Biden's speech. Pretty damn good

[Moonglow]

G i watch Fox so I thought he was a babbling idiot demented LOL

Agree, Uncle Joe has given hundreds of speeches as a pol. This was his best. Kinda pulled the rug out from under Trump claims about his cognitive abilities. One roundhouse right after another!

Trump's biggest mistake is underestimating the power of his adversary.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

. His pupils were blown and slow to react

Lie. This has been observed many times long into his time in a well lit room. You embarrass yourself.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yeah, I was waiting for him to pass out. It's the first time I watched him do a speech - 25 minutes. He's a boring speaker.

I thought he seemed old - I can see all his hair gone in four years.

Maybe he can get some pointers on a good combover like Trump or a wear a wig like Reagan.

LOL You know trump had his scalp shrunk so he wouldn't look bald?

Well, he wouldn't compromise his need for brain pan space.

Any man that loses a wife a daughter and son and can still go on shows he's more of a man than orange slime bag can ever be

Biden is but one of millions of men that have suffered such losses and gone on with their lives. Many of those men suffered their losses as a result of needless wars promoted and extended by assholes like Joe Biden.

**** Joe and his pity party.

there was no self-pity or whine in that speech. That was to contrast himself to Trump. And imo that was a conscious a decision as was putting his kids face front for the camera.
Now whether you like or don't like his policies or his past positions …. that's totally up to you, and I would not criticize it.

Joe has policies? Why doesn't he tell us about the? What's his plan to deal with illegal immigration? Will he continue Obama's support of Iranian wars across the ME and Iranian terrorism around the world in order to keep Obama's bff status with the ayatollahs? What's his plan to secure the best covid vaccines and treatments for Americans or does he plan to allow the UN to decide what we should get? Will he turn a blind eye to China's unfair trade policies and continue to ship US jobs to China as Obama did?

Obama had no power to ship any jobs overseas, the president can't make a company select a manufacturer for its product. Trump can't get corporations to move their operations because he has no power to do it, the only method is the carrot and a stick.

Of course he can. The president can raise tariffs on goods produced in China for sale in the US, forcing the companies that ship their jobs to China to raise their prices and become less price competitive with US made items. Obama made a choice not to try to preserve these jobs for American workers. Would Biden make the same choice if, God forbid, he should become president?

The tariffs didn't bring home Apple or any of the big corporations they simply moved to Vietnam Why? Because they can...All tariffs did was inflate prices and make your dollar worth less.

The tariffs did two things. They discouraged companies from sending jobs abroad because the tariffs erased any cost benefit from doing so, and they punished China for maintaining unfair trade practices.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yeah, I was waiting for him to pass out. It's the first time I watched him do a speech - 25 minutes. He's a boring speaker.

I thought he seemed old - I can see all his hair gone in four years.

Maybe he can get some pointers on a good combover like Trump or a wear a wig like Reagan.

LOL You know trump had his scalp shrunk so he wouldn't look bald?

Well, he wouldn't compromise his need for brain pan space.

Any man that loses a wife a daughter and son and can still go on shows he's more of a man than orange slime bag can ever be

Biden is but one of millions of men that have suffered such losses and gone on with their lives. Many of those men suffered their losses as a result of needless wars promoted and extended by assholes like Joe Biden.

**** Joe and his pity party.

there was no self-pity or whine in that speech. That was to contrast himself to Trump. And imo that was a conscious a decision as was putting his kids face front for the camera.
Now whether you like or don't like his policies or his past positions …. that's totally up to you, and I would not criticize it.

Joe has policies? Why doesn't he tell us about the? What's his plan to deal with illegal immigration? Will he continue Obama's support of Iranian wars across the ME and Iranian terrorism around the world in order to keep Obama's bff status with the ayatollahs? What's his plan to secure the best covid vaccines and treatments for Americans or does he plan to allow the UN to decide what we should get? Will he turn a blind eye to China's unfair trade policies and continue to ship US jobs to China as Obama did?

