Breaking News - Israel launches ground offensive in Gaza

[TemplarKormac]

Israel should retake Gaza from Palestine. They should go on a full offensive and conquer the Gaza Strip. Show those people that they will have better lives as Israeli citizens than with a government who would use them as nothing more than fodder for political purposes.

 

[MHunterB]

And how would you feel when being attacked for a long time by terrorist organisations and neighbouring countries?

if that's your defense how do you think the average palestinian feels, having experienced fare more death and destruction at the hands of israelis than any israeli has felt at the hands of palestinians?

Gee, ogi - you seem intent upon giving HAMAS terrorists a pass because they are so incompetent at rocketry. Why is that?

Aren't HAMAS the elected government of Gaza?

 

[TemplarKormac]

actually, templar, of everyone here i'm the only one that's not a moral relativist.

i don't care more about the lives of isrealis than i do about palestinians. i don't care for the slaughter of anyone, and i'm not going to pretend that it's okay to kill hundreds and wound thousands because of some rockets that were blown out of the sky before they hurt anyone.

i don't care more about the lives of isrealis than i do about palestinians.

Geez, you could have fooled me. Too bad you're wailing and mourning over the Palestinian dead, ignoring the atrocities that lead to their deaths which weren't by Israel's hand, but by a government who sought to use their deaths as a political tool. Nothing angers me more. Nobody should have to die, but if that is what it takes for Israel to be respected in the world, so be it. If you fire rockets at them, they will bomb you into the ground.

Daggum, and I thought the pro-Palestine crowd here in my hometown was bad.

so israel is blameless for the bombs they drop? they aren't responsible for who their weapons kill?

Palestine started it. And it is Palestine who has no regard for human life whatsoever. Israel warned everyone in Gaza to evacuate, Palestine would rather their own people die in a hopeless cause by ordering them to stay in their homes and face death head on. How cruel.

 

[eagle1462010]

Israel should retake Gaza from Palestine. They should go on a full offensive and conquer the Gaza Strip. Show those people that they will have better lives as Israeli citizens than with a government who would use them as nothing more than fodder for political purposes.

It's the only way to stop rockets from Gaza.

The posters against them keep saying they are occupying Gaza, might as well make them happy and take the dang place for good.

 

[Slyhunter]

So Israel should just do nothing while hundreds of missiles rockets and mortars rain down on civilian targets in Israel, that about right?

they appear to be doing very well with their iron dome defense. one fatality. kinda gives them breathing room to take things a bit slower and methodical, don't you think?

No. This time, Hamas has gone too far. It's time to end this charade. Hamas must be completely destroyed, to the last man. End of story. It's in the interest of the arab civilians living in the land mistakenly called the PA to be rid of this terrorist threat. Israel is doing the Arab world a favor. Good for Israel.

If I had my way I'd follow your logic 100%. However, Israel is going to wimp out because they worry what other governments think. They will collapse the tunnels, find some weapon dumps, then leave to have it all happen all over again.

Of all the TV shows I've watched I've noticed the good guys major problem is they let the bad guys live. And the bad guys always comes back for revenge. The only solution is the permanent solution.

 

[ogibillm]

Geez, you could have fooled me. Too bad you're wailing and mourning over the Palestinian dead, ignoring the atrocities that lead to their deaths which weren't by Israel's hand, but by a government who sought to use their deaths as a political tool. Nothing angers me more. Nobody should have to die, but if that is what it takes for Israel to be respected in the world, so be it. If you fire rockets at them, they will bomb you into the ground.

Daggum, and I thought the pro-Palestine crowd here in my hometown was bad.

so israel is blameless for the bombs they drop? they aren't responsible for who their weapons kill?

Palestine started it. And it is Palestine who has no regard for human life whatsoever. Israel warned everyone in Gaza to evacuate, Palestine would rather their own people die in a hopeless cause by ordering them to stay in their homes and face death head on. How cruel.

and israel dropped her bombs anyhow.

who started it is irrelevant. where were these people going to evacuate to? gaza city has a population density more than 12 times that of chicago. where was safe?

