Breaking News - Israel launches ground offensive in Gaza

[MHunterB]

Rockets that have killed 24 in a decade do not justify ......Israel now is carrying out in Gaza. (offensive filth removed)

Please show us the rulings in 'international law' which support the extraordinary interpretation you've provided for us above. So, what IS the death threshold for conducting a counter-strike? Obviously in your "opinion" it's reaching a certain number of deaths which governs 'causus belli' - and not the deliberate lobbing of live ammo across international borders by organized groups which claim to control the originating territory.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

price for what?

First, for kidnapping the 3 boys, which was what started the escalation.

Second, for their arrogance and abusing of both Israeli and Palestinian civilians.

so when does israel pay the price for kidnapping the palestinian teen?

and is the 200+ dead and 1500+ wounded not payment enough?

how many palestinian lives and homes does it take to pay for an israeli teen?

So Israel should just do nothing while hundreds of missiles rockets and mortars rain down on civilian targets in Israel, that about right?

 

[toastman]

Death to Hamas

Death to Islamic Jihad

 

[TemplarKormac]

if that's your defense how do you think the average palestinian feels, having experienced fare more death and destruction at the hands of israelis than any israeli has felt at the hands of palestinians?

What do you think happens when you attack a vastly superior military force with rocket fire? Palestine brings whatever fate it deserves on itself.

would you ever be cowed into submitting just because the odds were against you?

This isn't Star Wars buddy. Instead of blowing up the Death Star, the Death Star blows you to kingdom come.

 

[ogibillm]

First, for kidnapping the 3 boys, which was what started the escalation.

Second, for their arrogance and abusing of both Israeli and Palestinian civilians.

so when does israel pay the price for kidnapping the palestinian teen?

and is the 200+ dead and 1500+ wounded not payment enough?

how many palestinian lives and homes does it take to pay for an israeli teen?

So Israel should just do nothing while hundreds of missiles rockets and mortars rain down on civilian targets in Israel, that about right?

they appear to be doing very well with their iron dome defense. one fatality. kinda gives them breathing room to take things a bit slower and methodical, don't you think?

 

[Statistikhengst]

Good advice, civilians have the right to stay in their homes and say **** you, you baby killing Zionists.

You got it, Zionist?

And this is what I really wonder about, that is why I started my thread questioning what kind of tv/radio gets broadcast in Gaza and the West Bank.

Lipush, is there anything you have that can verify this?

Hamas tells Gaza residents to ignore IDF warnings - Israel News, Ynetnews

Hamas Orders Gazans to Stay Inside When IDF Calls - Defense/Security - News - Arutz Sheva

Sure, they have the right to be stupid and let themselves be killed. You are really mental about this. Tsk, tsk, poor thing.

 

[TemplarKormac]

would you ever be cowed into submitting just because the odds were against you?

Never go to a losing battle.

*****.

Calling an IDF soldier a *****? Really, so tell me, who is it mopping the floor with Hamas right now?

You're the coward here. Your moral relativism makes me sick.

 

[Slyhunter]

It's ******* simple. Don't fire rockets into Israel. Then if Israel is as blood thirsty as you nuts think they are and attack you anyhow they will have to face the might of the US. But until you stop firing rockets into Israel you are on your own.

it's ******* simple. don't bulldoze people's homes and kill their families in airstrikes.

The rockets came before the airstrikes.
There might be an argument against some of the homes Israel has bulldozed. You don't solve it by firing rockets. You make me your enemy by firing rockets.

 

[TemplarKormac]

so when does israel pay the price for kidnapping the palestinian teen?

and is the 200+ dead and 1500+ wounded not payment enough?

how many palestinian lives and homes does it take to pay for an israeli teen?

So Israel should just do nothing while hundreds of missiles rockets and mortars rain down on civilian targets in Israel, that about right?

they appear to be doing very well with their iron dome defense. one fatality. kinda gives them breathing room to take things a bit slower and methodical, don't you think?

That's what happens when you have all the firepower. You get to choose how to annihilate your enemy once and for all. Unfortunately Israel has had enough of Hamas, so they will wipe them off the face of this world forever. The world will be that much more peaceful when that happens.

 

[ogibillm]

Never go to a losing battle.

*****.

Calling an IDF soldier a *****? Really, so tell me, who is it mopping the floor with Hamas right now?

You're the coward here. Your moral relativism makes me sick.

actually, templar, of everyone here i'm the only one that's not a moral relativist.

i don't care more about the lives of isrealis than i do about palestinians. i don't care for the slaughter of anyone, and i'm not going to pretend that it's okay to kill hundreds and wound thousands because of some rockets that were blown out of the sky before they hurt anyone.

 

[Statistikhengst]

so when does israel pay the price for kidnapping the palestinian teen?

and is the 200+ dead and 1500+ wounded not payment enough?

how many palestinian lives and homes does it take to pay for an israeli teen?

So Israel should just do nothing while hundreds of missiles rockets and mortars rain down on civilian targets in Israel, that about right?

they appear to be doing very well with their iron dome defense. one fatality. kinda gives them breathing room to take things a bit slower and methodical, don't you think?

No. This time, Hamas has gone too far. It's time to end this charade. Hamas must be completely destroyed, to the last man. End of story. It's in the interest of the arab civilians living in the land mistakenly called the PA to be rid of this terrorist threat. Israel is doing the Arab world a favor. Good for Israel.