Obama had no power to ship any jobs overseas, the president can't make a company select a manufacturer for its product. Trump can't get corporations to move their operations because he has no power to do it, the only method is the carrot and a stick.

Of course he can. The president can raise tariffs on goods produced in China for sale in the US, forcing the companies that ship their jobs to China to raise their prices and become less price competitive with US made items. Obama made a choice not to try to preserve these jobs for American workers. Would Biden make the same choice if, God forbid, he should become president?

The tariffs didn't bring home Apple or any of the big corporations they simply moved to Vietnam Why? Because they can...All tariffs did was inflate prices and make your dollar worth less.

The tariffs did two things. They discouraged companies from sending jobs abroad because the tariffs erased any cost benefit from doing so, and they punished China for maintaining unfair trade practices.

What a steaming pile. They damaged our economy more than China's, and the end result was that we got our asses kicked in the trade war, with the fool president ending it by signing a deal that was worse than where we were before he started his little vanity trade war. Just another case of trump harming the country to try to enrich himself.

 

[toomuchtime_]

G i watch Fox so I thought he was a babbling idiot demented LOL

Agree, Uncle Joe has given hundreds of speeches as a pol. This was his best. Kinda pulled the rug out from under Trump claims about his cognitive abilities. One roundhouse right after another!

Trump's biggest mistake is underestimating the power of his adversary.

What power? He wouldn't have even won the primaries if the Democratic leadership hadn't forced other contenders to drop their bid to prevent Sanders from winning. Biden didn't win the nomination, he was appointed to it.

 

[Moonglow]

Yeah, I was waiting for him to pass out. It's the first time I watched him do a speech - 25 minutes. He's a boring speaker.

I thought he seemed old - I can see all his hair gone in four years.

Maybe he can get some pointers on a good combover like Trump or a wear a wig like Reagan.

LOL You know trump had his scalp shrunk so he wouldn't look bald?

Well, he wouldn't compromise his need for brain pan space.

Any man that loses a wife a daughter and son and can still go on shows he's more of a man than orange slime bag can ever be

Biden is but one of millions of men that have suffered such losses and gone on with their lives. Many of those men suffered their losses as a result of needless wars promoted and extended by assholes like Joe Biden.

**** Joe and his pity party.

there was no self-pity or whine in that speech. That was to contrast himself to Trump. And imo that was a conscious a decision as was putting his kids face front for the camera.
Now whether you like or don't like his policies or his past positions …. that's totally up to you, and I would not criticize it.

Joe has policies? Why doesn't he tell us about the? What's his plan to deal with illegal immigration? Will he continue Obama's support of Iranian wars across the ME and Iranian terrorism around the world in order to keep Obama's bff status with the ayatollahs? What's his plan to secure the best covid vaccines and treatments for Americans or does he plan to allow the UN to decide what we should get? Will he turn a blind eye to China's unfair trade policies and continue to ship US jobs to China as Obama did?

Obama had no power to ship any jobs overseas, the president can't make a company select a manufacturer for its product. Trump can't get corporations to move their operations because he has no power to do it, the only method is the carrot and a stick.

Of course he can. The president can raise tariffs on goods produced in China for sale in the US, forcing the companies that ship their jobs to China to raise their prices and become less price competitive with US made items. Obama made a choice not to try to preserve these jobs for American workers. Would Biden make the same choice if, God forbid, he should become president?

The tariffs didn't bring home Apple or any of the big corporations they simply moved to Vietnam Why? Because they can...All tariffs did was inflate prices and make your dollar worth less.

The tariffs did two things. They discouraged companies from sending jobs abroad because the tariffs erased any cost benefit from doing so, and they punished China for maintaining unfair trade practices.

I a afraid not all the corporations did was move manufacturing to another place with low wages and low costs...Look at yer cell phone if it is a new one like mine it say Made in Vietnam...Not USA, textile products sold in stores: Made in Vietnam China is punished but corporations will not bring jobs back to the USA because of capital cost and operating cost.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yeah, I was waiting for him to pass out. It's the first time I watched him do a speech - 25 minutes. He's a boring speaker.