 

[Slyhunter]

it's ******* simple. don't bulldoze people's homes and kill their families in airstrikes.

The rockets came before the airstrikes.
There might be an argument against some of the homes Israel has bulldozed. You don't solve it by firing rockets. You make me your enemy by firing rockets.

so israel wasn't the enemy when they were bulldozing homes?

that's the thing, there is so much history between the two that it doesn't matter. it only matters to the individuals, and individuals in gaza have known israeli oppression and murder their entire lives.

from their legitimate point of view the rockets are justified.

i get isreael's point of view, too, but you have to ask yourself if they're really solving anything by going in and creating more death and destruction than necessary, or if they're just perpetuating the status quo.

There is an argument for bulldozing homes that were built without a building permit.
If the Palestinians have a valid counter argument that's fine. But they shouldn't use rockets to argue it, period.
Rockets are never justified except in war and in war you have to expect your opponent to fire back. And you have to accept defeat if your opponent is more powerful than you. Or you die.

 

[TemplarKormac]

*****.

No its called COMMON SENSE.
Shooting rockets when the result is ZERO would be a MASSIVE LACK OF COMMON SENSE.

they may never win militarily. i get that.

but then, how long will the world put up with israel killing and maiming people by the hundreds?

not every battle is fought with guns and bombs.

When Palestine fired that first rocket into Israel, they made it deftly clear that they wanted Israel dead. So how do you react to that kind of statement? Do you sit there and take it, while the enemy instills fear in to the hearts of your citizens? Or do you defend yourself and your people? Hamas could use someone like you in their PR department.

 

[Daniyel]

*****.

No its called COMMON SENSE.
Shooting rockets when the result is ZERO would be a MASSIVE LACK OF COMMON SENSE.

they may never win militarily. i get that.

but then, how long will the world put up with israel killing and maiming people by the hundreds?

not every battle is fought with guns and bombs.

That is the point, they try to win and won before several fights over the world justification, but after this operation and the events it is clearly Hamas faults just like Hossfly said before, even the Arab world blame Hamas, yes Israel agreed to any proposal of ceasefire and Hamas still shooting rockets, so lets keep pissing off Israel and its not by insulting or not recognizing Israel, its with ******* rockets that made to kill people not to spread the peace and love of the Islam.

 

[Slyhunter]

actually, templar, of everyone here i'm the only one that's not a moral relativist.

i don't care more about the lives of isrealis than i do about palestinians. i don't care for the slaughter of anyone, and i'm not going to pretend that it's okay to kill hundreds and wound thousands because of some rockets that were blown out of the sky before they hurt anyone.

ok so you proved that you are stupid------you endorse bombing of a country's
civilian population -----so long as that country can shove its population into
shelters and deplete its assets strugging to block the bombs at killer costs.

who said i approve? i just don't think it warrants the type of response israel has mounted.

What kind of response would it warrant in your world?

 

[eagle1462010]

so israel is blameless for the bombs they drop? they aren't responsible for who their weapons kill?

Palestine started it. And it is Palestine who has no regard for human life whatsoever. Israel warned everyone in Gaza to evacuate, Palestine would rather their own people die in a hopeless cause by ordering them to stay in their homes and face death head on. How cruel.

and israel dropped her bombs anyhow.

who started it is irrelevant.

LOL. Now it's irrelevant who started it...............

If a little kid keeps punching a big kid, who says stop it over and over again, eventually the big kid is going to knock the living hell out of that little kid.

The little kid is at fault, because he wouldn't stop.

LIGHTS OUT.................

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Zionists have killed 50 children so far in the pogrom they carry out in Gaza, so sad the truth is a matter you simply have no eyes to see or ears to hear. So pathetic being a Zionist, the lowest life form that is and one deaf and dumb and blind to truth.

Targeting civilians in a land you occupy is not self defense..... (hateful filth which followed has been removed)

You're so right about that, l'il sherriKKKins! Those HAMAS heroes whose antics have you bouncing on your cucumber have been caught targeting civilians within Israel time and again........

