Biden’s immigration policy....Is it good for black folks?

[HereWeGoAgain]

funny you guys address this issue----Just last nite
I opined-----to hubby-----' the very first people to
complain will be working blacks ' seeing their jobs
handed over to-----|-"god" knows what" and their
neighborhoods INVADED by " "god" knows what "

Those who will be made legal are already working here. They already have jobs. They have been for decades.

Because we keep letting them in and giving them amnesty.

Whatever. I argued for years to address the issue and we didn't.

And who insists on open borders?

Business.

Democrats.

 

[pknopp]

Those who were doing good lose their jobs and we end up with millions and millions of people with no lively hood. We will then start enacting a guaranteed living wage. There are already places starting to do this and those arguing for it

Do I understand it correctly that some people will be getting a 'salary' without having to do any work for it?

2021 Will Be the Year of Guaranteed Income Experiments

I have heard about this idea, but still it raises more questions than gives answers. For example, what level of this income should be - to cover only basic needs such as food and clothing or something more? What will a source be to finance these spendings?

I'm sure that will all be worked out.

Actually, I was asking about your opinion.

I support addressing the issue. There are two ways. Address the businesses hiring illegals OR address it by making the illegals legal.

We wouldn't do the first and it looks like Biden will do the second. So OK.

I dont understand what it has to do with illegals. If there wasn't them there wouldn't be a need to impose the income?

Eventually. The illegals will just speed the process up.

 

[pknopp]

Those who were doing good lose their jobs and we end up with millions and millions of people with no lively hood. We will then start enacting a guaranteed living wage. There are already places starting to do this and those arguing for it

Do I understand it correctly that some people will be getting a 'salary' without having to do any work for it?

2021 Will Be the Year of Guaranteed Income Experiments

How anyone would think it's a good idea to give money for nothing is a good idea is beyond me.
The obvious intent is to make the populace dependant on the government.

Whatever. We will have no other options because no one wanted to address this in other ways.

Bullshit.
Stop voting for the people who want to implement these policies.
By voting for them you agree with them.

Trump supporters brought us here. He could have addressed the businesses bringing illegals here. He didn't. Now you get to pay for that.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Those who were doing good lose their jobs and we end up with millions and millions of people with no lively hood. We will then start enacting a guaranteed living wage. There are already places starting to do this and those arguing for it

Do I understand it correctly that some people will be getting a 'salary' without having to do any work for it?

2021 Will Be the Year of Guaranteed Income Experiments

How anyone would think it's a good idea to give money for nothing is a good idea is beyond me.
The obvious intent is to make the populace dependant on the government.

Whatever. We will have no other options because no one wanted to address this in other ways.

Bullshit.
Stop voting for the people who want to implement these policies.
By voting for them you agree with them.

Trump supporters brought us here. He could have addressed the businesses bringing illegals here. He didn't. Now you get to pay for that.

Your problem is thinking politicians from both sides are going to do anything about it by punishing businesses who hire illegals.
So Trump went the only way he could,try and slow the flow of illegal immigrants.

 

[pknopp]

Those who were doing good lose their jobs and we end up with millions and millions of people with no lively hood. We will then start enacting a guaranteed living wage. There are already places starting to do this and those arguing for it

Do I understand it correctly that some people will be getting a 'salary' without having to do any work for it?

2021 Will Be the Year of Guaranteed Income Experiments

How anyone would think it's a good idea to give money for nothing is a good idea is beyond me.
The obvious intent is to make the populace dependant on the government.

Whatever. We will have no other options because no one wanted to address this in other ways.

Bullshit.
Stop voting for the people who want to implement these policies.
By voting for them you agree with them.

Trump supporters brought us here. He could have addressed the businesses bringing illegals here. He didn't. Now you get to pay for that.

Your problem is thinking politicians from both sides are going to do anything about it by punishing businesses who hire illegals.
So Trump went the only way he could,try and slow the flow of illegal immigrants.

Except he didn't and Trump ran the Justice Department and the (D)'s could have done nothing about him enforcing the laws. He didn't. Now you get to pay for that failure.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Those who were doing good lose their jobs and we end up with millions and millions of people with no lively hood. We will then start enacting a guaranteed living wage. There are already places starting to do this and those arguing for it

Do I understand it correctly that some people will be getting a 'salary' without having to do any work for it?

2021 Will Be the Year of Guaranteed Income Experiments

How anyone would think it's a good idea to give money for nothing is a good idea is beyond me.
The obvious intent is to make the populace dependant on the government.

Whatever. We will have no other options because no one wanted to address this in other ways.

Bullshit.
Stop voting for the people who want to implement these policies.
By voting for them you agree with them.

