Blinded by Hate

[GreenBean]

Disagrees with what, equal rights? If you don't "agree" with equal rights for blacks would you be a racist? Bigot tends to be too broad. Shall we make up a new one? How's "Gayist"?

How about you just admit that I'm right.

cherry pick all you want, but you know hating broccoli would make me a subcat of xenophobe

Nobody is "cherry picking". I gave you the Merriam Webster definition. How about Oxford?

an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

Dictionary.com

unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

And the "phobia" most often referred to is those that fear the gay in themselves, not others.

Homosexual propaganda has been around for many years, the spark that ignited their present day stranglehold however was a brilliant book **After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays .....

This powerfully persuasive, perverse and popular book within the gay community presents an impassioned plea, a call to arms if you will for homosexual activists to implement an aggressive, concerted and organized campaign to mold public perceptions. The book further lays out a blueprint, a methodology that has been rigidly implemented and enforced over the past 2 decades .

Their rationalization for launching such a campaign is that people who do not agree with, or adhere to the Gay Agenda are "bigots, haters, or ignorants". The book further attempts to justify gay activists use of unscrupulous tactics , mass deceit, brainwashing, lying and malicious slander, blackmail, intimidation and violence. Kirk and Madsens book states the following ....

"All sexual morality should be abolished" (pages 64 to 67)

Homosexual agenda can succeed by "jamming" and "confusing" adversaries, so as to block or counteract the "rewarding of prejudice" (page 153);

All opposing disagreements to homosexual behavior is rooted in "Homophobia, Homohatred, and Prejudice" (page 112)

A media campaign should portray only the most favorable side of gays (page 170);

Discourage anti-gay harassment by linking and calling all those that have opposing opinions to latent homosexuality (i.e., call people homophobic) (page 227)

It is acceptable to call people "Homophobic" or "Haters" if they do not agree 100% with the gay agenda views, opinions, or behavior. (page 23)


Gay Media Influences

 

[Seawytch]

You don't even need a dictionary. Classic homophobia on display in the post above.

 

[Howey]

Disagrees with what, equal rights? If you don't "agree" with equal rights for blacks would you be a racist? Bigot tends to be too broad. Shall we make up a new one? How's "Gayist"?

How about you just admit that I'm right.

cherry pick all you want, but you know hating broccoli would make me a subcat of xenophobe

Nobody is "cherry picking". I gave you the Merriam Webster definition. How about Oxford?

an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

Dictionary.com

unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

And the "phobia" most often referred to is those that fear the gay in themselves, not others.

Homophobia is based upon ignorance. Obviously, until educated the homophobes won't realize why they're so scared of the gays.

Since the majority of homophobes have been molested as children, we can only feel sad for them and pray they embrace their inner gay self.

 

[koshergrl]

How about you just admit that I'm right.

cherry pick all you want, but you know hating broccoli would make me a subcat of xenophobe

Nobody is "cherry picking". I gave you the Merriam Webster definition. How about Oxford?

an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

Dictionary.com

unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

And the "phobia" most often referred to is those that fear the gay in themselves, not others.

Homophobia is based upon ignorance. Obviously, until educated the homophobes won't realize why they're so scared of the gays.

Since the majority of homophobes have been molested as children, we can only feel sad for them and pray they embrace their inner gay self.

Oh so you think that homosexual molestation causes homosexuality. Got it.

 

[Howey]

Nobody is "cherry picking". I gave you the Merriam Webster definition. How about Oxford?

an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

Dictionary.com

unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

And the "phobia" most often referred to is those that fear the gay in themselves, not others.

Homophobia is based upon ignorance. Obviously, until educated the homophobes won't realize why they're so scared of the gays.

Since the majority of homophobes have been molested as children, we can only feel sad for them and pray they embrace their inner gay self.

Oh so you think that homosexual molestation causes homosexuality. Got it.

No. I was mocking you, dipstick. Although a large percentage of homophobes have latent gay tendencies and desires, it's mostly heterosexuals who feel the need to control children by molesting them. Unfortunately, it is those who've been molested who do the same thing when older.

