 

[White 6]

The only reason that it appears that there was no Red Wave is because the Democrats are slow-walking the count in close races so they can manufacture or "Find The Votes" needed to steal more seats. Maybe they can find another 2 million ballots in somebody's basement.
The only reason the Senate and the House are still in question rather than being decided by midnight on election night is because of unmarked mail-in ballots that they're, as we speak, trying to sneak into the totals when nobody's looking.
And you've already proved your idea of the constitution and the rule of law is up your ass.
FYI, I'm a retired Green Beret who has defended this country and accomplished things you never will......so save your pity for someone else who is falling victim to your ideology.

Good luck with that and on the recounts. Hint: If it comes to court challenges, get Democrat Party member lawyers without pride or prejudice. Republican Party member lawyers, just want the headlines from the courthouse steps or FOX NEWS but are too incompetent or self-serving to represent Republican in actual courts of law, instead of public opinion.

 

[mudwhistle]

Good luck with that and on the recounts. Hint: If it comes to court challenges, get Democrat Party member lawyers without pride or prejudice. Republican Party member lawyers, just want the headlines from the courthouse steps or FOX NEWS but are too incompetent or self-serving to represent Republican in actual courts of law, instead of public opinion.

Yeah.....only Democrat lawyers are trustworthy. *rolling eyes*

Speaking of popular opinion....the GOP is leading in the popular vote this cycle by millions. Apparently popular opinion has shifted against you...except where you're able to steal a few seats with bogus mail-in ballots.

 

[The Irish Ram]

^^^^ This is why the GOP is done. This kind of crazy has taken over the party.

The top donor so far is George Soros, who has contributed over $128 million to the midterms....
That's just midterms.

It's just a buddy helping out his country, right? You moron...

 

[White 6]

Yeah.....only Democrat lawyers are trustworthy. *rolling eyes*

Speaking of popular opinion....the GOP is leading in the popular vote this cycle by millions. Apparently popular opinion has shifted against you...except where you're able to steal a few seats with bogus mail-in ballots.

Who said anything about trustworthy? They are lawyers after all. I am talking competence proven in court on defending wild as Republican election claims or proving fraud. Republican lawyers did not show any competence, except on the talk show circuit.

 

[JoeB131]

A. I don't care about what people do in their own time if they're in charge. They might do things I disagree with, but as long as they're not forcing the populace to participate or support it, nobody should care.

So does that mean you'll start minding your own business when women decide to get abortions?

B. NATO deserved to be questioned, and Trump has butted heads with both Putin and Kim. Misinformation by you.

Oh, please, Trump thought Kim was awesome when he was stroking his ego. There's a reason the national defense establishment hated Trump. He was a menace.

C. Fiscal conservatives have a point, but considering what Biden is doing, Trump would be the better choice of the two.

Trump ran up 8 trillion in new debt in four years.. most of it being irresponsible.

So, regular GOP voters really aren't in the turmoil you're attempting to portray... like some MSNBC writer.

Well, actually they are... and I can see it on this board where a bunch of wingnuts are dumping Trump for DeSantis... I doubt you'd have felt obligated to start this thread if you weren't worried.

Of course you'd view Desantis as toxic.. he disagrees with you, and view anyone who disagrees with you as hateful, bigoted, etc. You're basically a child in this regard.

Uh, he's just doing the same thing you guys always do, attack marginalized groups

History won't be kind to those who support late term abortions and performing transgender surgeries on children..

Actually, in 50 years, Transgender people will be completely accepted. As for late term abortions - there are no late term abortions. If a pregnancy is brought to term, it is over. The proper term would be late trimester abortions, which are less than 1% of all abortions performed and almost always medically necessary.

Glad to hear you can admit that these are the sensible policies. You're welcomed to hop onto the Conservative train any time.

YOu first. You can maybe start by doing less talk and more action. If you are going to babble about family values, how about nominating good family men. If you are going to talk about national defense, nominate more veterans and less guys who found ways to avoid service. If you are going to talk about fiscal responsibility, stop cutting taxes for rich people who don't need the tax cuts.

It's easy to call for peace and harmony when those in the opposition have spent the past 6 years, especially the past 2, pushing narratives that paint Conservatives as worse than middle eastern terrorists, nazis, etc. The Democrats and their allies in the MSM have been throwing non-stop haymakers while using institutions to attack... and Conservatives are supposed to yet again take the high road and not retaliate?