Trump supporters brought us here. He could have addressed the businesses bringing illegals here. He didn't. Now you get to pay for that.

Your problem is thinking politicians from both sides are going to do anything about it by punishing businesses who hire illegals.
So Trump went the only way he could,try and slow the flow of illegal immigrants.

Except he didn't and Trump ran the Justice Department and the (D)'s could have done nothing about him enforcing the laws. He didn't. Now you get to pay for that failure.

No,we get to pay for Xidens open border policies that will make the problem a thousand times worse.

 

[pknopp]

Those who were doing good lose their jobs and we end up with millions and millions of people with no lively hood. We will then start enacting a guaranteed living wage. There are already places starting to do this and those arguing for it

Do I understand it correctly that some people will be getting a 'salary' without having to do any work for it?

2021 Will Be the Year of Guaranteed Income Experiments

How anyone would think it's a good idea to give money for nothing is a good idea is beyond me.
The obvious intent is to make the populace dependant on the government.

Whatever. We will have no other options because no one wanted to address this in other ways.

Bullshit.
Stop voting for the people who want to implement these policies.
By voting for them you agree with them.

Trump supporters brought us here. He could have addressed the businesses bringing illegals here. He didn't. Now you get to pay for that.

Your problem is thinking politicians from both sides are going to do anything about it by punishing businesses who hire illegals.
So Trump went the only way he could,try and slow the flow of illegal immigrants.

Except he didn't and Trump ran the Justice Department and the (D)'s could have done nothing about him enforcing the laws. He didn't. Now you get to pay for that failure.

No,we get to pay for Xidens open border policies that will make the problem a thousand times worse.

We have had open borders for decades.

 

[TNHarley]

Of course it isn't. It isn't good for most Americans.
Rewarding illegals incites more illegals.
Its an insane cycle.

 

[Thinker101]

Of course it is. It's going to lead to a guaranteed wage for everyone.

Biden's immigration policy will lead to a guaranteed wage? WTF BS.

I explained how and why. You can address what I said or not.

And those were debunked, fricken pay attention.

It's already started.

2021 Will Be the Year of Guaranteed Income Experiments

Philanthropic investment and private fundraising...good luck with that. That's almost like praying money falls from the sky...dumbass.

Yeah well, you only read part of it.

What!!! There's more? Does it involve harvesting from a money tree...dumbass.

 

[pknopp]

Of course it is. It's going to lead to a guaranteed wage for everyone.

Biden's immigration policy will lead to a guaranteed wage? WTF BS.

I explained how and why. You can address what I said or not.

And those were debunked, fricken pay attention.

It's already started.

2021 Will Be the Year of Guaranteed Income Experiments

Philanthropic investment and private fundraising...good luck with that. That's almost like praying money falls from the sky...dumbass.

Yeah well, you only read part of it.

What!!! There's more? Does it involve harvesting from a money tree...dumbass.

Are we concerned about that again? We are $28 trillion in debt. What's $10 trillion more?

 

[Thinker101]

Of course it is. It's going to lead to a guaranteed wage for everyone.

Biden's immigration policy will lead to a guaranteed wage? WTF BS.

I explained how and why. You can address what I said or not.

And those were debunked, fricken pay attention.

It's already started.

2021 Will Be the Year of Guaranteed Income Experiments

Philanthropic investment and private fundraising...good luck with that. That's almost like praying money falls from the sky...dumbass.

Yeah well, you only read part of it.

What!!! There's more? Does it involve harvesting from a money tree...dumbass.

Are we concerned about that again? We are $28 trillion in debt. What's $10 trillion more?

Yes indeed, thank you Uncle Joe.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Of course it is. It's going to lead to a guaranteed wage for everyone.

Biden's immigration policy will lead to a guaranteed wage? WTF BS.

I explained how and why. You can address what I said or not.

And those were debunked, fricken pay attention.

It's already started.

2021 Will Be the Year of Guaranteed Income Experiments

Philanthropic investment and private fundraising...good luck with that. That's almost like praying money falls from the sky...dumbass.

Yeah well, you only read part of it.

What!!! There's more? Does it involve harvesting from a money tree...dumbass.

Are we concerned about that again? We are $28 trillion in debt. What's $10 trillion more?

Next Gustavo...I mean pknopp will tell us how illegals improve nations and how all nations should run out and recruit 10 million low grade thirdworlders to inhance their countries.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

When PROGS weren't looking they supported China-Joe, and China-Joe means a return and enhancement of Chinese interests and economics too. PROGS parrot wages and working conditions, just wait.

