DudleySmith
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lol how many have any idea of how much of that rare earth material is even available and enough to make all these batteries that would be in endless demand?
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It's worse than that. The elite are pushing to have everyone live on their block. You won't have anyplace to travel too.
National parks will be for the elite. You peons will have to experience them via TV.
This environmental bullshit has, as it's ultimate goal, the destruction of the middle class, and a return to a two tier world, a very small ruling elite, and a mass of serfs.
Thats true. We did have a black out. Then again, that was 41 years ago in Texas. HL&P called it a "rolling blackout". When/if we have one in Phoenix it will be the first time we've had one.Electric customers in Arizona and across the West could face a higher risk of blackouts and increased energy costs, after a ruling allowing California’s main grid operator to limit some electric power exports to other states, Arizona utilities and regulators say.
- Jul 8, 2021 Updated Aug 15, 2022
The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission recently approved a plan by the California Independent System Operator, or CAISO, to give in-state power transfers priority over some interstate power exports through its system, when demand for power is high and supplies are tight.
The plan to favor in-state power deliveries over some interstate sales was proposed in the wake of a regionwide heat wave last August that prompted CAISO to impose rolling blackouts for two days to stave off a larger system collapse.
Arizona blackout risk, costs could rise with California power-export policy
A ruling allowing California's system operator to limit power exports to other states could crimp emergency supplies, but Tucson Electric says it's prepared.tucson.com
I just came from a meeting of the Trilateral Commision... Mr. Big said it would only be 6 Billion.Hey no problem; all they need to do is kill off 7 billion people or so. But they have to wait until they get a bunch of robots built n stuff first. They got remote control floor sweepers already. lol
I just came from a meeting of the Trilateral Commision... Mr. Big said it would only be 6 Billion.
Could be. They had cheesecake so I had to go. I'm a sucker for an Oreo crust.After you left the meeting they also said you're going to go first.
Sorry mate - you got it all wrong"Follow the science" has been used by the left to defend its Covid policies but it is applicable to this statement by Scientific American...
in their headline story from Ninety Percent of U.S. Cars Must Be Electric by 2050 to Meet Climate Goals
Ninety Percent of U.S. Cars Must Be Electric by 2050 to Meet Climate Goals
But here are two GLARING issues that Scientific American...observed as.... "Its articles, solidly based on scholarly research, well written, and carefully edited, are accompanied by definitions of scientific terms and by illustrations."
This magazine that has been around since 1845 has certainly missed the point with this article and here is why!
1) Scientific American in stating 90% of cars must be electric by 2050... they totally forget TRUCKS!
2) But the MOST egregious error of this prestigious respected magazine is this: where will the 12,461,525,806,512 additional kWh come from if 90.0% of all current cars/trucks are (EVs) by 2050?
Today the total electricity generated by power plants in 2021, is 4,165,030,000,000kWh.
Scientific American didn't follow the science when they state 90% of cars(only by the way) are EVs by 2050 by explaining where the nearly Three times (300%) more
electricity is going to come from?
Today the average current power plant of the 11,070 total power plants in usa Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) generates 376,244,806 kWh per year.
Simple math which Scientific American, Biden, and all the other grossly uniformed advocates of EVs evidently can't do!
So I won't have this issue but my granddaughter's generation will have blackouts on a daily basis.
- Divide the total electricity needed to power the 90% of cars are EVs by the average power plant generation: 11,717,339,760,000 kWh /376,244,806kWh or a total of NEW power plants: 31,143 ! Please check the math folks.
- The average EV gets about .25 kWh per mile. Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
- The Average American drives 14,263 miles/ year thus using 57,052 kWh per driver. https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
- With approximately 205,380,000 Americans driving a total of 2,929,334,940,000 miles using 57,052 kWh each or total kWh needed:11,717,339,760,000 kWh.
- So simple math states if we have 205,380,000 drivers (of the 228,200,000 total American drivers) driving EVs we will need 31,143 more generating plants.
Remember California is requiring that all NEW cars sold in 2035 be EVs.... all the while???
There were 25,281 blackout events in 2019, a 23% increase from 20,598 in 2018
THINK folks... why haven't we heard about this???
"Follow the science" has been used by the left to defend its Covid policies but it is applicable to this statement by Scientific American...
in their headline story from Ninety Percent of U.S. Cars Must Be Electric by 2050 to Meet Climate Goals
Ninety Percent of U.S. Cars Must Be Electric by 2050 to Meet Climate Goals
But here are two GLARING issues that Scientific American...observed as.... "Its articles, solidly based on scholarly research, well written, and carefully edited, are accompanied by definitions of scientific terms and by illustrations."