 

[Slyhunter]

so israel is blameless for the bombs they drop? they aren't responsible for who their weapons kill?

Palestine started it. And it is Palestine who has no regard for human life whatsoever. Israel warned everyone in Gaza to evacuate, Palestine would rather their own people die in a hopeless cause by ordering them to stay in their homes and face death head on. How cruel.

and israel dropped her bombs anyhow.

who started it is irrelevant. where were these people going to evacuate to? gaza city has a population density more than 12 times that of chicago. where was safe?

Egypt, Jordan, lots of muslim countries for muzzies to live in.

 

[Daniyel]

So we have the 'Unfair Advantage' that lil **** [MENTION=44777]Snouter[/MENTION] was talking about, makes it even more wise to attack Israel who said "Lets talk and negotiate" instead of actually talking.

 

[MHunterB]

would you ever be cowed into submitting just because the odds were against you?

The only 'submitting' HAMAS would have to do is leave the Israeli people alone and not fire any more rockets at them. HAMAS has a very clear intent not simply to create a 'Palestinian' state (Islamist theocratic dictatorship) - but to do so on every square inch of what is Israel, in complete defiance of the UN rulings which established the right to a 'Palestinian' state in the first place.

Somehow, I cannot distort reality far enough to justify HAMAS' continuing attempts to destroy its neighboring state. Evidently you can......

 

[TemplarKormac]

so israel is blameless for the bombs they drop? they aren't responsible for who their weapons kill?

Palestine started it. And it is Palestine who has no regard for human life whatsoever. Israel warned everyone in Gaza to evacuate, Palestine would rather their own people die in a hopeless cause by ordering them to stay in their homes and face death head on. How cruel.

and israel dropped her bombs anyhow.

who started it is irrelevant. where were these people going to evacuate to? gaza city has a population density more than 12 times that of chicago. where was safe?

Give it a rest.

Palestine was part of multi nation contingents that failed to end Israel in the Palestine War, and the 6 day war. The intifadas were complete disasters as well. Israel has withstood multiple attempts to end it's existence. Palestine hasn't. In fact, because of their actions, they are endangering their own existence. They have been on the losing end of four wars, and as we speak on the way to a crushing defeat in a fifth one. Each time Israel has made clear that they are there to stay and anyone who threatens their existence will be met with all deliberate force.

 

[ogibillm]

Palestine started it. And it is Palestine who has no regard for human life whatsoever. Israel warned everyone in Gaza to evacuate, Palestine would rather their own people die in a hopeless cause by ordering them to stay in their homes and face death head on. How cruel.

and israel dropped her bombs anyhow.

who started it is irrelevant.

LOL. Now it's irrelevant who started it...............

If a little kid keeps punching a big kid, who says stop it over and over again, eventually the big kid is going to knock the living hell out of that little kid.

The little kid is at fault, because he wouldn't stop.

LIGHTS OUT.................

i hope you don't have kids.

 

[teddyearp]

Yes, thank you, I brought other sources as well

didn't exactly say what you said it did, though, did it?

?

Stop feeding the Troll.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Pali logic:

"We hate the jews, we are going to march them into the sea. Anytime we can kill a Jew, we do. We will attack their buses, their cafes, we will slit their children's throats, we will shoot rockets at Israel, but how dare they respond!!!"


Palis are like 6 year old children. Really.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Don't know any muzzies, must be a new Zionist hate word, all you baby killing scum are filled with is hate.

Palestine started it. And it is Palestine who has no regard for human life whatsoever. Israel warned everyone in Gaza to evacuate, Palestine would rather their own people die in a hopeless cause by ordering them to stay in their homes and face death head on. How cruel.

and israel dropped her bombs anyhow.

who started it is irrelevant. where were these people going to evacuate to? gaza city has a population density more than 12 times that of chicago. where was safe?

Egypt, Jordan, lots of muslim countries for muzzies to live in.