I thought he seemed old - I can see all his hair gone in four years.

Maybe he can get some pointers on a good combover like Trump or a wear a wig like Reagan.

LOL You know trump had his scalp shrunk so he wouldn't look bald?

Well, he wouldn't compromise his need for brain pan space.

Any man that loses a wife a daughter and son and can still go on shows he's more of a man than orange slime bag can ever be

Biden is but one of millions of men that have suffered such losses and gone on with their lives. Many of those men suffered their losses as a result of needless wars promoted and extended by assholes like Joe Biden.

**** Joe and his pity party.

there was no self-pity or whine in that speech. That was to contrast himself to Trump. And imo that was a conscious a decision as was putting his kids face front for the camera.
Now whether you like or don't like his policies or his past positions …. that's totally up to you, and I would not criticize it.

Joe has policies? Why doesn't he tell us about the? What's his plan to deal with illegal immigration? Will he continue Obama's support of Iranian wars across the ME and Iranian terrorism around the world in order to keep Obama's bff status with the ayatollahs? What's his plan to secure the best covid vaccines and treatments for Americans or does he plan to allow the UN to decide what we should get? Will he turn a blind eye to China's unfair trade policies and continue to ship US jobs to China as Obama did?

Obama had no power to ship any jobs overseas, the president can't make a company select a manufacturer for its product. Trump can't get corporations to move their operations because he has no power to do it, the only method is the carrot and a stick.

Of course he can. The president can raise tariffs on goods produced in China for sale in the US, forcing the companies that ship their jobs to China to raise their prices and become less price competitive with US made items. Obama made a choice not to try to preserve these jobs for American workers. Would Biden make the same choice if, God forbid, he should become president?

The tariffs didn't bring home Apple or any of the big corporations they simply moved to Vietnam Why? Because they can...All tariffs did was inflate prices and make your dollar worth less.

The tariffs did two things. They discouraged companies from sending jobs abroad because the tariffs erased any cost benefit from doing so, and they punished China for maintaining unfair trade practices.

What a steaming pile. They damaged our economy more than China's, and the end result was that we got our asses kicked in the trade war, with the fool president ending it by signing a deal that was worse than where we were before he started his little vanity trade war. Just another case of trump harming the country to try to enrich himself.

In other words, you have no idea what happened but have strong opinions about it anyway. Isn't that always the case with you?

 

[Moonglow]

G i watch Fox so I thought he was a babbling idiot demented LOL

Agree, Uncle Joe has given hundreds of speeches as a pol. This was his best. Kinda pulled the rug out from under Trump claims about his cognitive abilities. One roundhouse right after another!

Trump's biggest mistake is underestimating the power of his adversary.

What power? He wouldn't have even won the primaries if the Democratic leadership hadn't forced other contenders to drop their bid to prevent Sanders from winning. Biden didn't win the nomination, he was appointed to it.

Try reading the art of war my friend.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He wouldn't have even won the primaries if the Democratic leadership hadn't forced other contenders to drop their bid to prevent Sanders from winning.

What a silly lie.

 

[bendog]

Yeah, I was waiting for him to pass out. It's the first time I watched him do a speech - 25 minutes. He's a boring speaker.

I thought he seemed old - I can see all his hair gone in four years.

Maybe he can get some pointers on a good combover like Trump or a wear a wig like Reagan.

LOL You know trump had his scalp shrunk so he wouldn't look bald?

Well, he wouldn't compromise his need for brain pan space.

Any man that loses a wife a daughter and son and can still go on shows he's more of a man than orange slime bag can ever be

Biden is but one of millions of men that have suffered such losses and gone on with their lives. Many of those men suffered their losses as a result of needless wars promoted and extended by assholes like Joe Biden.

**** Joe and his pity party.

there was no self-pity or whine in that speech. That was to contrast himself to Trump. And imo that was a conscious a decision as was putting his kids face front for the camera.
Now whether you like or don't like his policies or his past positions …. that's totally up to you, and I would not criticize it.