Uh, guy, in the last two years, your side stormed the capitol and tried to overthrow an election. That's why you get the grief you get.

Ha. Hey, I used to like how GWB, Romney, etc. didn't drop to the left's level, but from what I can tell the left has no good faith and will never appreciate anyone who compromises in the name of unity. Until they do, the Democrats deserve a serving of the treatment they gave Trump, Kavanaugh, etc... and if anyone has a problem with that, maybe they should direct their concerns at those who have been so violent rhetorically, which would be the Democrats.

yes, we get it... your whole philosophy is about getting revenge for imagined slights. Fortunately, the voters realized that isn't actually a policy.

Nope... "Woke" doctrine dictates that if you don't support and celebrate trans, you're an evil bigot. Woke is about intolerance of opposing ideological viewpoints. "Tolerance" does not involve participation and celebration.

Nope, woke is about making you uncomfortable in your bigotries.

 

[JoeB131]

Against Biden? I doubt that.

Easily. If anything, Biden will have the advantage of incumbency in 2024.

Trump, on the other hand, is becoming increasingly unhinged.

I think many tweeners were convinced by the MSM/Big Tech/DNC controlled flow of information to believe that Trump was causing horrible things in the world that didn't exist, and that Biden would be a kind, accepting soul who would improve everything that was just so awful under Trump.

Except, of course, he did. Covid has largely been defeated. Unemployment is down. 10 million jobs have been added to the economy. Yes, inflation is up, but so are wages.

Welp, it turns out Biden is just as, if not more, divisive and angry than Trump in regards to opposing voters, and things have become FAR worse under Biden because of the effects of his policies that seemed so innocent on the surface but have caused bad results for most voters.

Really? Frankly, if anything, we have it much better today than we had it in 2020. Plagues, Riots, Mass Unemployment. I mean, I KNOW you guys went out there and tried to paint this dystopian picture, but most people looked out their windows and saw, "Yeah, things aren't that bad."

I think people will realize this time around that mean tweets aren't really that important, and policy matters. And when policy matters, conservatism wins in the minds of most voters. That's why so much hyperbole and dramatics is used by the DNC/MSM/Big Tech cartel.. they have to convince the left that they are victims, that the GOP is a special kind of evil, and that our entire country will collapse if they lose.

Um, did you not pay attention to what happened on Tuesday?

The only reason you guys made ANY gains at all was because of Gerrymandering.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

So does that mean you'll start minding your own business when women decide to get abortions?

If someone makes policy, I'll fight it if the policy is immoral. If they do it in their own time and don't attempt to enforce it onto others... I'll disagree with them but every individual has the right to a legal choice. You clearly don't understand the difference between fighting a policy vs fighting someone's actions.

Well, actually they are... and I can see it on this board where a bunch of wingnuts are dumping Trump for DeSantis... I doubt you'd have felt obligated to start this thread if you weren't worried.

Nobody is "worried", and odd that you'd try to put that wording in. It's discussing possible scenarios, and how to navigate elections.

Uh, he's just doing the same thing you guys always do, attack marginalized groups

Who is he "attacking"? Give me a direct example... because I guarantee it's not "attack", but just speaking against an ideology (as we all have the right to do).. and when someone speaks against an ideology you support, you get emotional, triggered, and have to label them as something evil instead of actually considering there are different ideologies on planet earth.

Actually, in 50 years, Transgender people will be completely accepted.

I'm talking about manipulating children into hasty irreversible surgeries. You keep on running from this and try to drag the entire trans community in. I might disagree with an adult's choice, but if they're an adult they can make it.

The proper term would be late trimester abortions, which are less than 1% of all abortions performed and almost always medically necessary.

Ah yes, the old "it happens rarely so there's no need to talk about it" logic. The fact that you have to make that qualifier means you cede that it's immoral when it happens. It's clearly infanticide, and needs to be made illegal. Only like 13% of people are cool with late trimester abortions.

Uh, guy, in the last two years, your side stormed the capitol and tried to overthrow an election. That's why you get the grief you get.

Certainly there was an unarmed riot a few years ago at the Capitol for multiple hours which involved moving podiums, breaking down doors, running, and flinging papers everywhere. One of the idiot rioters was shot.

Compared to the amount of violence "your side" performed throughout the summer of 2020, January 6th was a pillow fight, and it's hilarious to hear people say it was a legitimate attempt to overthrow an election LMAO. It was a bunch of unarmed morons in viking helmets joined by old women who were let in performing uncalled for violence, and they all deserved to be stopped and jailed (not put into massive solitary confinement like a jihadist is). You guys burned down buildings, cop cars, cities, ruined people's lives, caused 30-40 deaths and hundreds to thousands of injuries and hospitalizations.