 

[Indeependent]

As the corporate and political elite see it the only way to remain competitive is to drive wages down by flooding the market with willing workers. Stabilization of the minimum wage is the death nail in the coffin for unskilled laborers. Another economic fact is removing marginal competition ( the smalls) from the market place to preserve and expand market share of larger politically connected firms. The market is designed to reward workers based on experience, ability, and reliability, not government mandate. In all my years I have never seen an example of a firm replacing highly skilled proven workers for cheap inefficient labor, you simply get what you pay for.

Disney 'made US workers train their Indian replacements' lawsuit says

And you think this is a good thing?
I dont see how replacing American workers with immigrants who will work for far less as a positive.
Whatever happened to dems being for the working class American?

I worked in a machine shop years ago that was owned by an indian.
He brought in a bunch of indians and wanted me to train them,I of course said no and that they could learn the same way I did,through experience.

pknopp is an old man and is relying on the Stock Market and his savings.

I find it hard to believe he has anything tied up in the stock market.
If he did he wouldnt vote for democrats.

He told me when he first joined that he was very concerned about his investments.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

As the corporate and political elite see it the only way to remain competitive is to drive wages down by flooding the market with willing workers. Stabilization of the minimum wage is the death nail in the coffin for unskilled laborers. Another economic fact is removing marginal competition ( the smalls) from the market place to preserve and expand market share of larger politically connected firms. The market is designed to reward workers based on experience, ability, and reliability, not government mandate. In all my years I have never seen an example of a firm replacing highly skilled proven workers for cheap inefficient labor, you simply get what you pay for.

Disney 'made US workers train their Indian replacements' lawsuit says

And you think this is a good thing?
I dont see how replacing American workers with immigrants who will work for far less as a positive.
Whatever happened to dems being for the working class American?

I worked in a machine shop years ago that was owned by an indian.
He brought in a bunch of indians and wanted me to train them,I of course said no and that they could learn the same way I did,through experience.

pknopp is an old man and is relying on the Stock Market and his savings.

I find it hard to believe he has anything tied up in the stock market.
If he did he wouldnt vote for democrats.

He told me when he first joined that he was very concerned about his investments.

In the crack industry?

 

[pknopp]

As the corporate and political elite see it the only way to remain competitive is to drive wages down by flooding the market with willing workers. Stabilization of the minimum wage is the death nail in the coffin for unskilled laborers. Another economic fact is removing marginal competition ( the smalls) from the market place to preserve and expand market share of larger politically connected firms. The market is designed to reward workers based on experience, ability, and reliability, not government mandate. In all my years I have never seen an example of a firm replacing highly skilled proven workers for cheap inefficient labor, you simply get what you pay for.

Disney 'made US workers train their Indian replacements' lawsuit says

And you think this is a good thing?
I dont see how replacing American workers with immigrants who will work for far less as a positive.
Whatever happened to dems being for the working class American?

I worked in a machine shop years ago that was owned by an indian.
He brought in a bunch of indians and wanted me to train them,I of course said no and that they could learn the same way I did,through experience.

pknopp is an old man and is relying on the Stock Market and his savings.

I find it hard to believe he has anything tied up in the stock market.
If he did he wouldnt vote for democrats.

He told me when he first joined that he was very concerned about his investments.

No one told you that. You just hate how I point out all your hypocrisy.

 

[Indeependent]

As the corporate and political elite see it the only way to remain competitive is to drive wages down by flooding the market with willing workers. Stabilization of the minimum wage is the death nail in the coffin for unskilled laborers. Another economic fact is removing marginal competition ( the smalls) from the market place to preserve and expand market share of larger politically connected firms. The market is designed to reward workers based on experience, ability, and reliability, not government mandate. In all my years I have never seen an example of a firm replacing highly skilled proven workers for cheap inefficient labor, you simply get what you pay for.

Disney 'made US workers train their Indian replacements' lawsuit says

And you think this is a good thing?
I dont see how replacing American workers with immigrants who will work for far less as a positive.
Whatever happened to dems being for the working class American?

I worked in a machine shop years ago that was owned by an indian.
He brought in a bunch of indians and wanted me to train them,I of course said no and that they could learn the same way I did,through experience.

pknopp is an old man and is relying on the Stock Market and his savings.

I find it hard to believe he has anything tied up in the stock market.
If he did he wouldnt vote for democrats.

He told me when he first joined that he was very concerned about his investments.

No one told you that. You just hate how I point out all your hypocrisy.

You did tell me that; it's your dementia blocking the memory.

 

[dannyboys]

Of course it is. It's going to lead to a guaranteed wage for everyone.

Can you elaborate on how you arrive at that?

I've done it many times. Those working here illegally will soon be working here legally. They will then fall under wage laws. They will have to be paid a legal wage, with OT and the rest. It will be great for awhile. A real positive. But then what is going to happen is the companies will start attracting more people from over the border to work illegally so they can pay them sub legal wages.