As someone who's been gay bashed by 5 older teenaged males, I can attest to have met a homophobe. Since then, I've learned never respond to taunts and jeers. Sometimes they're hoping to provoke a reaction to justify their coming over and swinging on ya.

Define "gay bashed".

It what the OB did to your ass when your momma pooped you out.

lol...that was a spelling mistake, but I kinda like it better.

 

[koshergrl]

So you think homosexuality is perpetuated by molestation.

Well I think that is certainly true some of the time. Not always. Sometimes they're born with the propensity towards homosexuality. But there certainly seems to be a trend towards pederasty amongst gay males.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Disagrees with what, equal rights? If you don't "agree" with equal rights for blacks would you be a racist? Bigot tends to be too broad. Shall we make up a new one? How's "Gayist"?

How about you just admit that I'm right.

cherry pick all you want, but you know hating broccoli would make me a subcat of xenophobe

Nobody is "cherry picking". I gave you the Merriam Webster definition. How about Oxford?

an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

Dictionary.com

unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

And the "phobia" most often referred to is those that fear the gay in themselves, not others.

So you haven't met anyone that actually is a homophobe. No one ran off or had any fear reaction what so ever.

link

 

[Two Thumbs]

You don't even need a dictionary. Classic homophobia on display in the post above.

except it isn't phobia

it's disagreence

 

[Two Thumbs]

How about you just admit that I'm right.

cherry pick all you want, but you know hating broccoli would make me a subcat of xenophobe

Nobody is "cherry picking". I gave you the Merriam Webster definition. How about Oxford?

an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

Dictionary.com

unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

And the "phobia" most often referred to is those that fear the gay in themselves, not others.

Homophobia is based upon ignorance. Obviously, until educated the homophobes won't realize why they're so scared of the gays.

Since the majority of homophobes have been molested as children, we can only feel sad for them and pray they embrace their inner gay self.

then it's fear of the unkown, which is an actual fear, and anyone with that phobia would have a long list of fears.

link

 

[Two Thumbs]

Homophobia is based upon ignorance. Obviously, until educated the homophobes won't realize why they're so scared of the gays.

Since the majority of homophobes have been molested as children, we can only feel sad for them and pray they embrace their inner gay self.

Oh so you think that homosexual molestation causes homosexuality. Got it.

No. I was mocking you, dipstick. Although a large percentage of homophobes have latent gay tendencies and desires, it's mostly heterosexuals who feel the need to control children by molesting them. Unfortunately, it is those who've been molested who do the same thing when older.

As someone who's been gay bashed by 5 older teenaged males, I can attest to have met a homophobe. Since then, I've learned never respond to taunts and jeers. Sometimes they're hoping to provoke a reaction to justify their coming over and swinging on ya.

Define "gay bashed".

It what the OB did to your ass when your momma pooped you out.

lol...that was a spelling mistake, but I kinda like it better.

link

 

[Two Thumbs]

So you think homosexuality is perpetuated by molestation.

Well I think that is certainly true some of the time. Not always. Sometimes they're born with the propensity towards homosexuality. But there certainly seems to be a trend towards pederasty amongst gay males.

link

 

[Howey]

So you think homosexuality is perpetuated by molestation.

Well I think that is certainly true some of the time. Not always. Sometimes they're born with the propensity towards homosexuality. But there certainly seems to be a trend towards pederasty amongst gay males.

I didn't say that, did I?

Did you drink some of the same stupid Better Than did?

If anything, heterosexuality perpetuates molestation since the greatest majority of molesters are heterosexuals. Sexual preference has little or nothing to do with the act of molestation.


Educate yourself:

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women.
In a similar fashion, gay people have often been portrayed as a threat to children. Back in 1977, when Anita Bryant campaigned successfully to repeal a Dade County (FL) ordinance prohibiting anti-gay discrimination, she named her organization "Save Our Children," and warned that "a particularly deviant-minded [gay] teacher could sexually molest children" (Bryant, 1977, p. 114). [Bibliographic references are on a different web page]

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this canard.