You have a lot more to answer for than I do.

Nope, woke is about making you uncomfortable in your bigotries.

Nope, woke is those desiring their worldview be everyone's worldview, and when it's not they throw temper tantrums and attempt to censor people.

 

[JoeB131]

If someone makes policy, I'll fight it if the policy is immoral. If they do it in their own time and don't attempt to enforce it onto others... I'll disagree with them but every individual has the right to a legal choice. You clearly don't understand the difference between fighting a policy vs fighting someone's actions.

But that is EXACTLY what your side is trying to do. If you don't like abortion, don't have one. If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one of those either. But otherwise, mind your own business.

I do have a special level of contempt for a politician who preaches family values and then cheats on his wife with a porn star or ends up next to a boy-hooker and a pile of crystal meth.

Nobody is "worried", and odd that you'd try to put that wording in. It's discussing possible scenarios, and how to navigate elections.

Your OP is a lot of pearl clutching about how a Trump/Desantis fight would split the GOP, because you know Trump would blow up the entire GOP rather than go down as a "loser". If you guys were sensible you'd kick Trump to the Curb. He's done enough damage to you.

Who is he "attacking"? Give me a direct example... because I guarantee it's not "attack", but just speaking against an ideology (as we all have the right to do).. and when someone speaks against an ideology you support, you get emotional, triggered, and have to label them as something evil instead of actually considering there are different ideologies on planet earth.

The "don't say gay" law. that's attacking a marginalized group. It's a mean-spirited policy intended to marginalize LGBTQ people. But of course you think little Timmy is going to end up trans if his teacher even talks about gay people.

I'm talking about manipulating children into hasty irreversible surgeries. You keep on running from this and try to drag the entire trans community in. I might disagree with an adult's choice, but if they're an adult they can make it.

Nobody is manipulating children into surgeries, and if they are getting them at all, it's because a host of options has been reviewed.

Let's put a number on it. How many bottom surgeries were performed on children under the age of 17? Give me an actual number and we can talk about it.

Ah yes, the old "it happens rarely so there's no need to talk about it" logic. The fact that you have to make that qualifier means you cede that it's immoral when it happens. It's clearly infanticide, and needs to be made illegal. Only like 13% of people are cool with late trimester abortions.

No, I'm not ceding that at all... just pointing out your misrepresentation. They are rare and almost always necessary.

When a woman has to have a late trimester abortion, it's usually a pregnancy she actually wanted. She's probably already picked out a baby name and decorated a nursery and bought toys. And then the doctor tells her that the fetus is deformed, and will die within hours of birth or live in excuriating pain.

But of course, the religious crazies will tell her to have that baby because their imaginary sky friend says so.

Certainly there was an unarmed riot a few years ago at the Capitol for multiple hours which involved moving podiums, breaking down doors, running, and flinging papers everywhere. One of the idiot rioters was shot.

Yup, which is how you can tell it was white people involved, they only shot one of them.

Compared to the amount of violence "your side" performed throughout the summer of 2020, January 6th was a pillow fight, and it's hilarious to hear people say it was a legitimate attempt to overthrow an election LMAO. It was a bunch of unarmed morons in viking helmets joined by old women who were let in performing uncalled for violence, and they all deserved to be stopped and jailed (not put into massive solitary confinement like a jihadist is). You guys burned down buildings, cop cars, cities, ruined people's lives, caused 30-40 deaths and hundreds to thousands of injuries and hospitalizations.

Most of the deaths related to BLM protests were the cops overreacting, which is how we got here to start with. Frankly, I'm amazed by the RESTRAINT of BLM protestors. 92% of the demonstrations were in fact peaceful. I mean, I know the angry black people scared you, but the fact is, they had every damned right to be angry over decades of police abuse.

IF BLM was aimed towards bringing down the government, we'd have been in a lot of trouble.

Here's a crazy idea... Next time black people are legitimately upset about something, let's address it before they get angry enough to riot about it.

Nope, woke is those desiring their worldview be everyone's worldview, and when it's not they throw temper tantrums and attempt to censor people.

Nope, Woke is trying to deride people who act decently and with consideration.

