Birthright Citizenship? Yes/No

[WorldWatcher]

Except she gained automatic Citizenship by marrying Donald Trump....

Your postulate doesn't work.

Citizenship isn’t automatic upon marriage.

She married Trump in 1977, she didn’t become a citizen until 1988.

WW

 

[Rambunctious]

To the jurisdiction thereof.... meaning the parents home country has first dibs on the kid... simple enough for you libs?...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No...
Anchor babies was something like 9% of all live births.
That means the rest giving birth were first generation new citizens.
And that stands to make sense.

First generation new citizens keep up high birth rates. It's 2nd and 3rd generation that slow down the reproduction...
I really have zero qualms about legal immigration. Their kids are always normal Americans and behave normal. Parents who are 1st gen, so long as they make an honest effort to learn English I'm all good. I've worked with many. From Egyptians to Venezuelans and all points in between. (Polish, Mexican, Costa Rican, Moroccan and Guatamalan)

For most MARRIED couples today...we need each wife to have 4-5 children if we wish to keep USA population stable and possibly grow a tiny bit.

Now how we accomplish this is anyone's guess.

I Can't get my sister to wink at guys or my son to ask a girl out. Both are getting really close to 30....I'm just really depressed about them.

Why would we need to grow the population. Just make more parks.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Why would we need to grow the population. Just make more parks.

We don't, it's just the labor racketeers who need them. We need to lose about 150 million, in fact.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No...
Anchor babies was something like 9% of all live births.
That means the rest giving birth were first generation new citizens.
And that stands to make sense.

First generation new citizens keep up high birth rates. It's 2nd and 3rd generation that slow down the reproduction...
I really have zero qualms about legal immigration. Their kids are always normal Americans and behave normal. Parents who are 1st gen, so long as they make an honest effort to learn English I'm all good. I've worked with many. From Egyptians to Venezuelans and all points in between. (Polish, Mexican, Costa Rican, Moroccan and Guatamalan)

For most MARRIED couples today...we need each wife to have 4-5 children if we wish to keep USA population stable and possibly grow a tiny bit.

Now how we accomplish this is anyone's guess.

I Can't get my sister to wink at guys or my son to ask a girl out. Both are getting really close to 30....I'm just really depressed about them.

Once again, there is no such thing as an "anchor baby". There is no anchor to it children born to illegals or temporary visitors. The parents gain no right to remain in the US and can and will be deported, regardless of the child being born here. That is something that hard-headed people do not know and refuse to accept. In the past, the Biden administration did not follow the law regarding this policy. That changed on January 20, 2025 when Trump took office.

Your opinion is noted, Chicken Little, and dismissed summarily with prejudice.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

To the jurisdiction thereof.... meaning the parents home country has first dibs on the kid... simple enough for you libs?...

Well, if that is what it meant, but it doesn't.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Except she gained automatic Citizenship by marrying Donald Trump....

Your postulate doesn't work.

Not true, dumbass!

She did not become a citizen until a year after they were married.

Does the JohnDB stand for John's a Dumb Butt?

 

[dudmuck]

Except she gained automatic Citizenship by marrying Donald Trump....

Your postulate doesn't work.

thats not how citizenship works.
Marriage is orthogonal to citizenship or immigration status.
Ivana Trump did not receive citizenship until 1988.

 

[JonKoch]

JohnDB

Except she gained automatic Citizenship by marrying Donald Trump....

Your postulate doesn't work.

Marrying a U.S. citizen does not grant automatic citizenship or an automatic Green Card. It only makes you eligible to apply for lawful permanent residence (a Green Card) and provides a faster track to naturalization—usually after 3 years instead of 5. A rigorous, fee-based application process is required

 

[Rambunctious]

Well, if that is what it meant, but it doesn't.

Who retains jurisdiction over a citizen of a foreign nation.... Its their home country listed on their passport... American citizens enjoy that privilege when we are abroad....
In other words if we have extradition with a nation they retain total jurisdiction for their citizens...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Who retains jurisdiction over a citizen of a foreign nation.... Its their home country listed on their passport... American citizens enjoy that privilege when we are abroad....
In other words if we have extradition with a nation they retain total jurisdiction for their citizens...

You shot yourself in the foot with the highlighted text.

You are completely wrong.

 

[sparky]

Approximately 23% of births in the United States are to foreign-born mothers.

how much is on our tax dime??

~S~

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We don't, it's just the labor racketeers who need them. We need to lose about 150 million, in fact.

The more mechanized we become the less we need population.