It has also been raised in connection with scandals about the Catholic church's attempts to cover up the abuse of young males by priests. Indeed, the Vatican's early response to the 2002 revelations of widespread Church cover-ups of sexual abuse by priests was to declare that gay men should not be ordained.


 
Public belief in 
the stereotype		 The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner."1
By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters.

Consistent with these findings, Gallup polls have found that an increasing number of Americans would allow gay people to be elementary school teachers. For example, the proportion was 54% in 2005, compared to 27% in 1977. 
 

Examining the 
Research		 Even though most Americans don't regard gay people as child molesters, confusion remains widespread in this area. To understand the facts, it is important to examine the results of scientific research. However, when we evaluate research on child molestation, our task is complicated by several problems.
One problem is that none of the studies in this area have obtained data from a probability sample, that is, a sample that can be assumed to be representative of the population of all child molesters. Rather, most research has been conducted only with convicted perpetrators or with pedophiles who sought professional help. Consequently, they may not accurately describe child molesters who have never been caught or have not sought treatment. 
 

Terminology		 A second problem is that the terminology used in this area is often confusing and can even be misleading. We can begin to address that problem by defining some basic terms.
Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty.

Whereas pedophilia and hebephilia refer to psychological propensities, child molestation and child sexual abuse are used to describe actual sexual contact between an adult and someone who has not reached the legal age of consent. In this context, the latter individual is referred to as a child, even though he or she may be a teenager.

Although the terms are not always applied consistently, it is useful to distinguish between pedophiles/hebephiles and child molesters/abusers. Pedophilia and hebephilia are diagnostic labels that refer to psychological attractions. Not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually molest children; an adult can be attracted to children or adolescents without ever actually engaging in sexual contact with them.

Child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to actions, and don't imply a particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator. Not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles or hebephiles; in some cases, the perpetrator has other motives for his or her actions and does not manifest an ongoing pattern of sexual attraction to children.

Thus, not all child sexual abuse is perpetrated by pedophiles (or hebephiles) and not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually commit abuse. Consequently, it is important to use terminology carefully.

Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation. 
 

Typologies of 
Offenders		 The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.
Over the years, this fact has been incorporated into various systems for categorizing child molesters. For example, Finkelhor and Araji (1986) proposed that perpetrators' sexual attractions should be conceptualized as ranging along a continuum – from exclusive interest in children at one extreme, to exclusive interest in adult partners at the other end.

Typologies of offenders have often included a distinction between those with an enduring primary preference for children as sexual partners and those who have established age-appropriate relationships but become sexually involved with children under unusual circumstances of extreme stress. Perpetrators in the first category – those with a more or less exclusive interest in children – have been labeled fixated. Fixation means "a temporary or permanent arrestment of psychological maturation resulting from unresolved formative issues which persist and underlie the organization of subsequent phases of development" (Groth & Birnbaum, 1978, p. 176). Many clinicians view fixated offenders as being "stuck" at an early stage of psychological development.

By contrast, other molesters are described as regressed. Regression is "a temporary or permanent appearance of primitive behavior after more mature forms of expression had been attained, regardless of whether the immature behavior was actually manifested earlier in the individual's development" (Groth & Birnbaum, 1978, p. 177). Regressed offenders have developed an adult sexual orientation but under certain conditions (such as extreme stress) they return to an earlier, less mature psychological state and engage in sexual contact with children.

Some typologies of child molesters divide the fixation-regression distinction into multiple categories, and some include additional categories as well (e.g., Knight, 1989).

For the present discussion, the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women.

Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180). 
 

Other 
Approaches		 Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% of cases in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994).
In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes. The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989).

[B]In summary, each of these studies failed to support the hypothesis that homosexual males are more likely than heterosexual men to molest children or to be sexually attracted to children or adolescents[/B]. 
 

The Mainstream View		

Reflecting the results of these and other studies, as well as clinical experience, the mainstream view among researchers and professionals who work in the area of child sexual abuse is that homosexual and bisexual men do not pose any special threat to children. For example, in one review of the scientific literature, noted authority Dr. A. Nicholas Groth wrote: 

Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual (Groth & Gary, 1982, p. 147).