Let's take the other bit of crazy you guys go on and on about. CRT. Yes, you guys don't like "Woke" CRT because it makes you feel bad about what your ancestors did. Well, sorry, buddy, we should feel bad about that. That stuff happened. It was bad to the people it happened to!

 

[mudwhistle]

Who said anything about trustworthy? They are lawyers after all. I am talking competence proven in court on defending wild as Republican election claims or proving fraud. Republican lawyers did not show any competence, except on the talk show circuit.

All of the claims have been proven......but it seems that no judge is willing to hear the case.....and the Supreme Court passed on it.

This reminds me of when you folks swore on a stack of Korans that there was no media bias. Today the White House openly admits they're colluding with the media. Eventually all of the election fraud will become something you cannot ignore...just like media bias.

 

[JoeB131]

All of the claims have been proven......but it seems that no judge is willing to hear the case.....and the Supreme Court passed on it.

This reminds me of when you folks swore on a stack of Korans that there was no media bias. Today the White House openly admits they're colluding with the media. Eventually all of the election fraud will become something you cannot ignore...just like media bias.

Kind of hard for the media to be objective with people who deny climate change, evolution or election results they don't like.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

But that is EXACTLY what your side is trying to do. If you don't like abortion, don't have one. If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one of those either. But otherwise, mind your own business.

Again, you don't understand what the difference is between fighting for policy and someone's choice under set law.

I do have a special level of contempt for a politician who preaches family values and then cheats on his wife with a porn star or ends up next to a boy-hooker and a pile of crystal meth.

You'll have to show me where Donald Trump ever "preached" some significant line of family values...

Your OP is a lot of pearl clutching about how a Trump/Desantis fight would split the GOP, because you know Trump would blow up the entire GOP rather than go down as a "loser". If you guys were sensible you'd kick Trump to the Curb. He's done enough damage to you.

Of course a Democrat would say that... he'd want a GOP Civil war so they have a better chance in 2024. We don't know how things will shake out, or if factors will change. I introduced an idea given what we know, and wow did you extrapolate a LOT from it.

The "don't say gay" law. that's attacking a marginalized group. It's a mean-spirited policy intended to marginalize LGBTQ people. But of course you think little Timmy is going to end up trans if his teacher even talks about gay people.

I shouldn't be surprised that you bit hook, line, and sinker the misinformation about that legislation. It prevents teachers from promoting ANY sexual/gender/lifestyle choice... gay or straight... trans or cis... in classrooms of children under 3rd grade. If you think teachers should be sharing their love lives or their sexual choices with their students, especially ones that young, I'd say you're creepy...

But, you don't care about what the law really is, so, why waste my time. Continue with your misinformation.

Nobody is manipulating children into surgeries, and if they are getting them at all, it's because a host of options has been reviewed.

Let's put a number on it. How many bottom surgeries were performed on children under the age of 17? Give me an actual number and we can talk about it.

Why just bottom surgeries? I'm also talking about irreversible hormone treatments that cause infertility and inability to orgasm. Just more attempts by you to run away from the total damage your argument costs... like with abortion and trans children. You can't stay on point, you always run away.

No, I'm not ceding that at all... just pointing out your misrepresentation. They are rare and almost always necessary.
When a woman has to have a late trimester abortion, it's usually a pregnancy she actually wanted. She's probably already picked out a baby name and decorated a nursery and bought toys. And then the doctor tells her that the fetus is deformed, and will die within hours of birth or live in excuriating pain.

I'm sure you know all about it, enough to speak about what it usually is. My guess is you have no idea, and are making things up on the spot.

But of course, the religious crazies will tell her to have that baby because their imaginary sky friend says so.

You are so triggered by religion it's not even funny. Nobody's bringing it up but you, and you can't stop attacking it. It lives rent-free in your head.

Yup, which is how you can tell it was white people involved, they only shot one of them.

LMAO.

Most of the deaths related to BLM protests were the cops overreacting,

You don't know that, you're making it up.

Frankly, I'm amazed by the RESTRAINT of BLM protestors. 92% of the demonstrations were in fact peaceful. I mean,

99.9% of people on January 6th didn't riot. Are you going to call it a peaceful protest? No, because you hold no standards.

I know the angry black people scared you,

You're the one who views them as second-class citizens, incapable of success, forever victims who can only succeed if they vote more elitist Democrats into office.

but the fact is, they had every damned right to be angry over decades of police abuse.
IF BLM was aimed towards bringing down the government, we'd have been in a lot of trouble.
Here's a crazy idea... Next time black people are legitimately upset about something, let's address it before they get angry enough to riot about it.