This magazine that has been around since 1845 has certainly missed the point with this article and here is why!
1) Scientific American in stating 90% of cars must be electric by 2050... they totally forget TRUCKS!
2) But the MOST egregious error of this prestigious respected magazine is this: where will the 12,461,525,806,512 additional kWh come from if 90.0% of all current cars/trucks are (EVs) by 2050?
Today the total electricity generated by power plants in 2021, is 4,165,030,000,000kWh.
Scientific American didn't follow the science when they state 90% of cars(only by the way) are EVs by 2050 by explaining where the nearly Three times (300%) more
electricity is going to come from?
Today the average current power plant of the 11,070 total power plants in usa Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) generates 376,244,806 kWh per year.
Simple math which Scientific American, Biden, and all the other grossly uniformed advocates of EVs evidently can't do!
So I won't have this issue but my granddaughter's generation will have blackouts on a daily basis.
- Divide the total electricity needed to power the 90% of cars are EVs by the average power plant generation: 11,717,339,760,000 kWh /376,244,806kWh or a total of NEW power plants: 31,143 ! Please check the math folks.
- The average EV gets about .25 kWh per mile. Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
- The Average American drives 14,263 miles/ year thus using 57,052 kWh per driver. https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
- With approximately 205,380,000 Americans driving a total of 2,929,334,940,000 miles using 57,052 kWh each or total kWh needed:11,717,339,760,000 kWh.
- So simple math states if we have 205,380,000 drivers (of the 228,200,000 total American drivers) driving EVs we will need 31,143 more generating plants.
Remember California is requiring that all NEW cars sold in 2035 be EVs.... all the while???
There were 25,281 blackout events in 2019, a 23% increase from 20,598 in 2018
THINK folks... why haven't we heard about this???
Well then while you consider me obstructive to CO2 emission reduction by as Biden guarantees to "rid fossil fuels" because of "moving my house",Sorry mate - you got it all wrong
It isn't about having to build 31,143 new power plants - it's about wanting to build 31,143 extra power-plants = $$$$$ trillions.
And all these new power-plants will generate energy exclusively via Solar, Wind and Hydro. Extra $$$$ trillions. So get ready to move your civilization-progress obstructing house out of the way.
Global warming increase is entirely caused by the fossil burning industry, cars and households (you know CO2) - ask any green science expert, he will utterly confirm it to you.
Natural emitting CO2 sources - like volcano's and the oceans are going to be covered with concrete slabs (oh no wait CO2 causer) ah... with, well whatever environmental friendly substance, and being used as slab foundations to construct solar parks and Wind generating parks, onto them - might just save your house from being moved.
The greens being far more advanced then all other scientists, have recognized this already since the 70's and have since successfully dismantled the oil and coal energy driven suppliers, and formost the nuclear enery providers, since the latter are not emitting CO2 they became logically a prime target - and the greens are still going strong in that direction. This also explains some random blackouts - but hey, less CO2 emissions - right?
And e.g. the tires and interior of all these eV cars are going to be replaced with wood and grass-fiber based tires and interiors (enough forests and grasslands still around) and not via burning fossils to get some Goodyear tires or smug synthetic leather seats or dashboards. - again less CO2. Why we still need to wait for these environmental friendly tires and interior fittings - even for our present CO2 emitting cars - I can't really tell you.
Natural occurring CO2 emitters like these ghastly humans will be dealt with swiftly via maybe viruses - the last one didn't work out as expected. All we need is 4 Billion less people. Ukraine and Russia are already essential contributors in that regard - without obtaining the deserved recognition towards reducing CO2.
Anyway the greens and their industrial supporters e.g. Elon are already rubbing their hands in view of our bright human battery and solar future. So let's not obstruct them - but work with them. And let's pray to God, that scientific and economic resources will not be injected into nonsense technology like hydrogen energy - it would rid us of all these Solar, Wind-parks, coal plants and nuclear plants - now we wouldn't want that - right?
BTW - great post off yours. - thanks
Ah... my previous post was actually pure sarcasm in regards to this CO2 hype - and lib's/greens blaming Global warming entirely onto non natural CO2 emissions.Well then while you consider me obstructive to CO2 emission reduction by as Biden guarantees to "rid fossil fuels" because of "moving my house",
but what are you by not helping to reduce CO2 emission by using this:
Carbon capture and storage (CCS) is the process of capturing CO2 that would otherwise be released into the atmosphere from industrial activity, and injecting it into deep geologic formations for safe, secure and permanent storage.