Joe has policies? Why doesn't he tell us about the? What's his plan to deal with illegal immigration? Will he continue Obama's support of Iranian wars across the ME and Iranian terrorism around the world in order to keep Obama's bff status with the ayatollahs? What's his plan to secure the best covid vaccines and treatments for Americans or does he plan to allow the UN to decide what we should get? Will he turn a blind eye to China's unfair trade policies and continue to ship US jobs to China as Obama did?

Obama had no power to ship any jobs overseas, the president can't make a company select a manufacturer for its product. Trump can't get corporations to move their operations because he has no power to do it, the only method is the carrot and a stick.

Of course he can. The president can raise tariffs on goods produced in China for sale in the US, forcing the companies that ship their jobs to China to raise their prices and become less price competitive with US made items. Obama made a choice not to try to preserve these jobs for American workers. Would Biden make the same choice if, God forbid, he should become president?

Getting OT from the speech ….

But the question is whether Trump actually saved, or brought back, any of these jobs. I don't seen any evidence he did. And I'm assuming for argument that he ever really intended to do so.

Still, there are non-service jobs that either cannot be shipped overseas (farming, food processing, natl resouces, domestic energy, transportation). And some if not most service jobs can't be shipped out, and there's law or practical reason that we can't mandate wage and benefit levels. Germany, Japan, SK all do, and their capitalist economies seem to be ok. Imo Biden at least touched on that with his ACA defense (I'm not a fan of how that law was actually structured)

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

In other words, you have no idea what happened but have strong opinions about it anyway.

No, i just described what happened. I describe what happened, and you fling your own poo. Must be a day that ends in "y".

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yeah, I was waiting for him to pass out. It's the first time I watched him do a speech - 25 minutes. He's a boring speaker.

I thought he seemed old - I can see all his hair gone in four years.

Maybe he can get some pointers on a good combover like Trump or a wear a wig like Reagan.

LOL You know trump had his scalp shrunk so he wouldn't look bald?

Well, he wouldn't compromise his need for brain pan space.

Any man that loses a wife a daughter and son and can still go on shows he's more of a man than orange slime bag can ever be

Biden is but one of millions of men that have suffered such losses and gone on with their lives. Many of those men suffered their losses as a result of needless wars promoted and extended by assholes like Joe Biden.

**** Joe and his pity party.

there was no self-pity or whine in that speech. That was to contrast himself to Trump. And imo that was a conscious a decision as was putting his kids face front for the camera.
Now whether you like or don't like his policies or his past positions …. that's totally up to you, and I would not criticize it.

Joe has policies? Why doesn't he tell us about the? What's his plan to deal with illegal immigration? Will he continue Obama's support of Iranian wars across the ME and Iranian terrorism around the world in order to keep Obama's bff status with the ayatollahs? What's his plan to secure the best covid vaccines and treatments for Americans or does he plan to allow the UN to decide what we should get? Will he turn a blind eye to China's unfair trade policies and continue to ship US jobs to China as Obama did?

Obama had no power to ship any jobs overseas, the president can't make a company select a manufacturer for its product. Trump can't get corporations to move their operations because he has no power to do it, the only method is the carrot and a stick.

Of course he can. The president can raise tariffs on goods produced in China for sale in the US, forcing the companies that ship their jobs to China to raise their prices and become less price competitive with US made items. Obama made a choice not to try to preserve these jobs for American workers. Would Biden make the same choice if, God forbid, he should become president?

The tariffs didn't bring home Apple or any of the big corporations they simply moved to Vietnam Why? Because they can...All tariffs did was inflate prices and make your dollar worth less.

The tariffs did two things. They discouraged companies from sending jobs abroad because the tariffs erased any cost benefit from doing so, and they punished China for maintaining unfair trade practices.

I a afraid not all the corporations did was move manufacturing to another place with low wages and low costs...Look at yer cell phone if it is a new one like mine it say Made in Vietnam...Not USA, textile products sold in stores: Made in Vietnam China is punished but corporations will not bring jobs back to the USA because of capital cost and operating cost.