Yes, people who are violent and immoral are the victims... and the people whose lives they ended and ruined just didn't listen enough.
What's next.. are you going to say if the girl didn't want to be raped, she shouldn't have dressed like that? It's the same logic... man, you're messed up.

Nope, Woke is trying to deride people who act decently and with consideration.

And who would that be?

Let's take the other bit of crazy you guys go on and on about. CRT. Yes, you guys don't like "Woke" CRT because it makes you feel bad about what your ancestors did. Well, sorry, buddy, we should feel bad about that. That stuff happened. It was bad to the people it happened to!

If you go back and villainize people in history just to make yourself feel better in the comfort of the modern first world culture and sensibilities... it's nothing more than a quest of mental masterbation. Nobody says bad things didn't happen, but to lie and say the entire nation was founded on nothing but racism, sexism, etc. is a stupid thing to do, and ahistorical. Meanwhile, to say that if you lived in those times, you'd be a shining beacon above all others... well, it's something only a narcissistic modern leftist ego could take on...

 

[mudwhistle]

Kind of hard for the media to be objective with people who deny climate change, evolution or election results they don't like.

Climate change happens every day. In Montana if you don't like the weather.....wait 30 mins and it will change.
Evolution? WTF are you talking about, retard?
And save the complaints about election results because every time you folks lose you claim you were cheated. The only time it becomes illegal to question the results is when you SOBs win.

 

[JoeB131]

Wow.... all I can say is

Let's have some fun!

Again, you don't understand what the difference is between fighting for policy and someone's choice under set law.

You mean the blatant hypocrisy of the religious right? Sadly, we know it all too well.

You'll have to show me where Donald Trump ever "preached" some significant line of family values...

Sure, here you go.

Trump Preaches Family Values, Gun Rights at Alabama Campaign Rally

President's efforts seen as early test of his influence in runoff race that includes anti-Washington candidate Roy Moore

www.voanews.com

Of course a Democrat would say that... he'd want a GOP Civil war so they have a better chance in 2024. We don't know how things will shake out, or if factors will change. I introduced an idea given what we know, and wow did you extrapolate a LOT from it.

Oh, frankly, your OP was kind of desperate... Please don't make The Donald Mad, or he might split the party... and we'll lose.

I shouldn't be surprised that you bit hook, line, and sinker the misinformation about that legislation. It prevents teachers from promoting ANY sexual/gender/lifestyle choice... gay or straight... trans or cis... in classrooms of children under 3rd grade. If you think teachers should be sharing their love lives or their sexual choices with their students, especially ones that young, I'd say you're creepy...

And that would be fine if that's all it did. But little Sally talks about how she spent summer vacation with her two mommies, and the teacher can't talk about that, either. That's the problem with the "Don't say Gay" law. It can be really abused.

LGBTQ Teachers Struggle to Navigate Florida's So-Called 'Don't Say Gay' Law

LGBTQ educators in Florida describe widespread confusion over how much they need to hide their own identities, limit discussion of LGBTQ people or history, or notify parents if a student comes out to them.

time.com

Going into the new school year, LGBTQ educators in Florida describe widespread confusion over how much they need to hide their own identities, limit discussion of LGBTQ people or history, or notify parents if a student comes out to them. The new law raises critical questions over what constitutes a healthy learning environment, how to make schools safe for LGBTQ students, and what rights parents have to dictate their child’s experience in the public school system. And LGBTQ advocates warn that LGBTQ students—who already often experience higher rates of stigmatization and isolation—could face worsening mental health concerns. (Florida’s Department of Education did not respond to a request for comment on this story.)

Why just bottom surgeries? I'm also talking about irreversible hormone treatments that cause infertility and inability to orgasm. Just more attempts by you to run away from the total damage your argument costs... like with abortion and trans children. You can't stay on point, you always run away.

Thanks for admitting that bottom surgeries are rare. Hormone treatments really aren't that big of a deal. They have to be administered over a long period of time and have to be monitored.

I'm sure you know all about it, enough to speak about what it usually is. My guess is you have no idea, and are making things up on the spot.

I don't have to... I can just go to that beautiful bean footage.

Less than 1% of abortions take place in the third trimester – here’s why people get them

The reasons why people may seek out late-term abortions are complex and are often based on new medical information and delays caused by state policies.

theconversation.com

You are so triggered by religion it's not even funny. Nobody's bringing it up but you, and you can't stop attacking it. It lives rent-free in your head.