Why destroy the trillions of dollars invested in fossil fuels only to spend trillions replacing fossil fuels?Carbon capture and storage | ExxonMobil
ExxonMobil is one of the world's leaders in carbon capture and storage, one of the critical technologies required to achieve net zero emissions and the climate goals outlined in the Paris Agreement.corporate.exxonmobil.com
Feed additives for cattle, new rice-farming techniques, advanced approaches to oil and gas leak detection, coal methane capture, and modern water and waste facilities can all be effective.
Curbing methane emissions: How five industries can counter a major climate threat
Methane accounts for about one-third of global warming. New McKinsey research shows how five industries can cut emissions with proven technologies and at a reasonable cost.www.mckinsey.com
So why dramatically eliminate fossil fuels that will destroy trillions of dollars in producing fossil fuels and then spend Trillions more trying to eliminate fossil fuel emissions. Future generations like my granddaughter's granddaughter will be totally handicapped by these wasteful expenditures.
"Follow the science" has been used by the left to defend its Covid policies but it is applicable to this statement by Scientific American...
in their headline story from Ninety Percent of U.S. Cars Must Be Electric by 2050 to Meet Climate Goals
Ninety Percent of U.S. Cars Must Be Electric by 2050 to Meet Climate Goals
But here are two GLARING issues that Scientific American...observed as.... "Its articles, solidly based on scholarly research, well written, and carefully edited, are accompanied by definitions of scientific terms and by illustrations."
This magazine that has been around since 1845 has certainly missed the point with this article and here is why!
1) Scientific American in stating 90% of cars must be electric by 2050... they totally forget TRUCKS!
2) But the MOST egregious error of this prestigious respected magazine is this: where will the 12,461,525,806,512 additional kWh come from if 90.0% of all current cars/trucks are (EVs) by 2050?
Today the total electricity generated by power plants in 2021, is 4,165,030,000,000kWh.
Scientific American didn't follow the science when they state 90% of cars(only by the way) are EVs by 2050 by explaining where the nearly Three times (300%) more
electricity is going to come from?
Today the average current power plant of the 11,070 total power plants in usa Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) generates 376,244,806 kWh per year.
Simple math which Scientific American, Biden, and all the other grossly uniformed advocates of EVs evidently can't do!
So I won't have this issue but my granddaughter's generation will have blackouts on a daily basis.
- Divide the total electricity needed to power the 90% of cars are EVs by the average power plant generation: 11,717,339,760,000 kWh /376,244,806kWh or a total of NEW power plants: 31,143 ! Please check the math folks.
- The average EV gets about .25 kWh per mile. Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
- The Average American drives 14,263 miles/ year thus using 57,052 kWh per driver. https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
- With approximately 205,380,000 Americans driving a total of 2,929,334,940,000 miles using 57,052 kWh each or total kWh needed:11,717,339,760,000 kWh.
- So simple math states if we have 205,380,000 drivers (of the 228,200,000 total American drivers) driving EVs we will need 31,143 more generating plants.
Remember California is requiring that all NEW cars sold in 2035 be EVs.... all the while???
There were 25,281 blackout events in 2019, a 23% increase from 20,598 in 2018
THINK folks... why haven't we heard about this???
And suppose that Santa Claus brings every child on earth a toy... I know math isn't your forte, duck, but supposition isn't going to prove your point. In what world do you see the population increasing but the number and type of conveyances reducing? SMFH, is there something in the water on Vancouver Island that promotes idiocy?
Naw, I wouldn't go that far. There are many fine communities on that island from the parliament building and museum to Port Hardy. The duck is just an ignorant commie that does what his CCP/Russian bosses tell him to do.Yes.
Look at those goalposts move!As a collective, American drivers cover 3.2 trillion miles each year,
Mostly, by charging cars at night, and expanding existing plants, and expanding renewable energy.Where will these 2,126 plants come from?
I'm laughing at you so much for several reasons:Look at those goalposts move!
First you were just talking about 90% of passenger cars. Now you've upped it to every single vehicle.
90% of passenger cars is more like 2.0 trillion.
Mostly, by charging cars at night, and expanding existing plants, and expanding renewable energy.
Your failure there is assuming that totally new plants are the only option.
I'm laughing at you so much for several reasons:Look at those goalposts move!
First you were just talking about 90% of passenger cars. Now you've upped it to every single vehicle.
90% of passenger cars is more like 2.0 trillion.
Mostly, by charging cars at night, and expanding existing plants, and expanding renewable energy.