 

[ogibillm]

It's ******* simple. Don't fire rockets into Israel. Then if Israel is as blood thirsty as you nuts think they are and attack you anyhow they will have to face the might of the US. But until you stop firing rockets into Israel you are on your own.

it's ******* simple. don't bulldoze people's homes and kill their families in airstrikes.

The rockets came before the airstrikes.
There might be an argument against some of the homes Israel has bulldozed. You don't solve it by firing rockets. You make me your enemy by firing rockets.

so israel wasn't the enemy when they were bulldozing homes?

that's the thing, there is so much history between the two that it doesn't matter. it only matters to the individuals, and individuals in gaza have known israeli oppression and murder their entire lives.

from their legitimate point of view the rockets are justified.

i get isreael's point of view, too, but you have to ask yourself if they're really solving anything by going in and creating more death and destruction than necessary, or if they're just perpetuating the status quo.

 

[ogibillm]

So Israel should just do nothing while hundreds of missiles rockets and mortars rain down on civilian targets in Israel, that about right?

they appear to be doing very well with their iron dome defense. one fatality. kinda gives them breathing room to take things a bit slower and methodical, don't you think?

No. This time, Hamas has gone too far.

how so? killing one man?

 

[irosie91]

*****.

Calling an IDF soldier a *****? Really, so tell me, who is it mopping the floor with Hamas right now?

You're the coward here. Your moral relativism makes me sick.

actually, templar, of everyone here i'm the only one that's not a moral relativist.

i don't care more about the lives of isrealis than i do about palestinians. i don't care for the slaughter of anyone, and i'm not going to pretend that it's okay to kill hundreds and wound thousands because of some rockets that were blown out of the sky before they hurt anyone.

ok so you proved that you are stupid------you endorse bombing of a country's
civilian population -----so long as that country can shove its population into
shelters and deplete its assets strugging to block the bombs at killer costs.

 

[eagle1462010]

God Speed IDF.

 

[Daniyel]

would you ever be cowed into submitting just because the odds were against you?

Never go to a losing battle.

*****.

No its called COMMON SENSE.
Shooting rockets when the result is ZERO would be a MASSIVE LACK OF COMMON SENSE.

 

[ogibillm]

Calling an IDF soldier a *****? Really, so tell me, who is it mopping the floor with Hamas right now?

You're the coward here. Your moral relativism makes me sick.

actually, templar, of everyone here i'm the only one that's not a moral relativist.

i don't care more about the lives of isrealis than i do about palestinians. i don't care for the slaughter of anyone, and i'm not going to pretend that it's okay to kill hundreds and wound thousands because of some rockets that were blown out of the sky before they hurt anyone.

ok so you proved that you are stupid------you endorse bombing of a country's
civilian population -----so long as that country can shove its population into
shelters and deplete its assets strugging to block the bombs at killer costs.

who said i approve? i just don't think it warrants the type of response israel has mounted.

 

[TemplarKormac]

*****.

Calling an IDF soldier a *****? Really, so tell me, who is it mopping the floor with Hamas right now?

You're the coward here. Your moral relativism makes me sick.

actually, templar, of everyone here i'm the only one that's not a moral relativist.

i don't care more about the lives of isrealis than i do about palestinians. i don't care for the slaughter of anyone, and i'm not going to pretend that it's okay to kill hundreds and wound thousands because of some rockets that were blown out of the sky before they hurt anyone.

i don't care more about the lives of isrealis than i do about palestinians.

Geez, you could have fooled me. Too bad you're wailing and mourning over the Palestinian dead, ignoring the atrocities that lead to their deaths which weren't by Israel's hand, but by a government who sought to use their deaths as a political tool. Nothing angers me more. Nobody should have to die, but if that is what it takes for Israel to be respected in the world, so be it. If you fire rockets at them, they will bomb you into the ground.

Daggum, and I thought the pro-Palestine crowd here in my hometown was bad.

 

[ogibillm]

Never go to a losing battle.

*****.

No its called COMMON SENSE.
Shooting rockets when the result is ZERO would be a MASSIVE LACK OF COMMON SENSE.

they may never win militarily. i get that.

but then, how long will the world put up with israel killing and maiming people by the hundreds?

not every battle is fought with guns and bombs.

 

[ogibillm]

Calling an IDF soldier a *****? Really, so tell me, who is it mopping the floor with Hamas right now?

You're the coward here. Your moral relativism makes me sick.

actually, templar, of everyone here i'm the only one that's not a moral relativist.

i don't care more about the lives of isrealis than i do about palestinians. i don't care for the slaughter of anyone, and i'm not going to pretend that it's okay to kill hundreds and wound thousands because of some rockets that were blown out of the sky before they hurt anyone.

i don't care more about the lives of isrealis than i do about palestinians.

Geez, you could have fooled me. Too bad you're wailing and mourning over the Palestinian dead, ignoring the atrocities that lead to their deaths which weren't by Israel's hand, but by a government who sought to use their deaths as a political tool. Nothing angers me more. Nobody should have to die, but if that is what it takes for Israel to be respected in the world, so be it. If you fire rockets at them, they will bomb you into the ground.

Daggum, and I thought the pro-Palestine crowd here in my hometown was bad.

so israel is blameless for the bombs they drop? they aren't responsible for who their weapons kill?

it may surprise you to realize that i also don't care more for the palestinians than i do the isarelis, i just find their plight far more sympathetic right now.