Except all these arguments about abortion and gay rights are about religion, and you know it.

99.9% of people on January 6th didn't riot. Are you going to call it a peaceful protest? No, because you hold no standards.

Sure I do... Black people asked NICELY for 10-25 years to do something about Police misconduct. Colin took a knee, there were peaceful protests. And.... nothing changed.

YOu can't ignore a problem for decades and then whine when it blows up on you.

The J-6 assholes were trying to overthrow the government. Plain and simple. They lost an election, they didn't like losing the election.

You're the one who views them as second-class citizens, incapable of success, forever victims who can only succeed if they vote more elitist Democrats into office.

Um, no, guy, pretending that racism doesn't exist doesn't make it go away. One party is committed to ending racism. Your party uses it to get really stupid white people to vote for more plutocracy.

Yes, people who are violent and immoral are the victims... and the people whose lives they ended and ruined just didn't listen enough.
What's next.. are you going to say if the girl didn't want to be raped, she shouldn't have dressed like that? It's the same logic... man, you're messed up.

Actually, the "victims" were George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Laquan McDonald, Tamir Rice, Alton Sterling... those are the victims...
Again, most of the people killed in the BLM protests were the protestors, not the "innocent bystanders".

You bitch about 30 people killed during the riots (again, a lot of them killed by police.)

In 2021 - 1140 people were killed by police. in 2020, that number was 1133. In 2019, that number was 1096

2021 Police Violence Report

Comprehensive review of killings by police in 2021.

policeviolencereport.org

This is a much more serious issue than, "I didn't get the result I wanted in an election, so let's storm the capitol."

If you go back and villainize people in history just to make yourself feel better in the comfort of the modern first world culture and sensibilities... it's nothing more than a quest of mental masterbation. Nobody says bad things didn't happen, but to lie and say the entire nation was founded on nothing but racism, sexism, etc. is a stupid thing to do, and ahistorical.

Why you might have a point. Those damned history teachers need to stop villainizing Hitler. Oh, wait, no.

This nation was founded on slavery and genocide. Those things happened, and frankly, they aren't covered nearly enough in school.

Meanwhile, to say that if you lived in those times, you'd be a shining beacon above all others... well, it's something only a narcissistic modern leftist ego could take on...

Well, it's a good thing I didn't say that, then. Clearly, the person I am now is the product of the time I lived in.


So, yeah, maybe I would have been an awful person if I lived back then... But we are talking about the people who actually DID live back then.


I'll give you just one example. In grade school, we are all taught that George Washington had wooden teeth. It's a cutesy story for kids. The reality is that old George had dentures that were made from healthy teeth extracted from slaves. Holy shit, that sounds a lot worse, doesn't it. If I learned that when I was a kid, I don't think I'd have liked George all that much.

 

[White 6]

All of the claims have been proven......but it seems that no judge is willing to hear the case.....and the Supreme Court passed on it.

This reminds me of when you folks swore on a stack of Korans that there was no media bias. Today the White House openly admits they're colluding with the media. Eventually all of the election fraud will become something you cannot ignore...just like media bias.

You folks, you folks my ass. I not one of the "folks" that said there is no media bias. There has been media bias since the first printing press newspaper, as that is what editorial viewpoint is, and there is nothing wrong with it, as long as there is other sources with their own media bias and the actual facts do get out.
As for the courts, and the 2020 that was shitty lawyers and lack of evidence that could be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt in that 60 day time period, most of it not proving enough to have changed the election, even now.

 

[mudwhistle]

You folks, you folks my ass. I not one of the "folks" that said there is no media bias. There has been media bias since the first printing press newspaper, as that is what editorial viewpoint is, and there is nothing wrong with it, as long as there is other sources with their own media bias and the actual facts do get out.
As for the courts, and the 2020 that was shitty lawyers and lack of evidence that could be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt in that 60 day time period, most of it not proving enough to have changed the election, even now.

Media bias is a primary factor in voter suppression in this country and you are just trying to minimize the impact it has.
Clearly folks like you are a lost cause. Your mind is so warped that reality rarely filters in.

 

[Mac-7]

Clearly Ronnie has no issue acquiescing, being he's America's premier beta male, but Ronnie's ego won't have it.

Donnie's threatened by Ronnie's potential.

Do you know what you are saying?

Clearly not

Trump has only one presidential remaining

Having DeSantis as his VP is no threat to trump at all