In a later literature review, Dr. Nathaniel McConaghy (1998) similarly cautioned against confusing homosexuality with pedophilia. He noted, "The man who offends against prepubertal or immediately postpubertal boys is typically not sexually interested in older men or in women" (p. 259).

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Is it that we hate homosexuals or we fear them? Which is it?

Personally I don't hate nor fear homosexuals. I do however feel that their lifestyle is abominable.

 

[koshergrl]

So you think homosexuality is perpetuated by molestation.

Well I think that is certainly true some of the time. Not always. Sometimes they're born with the propensity towards homosexuality. But there certainly seems to be a trend towards pederasty amongst gay males.

link

Gotta run for a bit but CDC states rates of HIV infection among underage "male having sex with males" increasing..which is of course a direct result of pederasty.

Also there's another thread about the statistically insane numbers of homosexuals (at a Gay Pride parade...) who state they did not identify as homosexual until after being molested...which is, of course, pederasty.

Gotta run.

 

[Yurt]

Homosexuality is the hypothesized to sometimes be the result of Childhood Traumatic experiences, frequently molestation by an older Same Sex relative or what have you . Tell me little boy - this "friend" did he touch you in any "funny" places .

Question #2 - did you invent that whole scenario - because you're a Gay trying to make a point , or are you a sock puppet of seahag ?

it is a true story and it is not about me. nor will i divulge any other information about the person i referred.

your attitude about it is pathetic and disgusting. you're simply a twisted individual with so much hate, you're probably projecting the whole post so you have to deal with your own issues.

Oh okay, so it's a true story , but not about yourself. So are you Lying now - or were you lying then When you said ....

....yeah...myself. i was a homophobe as a teenager. i hated them and would make fun of them mercilessly, especially if with a group of friends.

Basically - I was right - you invented the Whole Story. Gotcha

okay retard...yeah...me telling a story about someone else is really about me.

everything you just highlighted is me talking about another person and you somehow think this is proof i'm lying or talking about myself?????



retard does as retard rolls....

 

[007]

In the grand scheme of things, it matters not.


Even Mad-Vlad can't stop gay acceptance, only delay the inevitable. Vladimir Putin is going to die.

Nature can. Disgust is the natural reaction to such a perverted, vulgar, sexual deviancy.

 

[MDiver]

My personal belief regarding homosexuals, is that an individual is born with whatever sexual orientation they are programmed to be and should be allowed to be that individual.....up to a point. If your sexual desires are for animals or children, those are completely unacceptable behaviors for which we have laws to punish those who act in such a manner.
I do find the term homophobia, which was concocted by the gay community, completely false and misleading. There is not and never has been an individual with a "phobia" of gays. A phobia is an overwhelming or extreme fear of some thing, situation, or activity. My daughter has a phobia of spiders and as such, runs from a room screaming if she encounters one and won't go back in until the creature has been appropriately dispatched.
A more accurate term for those who harbor a dislike for the gay community, would be something like homorepulsion, homodisgust, homorepellant, or homohatred. But, homophobia is absurd and exagerated description of them.

 

[Seawytch]

How about you just admit that I'm right.



cherry pick all you want, but you know hating broccoli would make me a subcat of xenophobe

Nobody is "cherry picking". I gave you the Merriam Webster definition. How about Oxford?



an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.



Dictionary.com



unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.



And the "phobia" most often referred to is those that fear the gay in themselves, not others.

So you haven't met anyone that actually is a homophobe. No one ran off or had any fear reaction what so ever.



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Fear is not the only qualifier for the dictionary and commonly held definition of homophobia. Why focus on just one aspect of the definition?

 

[koshergrl]

Our hatred for the extremist homo bloc has sadly affected us in that it has made us antagonistic towards homosexuals in general.

 

[koshergrl]

Yeah, when you have a lobby that turns pederasts and perverts into heroes and demands that we implement programs in the schools that were developed by said pederasts and perverts, you will find that people fear and hate them.

It's just the way it works.