It hasn't brought back all the jobs Obama allowed to be shipped abroad, but it has discouraged companies from sending more jobs abroad if they plan to sell to the US market.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yeah, I was waiting for him to pass out. It's the first time I watched him do a speech - 25 minutes. He's a boring speaker.

I thought he seemed old - I can see all his hair gone in four years.

Maybe he can get some pointers on a good combover like Trump or a wear a wig like Reagan.

LOL You know trump had his scalp shrunk so he wouldn't look bald?

Well, he wouldn't compromise his need for brain pan space.

Any man that loses a wife a daughter and son and can still go on shows he's more of a man than orange slime bag can ever be

Biden is but one of millions of men that have suffered such losses and gone on with their lives. Many of those men suffered their losses as a result of needless wars promoted and extended by assholes like Joe Biden.

**** Joe and his pity party.

there was no self-pity or whine in that speech. That was to contrast himself to Trump. And imo that was a conscious a decision as was putting his kids face front for the camera.
Now whether you like or don't like his policies or his past positions …. that's totally up to you, and I would not criticize it.

Joe has policies? Why doesn't he tell us about the? What's his plan to deal with illegal immigration? Will he continue Obama's support of Iranian wars across the ME and Iranian terrorism around the world in order to keep Obama's bff status with the ayatollahs? What's his plan to secure the best covid vaccines and treatments for Americans or does he plan to allow the UN to decide what we should get? Will he turn a blind eye to China's unfair trade policies and continue to ship US jobs to China as Obama did?

Obama had no power to ship any jobs overseas, the president can't make a company select a manufacturer for its product. Trump can't get corporations to move their operations because he has no power to do it, the only method is the carrot and a stick.

Of course he can. The president can raise tariffs on goods produced in China for sale in the US, forcing the companies that ship their jobs to China to raise their prices and become less price competitive with US made items. Obama made a choice not to try to preserve these jobs for American workers. Would Biden make the same choice if, God forbid, he should become president?

The tariffs didn't bring home Apple or any of the big corporations they simply moved to Vietnam Why? Because they can...All tariffs did was inflate prices and make your dollar worth less.

The tariffs did two things. They discouraged companies from sending jobs abroad because the tariffs erased any cost benefit from doing so, and they punished China for maintaining unfair trade practices.

I a afraid not all the corporations did was move manufacturing to another place with low wages and low costs...Look at yer cell phone if it is a new one like mine it say Made in Vietnam...Not USA, textile products sold in stores: Made in Vietnam China is punished but corporations will not bring jobs back to the USA because of capital cost and operating cost.

It hasn't brought back all the jobs Obama allowed to be shipped abroad, but it has discouraged companies from sending more jobs abroad if they plan to sell to the US market.

Yes, Captain Obvious, that is one fundamental idea of tariffs. Any high school freshman can read that off page 122 in their economics text. But the actual effectiveness is measured in the arena of actual cost vs actual benefit. And the results so far are not good.

 

[Orangecat]

I liked the part where he said "And there has never been anything we've been able to accomplish when we've done it together."
Lulz.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I liked the part where he said there's nothing we can accomplish when we all work together. Lulz.

That pales in comparison to the power and command he displayed when he declared that freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.

it must have sent raptured chills up the spines of his supporters here.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I liked the part where he said there's nothing we can accomplish when we all work together. Lulz.

That pales in comparison to the power and command he displayed when he declared that freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.

it must have sent raptured chills up the spines of his supporters here.

Actual quote:

"And there has never been anything we've been unable to accomplish, when we've done it together."

Look at you two...just a perfectly matched couple of shameless liars, pouring honey into each other's ears.

 

[OKTexas]

G i watch Fox so I thought he was a babbling idiot demented LOL

I guess, if you could get past laughing like hell at all the ******* lies he spewed. Fact checkers, if they're honest, will have a field day.

.

Such as? LOL. All respected media and law enforcement say you are brainwashed with bologna.....

He lied about what Trump said on Charlottesville.

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Pretty much everything he said of Covid has already been done by the Trump administration. I could go on but you being a dishonest, intellectually bankrupt commie, I won't waste my time.