Those who were doing good lose their jobs and we end up with millions and millions of people with no lively hood. We will then start enacting a guaranteed living wage. There are already places starting to do this and those arguing for it.

So who the fuck is going to have to pay for a GLW??????? The fucking taxpayer! You know. The ones who will be going to work and seeing ten fucking illegals standing at the back door willing to work for cash for four bucks an hour!
If the illegals were known to end up voting for REPs in the future Nancy and Chuck would be standing on the border armed with AKs

 

[pknopp]

Of course it is. It's going to lead to a guaranteed wage for everyone.

Can you elaborate on how you arrive at that?

I've done it many times. Those working here illegally will soon be working here legally. They will then fall under wage laws. They will have to be paid a legal wage, with OT and the rest. It will be great for awhile. A real positive. But then what is going to happen is the companies will start attracting more people from over the border to work illegally so they can pay them sub legal wages.

Those who were doing good lose their jobs and we end up with millions and millions of people with no lively hood. We will then start enacting a guaranteed living wage. There are already places starting to do this and those arguing for it.

So who the fuck is going to have to pay for a GLW??????? The fucking taxpayer! You know. The ones who will be going to work and seeing ten fucking illegals standing at the back door willing to work for cash for four bucks an hour!
If the illegals were known to end up voting for REPs in the future Nancy and Chuck would be standing on the border armed with AKs

That's right. The taxpayers. The ones who refused to hold elected politicians responsible for not enforcing our immigration laws. The funny thing is, those who complain the most will still refuse to do that.

 

[easyt65]

There is no doubt in my mind; this administration will SAY all kinds of things that will ‘feel good’ for black folks...BUT will his actual policies help them improve and prosper?

Why bring the 'Racial' ('BLACK-Only') aspect into the question? It's not needed.

Due to oppressive Constitutional and Civil Rights-violating, job-business-destroying Democrat shutdowns, 46+% of ALL Black-owned small businesses, 34+% of ALL Latino-owned, 31+% of ALL Asian-owned small businesses, and 25+% of ALL Women owned small businesses have been destroyed - GONE. Democrats have DEVASTATED MINORITIES and Minority-owned businesses through Socialist/Marxist edict / policies.

In just 10 days, through 16 dictatorial edicts, the most in 10 days by any President in US history, action Biden himself called the actions of a 'Dictator', Biden has put tens of thousands of Americans out of work, has put hundreds of thousands of more workers on notice that thy will lose their jobs / livelihood, and By doing this Biden has jeopardized national security.


6 - 8 months the Democrats have 'reset the board' - they have wiped out all the success, , all the gains, and all the independence minorities have achieved during the Trump administration. During the Trump administration all of Americans experienced the lowest unemployment rate in DECADES, but minorities experienced the lowest unemployment IN US HISTORY. MILLIONS of Americans escaped the 'Democrat Plantations' by getting OFF welfare, unemployment, Food Stamps, etc... They became INdependent, no longer DEpendent on govt programs that helped them just SURVIVE. They have their own businesses, were finally living their dreams. In 6-8 months Democrats destroyed all of it for HALF of all minority-owned business owners in this country through these oppressive Democrat policies which made killing minority businesses as easy as walking into a room and pulling the cord on someone's Life Support. One moment they were alive - Like elderly people in nursing homes in NY - the next minute they have Democrats / Cuomo walking in and giving them a 'death sentence' -- "Your business is closed. Shut your doors." It was THAT EASY for Democrats to destroy half the minority-owned businesses in the country and hamstring the economy.

8 Western States rely on and did get approx. $8 BILLION in oil revenue as part of their economy....and that $8 Billion in revenue, for schools, day cares, health care facilities, etc...is now gone.

Restaurants (Closed Doors)
Hotels (Stay At Home)
Tourism
Businesses
XL Pipeline
- Pipeline Workers
- Pipe Manufacturers
- Impacted Lodging (Hotels, Inns, etc...)
- Food Services, Restaurants, etc...
Fossil Fuel Industry Workers
Border Wall Manufacturers / Employees
Border Wall Workers

Millions of Americans out of work already, and Biden increases the devastation by firing all of these Americans....during a pandemic...with so many businesses now gone and many businesses still alive DESPITE oppressive job-destroying Democrat policies, aren't hiring - they are fighting to keep the employees they have and fighting just to stay open.

All those solar and green energy jobs Harris and Kerry said all these fired workers can get - they don't exist.

Now throw in millions more (on top of the 20+ Million illegals already in the US) illegals being welcomed into the US that out-of-work US workers will have to compete with for jobs.

The self-identified Dictator Joe Biden is holding the pillow over the face of the United States, smothering it to death with his 26 edicts in his 1st 10 days.