Your failure there is assuming that totally new plants are the only option.
NOT one particle of truth!
FACTS:
228,200,000 Total Drivers Total number of licensed drivers in the U.S. by state | Statista
205,380,000 90% Total drivers of Electric Vehicles (Evs)
miles by EV drivers at ave/year/of 14,263 average miles, an average American drives per year
American drivers per this source>>https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
Total miles by 90% of 228,200,000 drivers averaging 14,263 miles is 2,929,334,940,000 miles.
FACT: NOT 0.35... but 0.25!
2022 Tesla Model 3 RWD: 25 kWh/100 miles Source: Electric truck - Wikipedia
0.25 kWh EV car to go 1 mile. 2nd source: Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
FACT:
miles by EV drivers at ave/year/of 14,263 average miles, an average American drives per year
American drivers per this source: https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
FACT:
228,200,000 Total Drivers Total number of licensed drivers in the U.S. by state | Statista
205,380,000 Total drivers of ElectricVehicles (Evs) at Scientific American's statement of 90%!
Souce: Ninety Percent of U.S. Cars Must Be Electric by 2050 to Meet Climate Goals
FACT: 205,380,000 drivers driving ave 14,263 miles or 2,929,334,940,000 miles X 0.25 kWh/mile or 732,333,735,000 kWh just for cars!
Based on FACT: 4,165,030,000,000 kWh generated per year by 11,070 generating plant or average per plant of 376,244,805 kWh/year.
New plants just for Cars... 1,946 new plants.
So your math is wrong plus you provide NO FACTS.. No links! No substantiation! Why not it is so easy to do a search!!! Follow my links!
AGAIN... the average plant today generates 376,244,805 kWh (That's dividing total US output of 4.165 Trillion kWh by 11,070 plants!
4,165,030,000,000 kWh electricity generated in USA today in 2021 source:
Electricity generation, capacity, and sales in the United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
Why do they leave out other alternatives ?"Follow the science" has been used by the left to defend its Covid policies but it is applicable to this statement by Scientific American...
in their headline story from Ninety Percent of U.S. Cars Must Be Electric by 2050 to Meet Climate Goals
Ninety Percent of U.S. Cars Must Be Electric by 2050 to Meet Climate Goals
But here are two GLARING issues that Scientific American...observed as.... "Its articles, solidly based on scholarly research, well written, and carefully edited, are accompanied by definitions of scientific terms and by illustrations."
This magazine that has been around since 1845 has certainly missed the point with this article and here is why!
1) Scientific American in stating 90% of cars must be electric by 2050... they totally forget TRUCKS!
2) But the MOST egregious error of this prestigious respected magazine is this: where will the 12,461,525,806,512 additional kWh come from if 90.0% of all current cars/trucks are (EVs) by 2050?
Today the total electricity generated by power plants in 2021, is 4,165,030,000,000kWh.
Scientific American didn't follow the science when they state 90% of cars(only by the way) are EVs by 2050 by explaining where the nearly Three times (300%) more
electricity is going to come from?
Today the average current power plant of the 11,070 total power plants in usa Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) generates 376,244,806 kWh per year.
Simple math which Scientific American, Biden, and all the other grossly uniformed advocates of EVs evidently can't do!
So I won't have this issue but my granddaughter's generation will have blackouts on a daily basis.
- Divide the total electricity needed to power the 90% of cars are EVs by the average power plant generation: 11,717,339,760,000 kWh /376,244,806kWh or a total of NEW power plants: 31,143 ! Please check the math folks.
- The average EV gets about .25 kWh per mile. Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
- The Average American drives 14,263 miles/ year thus using 57,052 kWh per driver. https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
- With approximately 205,380,000 Americans driving a total of 2,929,334,940,000 miles using 57,052 kWh each or total kWh needed:11,717,339,760,000 kWh.
- So simple math states if we have 205,380,000 drivers (of the 228,200,000 total American drivers) driving EVs we will need 31,143 more generating plants.
Remember California is requiring that all NEW cars sold in 2035 be EVs.... all the while???
There were 25,281 blackout events in 2019, a 23% increase from 20,598 in 2018
THINK folks... why haven't we heard about this???
PROVE IT!!! Where are your links? I go to the trouble to provide YOU links but you do what people like YOU do... make your OWN subjective unproven statements!Why do they leave out other alternatives ?
Biofuels ( hemp , algae, etc)
Hydrogen
Probably over a dozen patents being kept secret by the fossil fuel industry.....some from Nicola Tesla himself ironically.