.

 

[Orangecat]

Actual quote:

"And there has never been anything we've been unable to accomplish, when we've done it together."

I watched it. He clearly said "And there has never been anything we've been able to accomplish, when we've done it together."
23:10

Nice try, fort-fun-fool.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He lied about what Trump said on Charlottesville.

so? These are the new rules, now. You have been in love with these new rules for 4 years. So.... enjoy!

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yeah, I was waiting for him to pass out. It's the first time I watched him do a speech - 25 minutes. He's a boring speaker.

I thought he seemed old - I can see all his hair gone in four years.

Maybe he can get some pointers on a good combover like Trump or a wear a wig like Reagan.

LOL You know trump had his scalp shrunk so he wouldn't look bald?

Well, he wouldn't compromise his need for brain pan space.

Any man that loses a wife a daughter and son and can still go on shows he's more of a man than orange slime bag can ever be

Biden is but one of millions of men that have suffered such losses and gone on with their lives. Many of those men suffered their losses as a result of needless wars promoted and extended by assholes like Joe Biden.

**** Joe and his pity party.

there was no self-pity or whine in that speech. That was to contrast himself to Trump. And imo that was a conscious a decision as was putting his kids face front for the camera.
Now whether you like or don't like his policies or his past positions …. that's totally up to you, and I would not criticize it.

Joe has policies? Why doesn't he tell us about the? What's his plan to deal with illegal immigration? Will he continue Obama's support of Iranian wars across the ME and Iranian terrorism around the world in order to keep Obama's bff status with the ayatollahs? What's his plan to secure the best covid vaccines and treatments for Americans or does he plan to allow the UN to decide what we should get? Will he turn a blind eye to China's unfair trade policies and continue to ship US jobs to China as Obama did?

Obama had no power to ship any jobs overseas, the president can't make a company select a manufacturer for its product. Trump can't get corporations to move their operations because he has no power to do it, the only method is the carrot and a stick.

Of course he can. The president can raise tariffs on goods produced in China for sale in the US, forcing the companies that ship their jobs to China to raise their prices and become less price competitive with US made items. Obama made a choice not to try to preserve these jobs for American workers. Would Biden make the same choice if, God forbid, he should become president?

Getting OT from the speech ….

But the question is whether Trump actually saved, or brought back, any of these jobs. I don't seen any evidence he did. And I'm assuming for argument that he ever really intended to do so.

Still, there are non-service jobs that either cannot be shipped overseas (farming, food processing, natl resouces, domestic energy, transportation). And some if not most service jobs can't be shipped out, and there's law or practical reason that we can't mandate wage and benefit levels. Germany, Japan, SK all do, and their capitalist economies seem to be ok. Imo Biden at least touched on that with his ACA defense (I'm not a fan of how that law was actually structured)

Clearly we are talking about manufacturing jobs which have been higher paying jobs than most service jobs that require the same level of education. When Bill Clinton sponsored China for membership in the WTO, he argued that the US would benefit from this because it would give US companies access to the vast Chinese market, but then he betrayed his promise by allowing China to have developing nation status, meaning China could protect its own industries by not allowing US exports in while having full access to US markets. China took full advantage of Clinton's blunder or treachery by launching high tariffs on US exports and only allowing US companies access to Chinese markets if they took Chinese partners and manufactured their goods in China, causing many US jobs go to China. In addition, China pegged its currency at a significantly lower level than markets would have allowed, artificially making Chinese exports cheaper and US exports exorbitantly expensive in China, sending even more US jobs to China.

President Bush forced China to allow its currency to fluctuate with the currency markets but made little progress in persuading China to allow access to its markets for US made goods. Obama either didn't understand why US jobs were going to China or didn't care. President Trump came into office determined to force China to drop these unfair trade practices, and when China refused, he leveled tariffs on some Chinese exports just as China was using tariffs and other measures to deny US goods access to Chinese markets. These measures have significantly slowed the growth of the Chinese economy and with another four years of diminishing growth, it is likely China will drop some of its unfair trade practices.