 

[Rambunctious]

You shot yourself in the foot with the highlighted text.

You are completely wrong.

The court will hear both opinions in this case... we have used both opinions in other cases and situations in the past so those examples will be brought up and we will see who is right.... the government under Trump sees it as their home nation retains jurisdiction.... therefore the home nation claims the child as their citizen....

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The court will hear both opinions in this case... we have used both opinions in other cases and situations in the past so those examples will be brought up and we will see who is right.... the government under Trump sees it as their home nation retains jurisdiction.... therefore the home nation claims the child as their citizen....

And they are wrong, just like I said before.

 

[Rambunctious]

And they are wrong, just like I said before.

Maybe but that's one argument they will use...

 

[AZrailwhale]

Countries With Birthright Citizenship​

Want to know how many countries have birthright citizenship?

The World Population Review says there are 75. A U.S. Library of Congress record dated in the early 2000s said there are 94 countries with birthright citizenship. This indicates that over time, more countries have been abolishing (or at least restricting) birthright citizenship.

Unrestricted Birthright Citizenship​

What countries have birthright citizenship?

Below is a list of 35 countries with unrestricted born-in-a-country citizenship, i.e., that unconditionally endow citizenship to anyone born in their jurisdiction.

Note that this list can change as more countries adopt more restrictive measures on their birthright citizenship laws.

1. Antigua and Barbuda
2. Argentina
3. Barbados
4. Belize
5. Bolivia
6. Brazil
7. Canada
8. Chad
9. Chile
10. Costa Rica
11. Cuba
12. Dominica
13. Ecuador
14. El Salvador
15. Fiji
16. Grenada
17. Guatemala
18. Guyana
19. Honduras
20. Jamaica
21. Lesotho
22. Mexico
23. Nicaragua
24. Panama
25. Paraguay
26. Peru
27. St. Kitts and Nevis
28. St. Lucia
29. St. Vincent and the Grenadines
30. Tanzania
31. Trinidad and Tobago
32. Tuvalu
33. United States
34. Uruguay
35. Venezuela

Note that Antigua and Barbuda, Dominica, Grenada, St. Kitts and Nevis, and St. Lucia all allow unrestricted birthright citizenship. Any children you give birth to in these Caribbean countries will be citizens, even if you yourself are not yet a citizen—e.g., still processing your citizenship by investment or naturalization application.

Birthright Citizenship With Conditions​

What countries have birthright citizenship but with attached conditions? The following 40 countries offer conditional birthright citizenship.

1. Australia
2. Bahrain
3. Belgium
4. Cambodia
5. Colombia
6. Cyprus
7. Dominican Republic
8. Egypt
9. Finland
10. France
11. Germany
12. Greece
13. Hong Kong
14. India
15. Iran
16. Ireland
17. Israel
18. Italy
19. Japan
20. Luxembourg
21. Macau
22. Malaysia
23. Malta
24. Mongolia
25. Morocco
26. Namibia
27. Netherlands
28. New Zealand
29. Pakistan
30. Portugal
31. Sao Tome and Principe
32. South Africa
33. Spain
34. Sudan
35. Sweden
36. Taiwan
37. Thailand
38. Tunisia
39. Ukraine
40. United Kingdom

Most of the above countries combine jus soli and jus sanguinis, requiring blood relationships with citizens before automatically assigning birthright citizenship.

Only FOURTEEN out of seventy-five countries can even be argued to be first world countries. Most are third world countries.

 

[protectionist]

No. Simply posting the Amendment
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

What part do you interpret differently? Do you usually need interpretations to understand the English language?

It isn't interpretation. It is FACT.
The author, Sen Jacob Howard said the 14th doesn't include kids of foreigners, aliens. That should close it.

 

[protectionist]

They already are applying it accordingly. If you want change, then change the Constitution.

No they are not. The author was clear (see post # 11) He said no kids of aliens. Why is this so controversial ?
And why has there been a such thing as anchor babies for so long ? This is one of he craziest things of American history.

 

[JohnDB]

It isn't interpretation. It is FACT.
The author, Sen Jacob Howard said the 14th doesn't include kids of foreigners, aliens. That should close it.

There was a later law, not Constitutional ammendment, that further included Black people and Native Americans as citizens.
Even after the Civil War Black's didn't immediately get full voting rights. That came later.

And this, as well as a few court cases, is where everyone is arguing from.

Truly, this came about because Nurses are not immigration specialists....they are nurses. And when that illegal alien gives birth the nurses automatically signs that baby up for a SS card....